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- Oxygen, on 10/12/2007, -9/+41Is it just me? Or has iTunes really become just a bloated shadow of its former self?
What happened to its elegant simplicity? - Phocion55, on 10/12/2007, -14/+45"What makes less sense is that you may not even be able to re-download some music you did pay for. It seems that if files have been modified since the time you downloaded them, you won't be able to download them again. Unfortunately, no-one outside of Apple knows what 'modified' means."
Ahhhh the arguments against crappy DRM'd music are piling up.
Thanks Apple! - Twoodge, on 10/12/2007, -14/+44My input to those arguing about paying for music: why pay a ***** of money for bad-quality, DRMed music giving the record companies (and the RIAA) even more wasted cash and big-headedness? Until artists start using labels which don't take 90% of their green and don't charge so much for the music, I'm not buying any tunes. The big labels and the RIAA are just digging a bigger and bigger hole for themselves and they charge on regardless as they fall into it. Idiots.
So to the artists who launch music on their own labels: good on you, chaps!
(argh, accidently replied instead of a fresh comment. Sorry about that). - TroubleInMind, on 10/12/2007, -29/+57If you buy a CD at Best Buy and you get drunk and lose it, or your roommate's girlfriend steals it, do you get to go back to Best Buy for life and get a free replacement?
- KSUdesigner, on 10/12/2007, -23/+51That's what you get for not backing up your music. Apple even gives you a great big warning screen when you purchase music that says to back up your *****. Losing your files is nobody's fault but your own.
- meltingrobot, on 10/12/2007, -6/+32@TroubleInMind
While we are comparing to a cd... Unlike an iTunes file, I can play my cd bought at Best Buy(or my local preferred indie music store) on any cd player I want with no modification to the cd at all. - TroubleInMind, on 10/12/2007, -9/+27I understand your point but honestly, I'm just sick of all the whinging about the frickin RIAA, people stealing music acting like they're frickin Robin Hood striking a noble blow against the Evil Empire, crybabys who feel wronged because universities are giving up the identities of fileshare whores living in their dorms serving gigs of mp3s, and all the rest. So maybe some of that is finally getting to me.
What I was trying to say is If iTunes is broke or buggy, that's noteworthy. If someone says iTunes is broke because they have unrealistic expectations about how it *should* work, that's whinging. Regardless of the relative cost of replacement, if I buy something, and I lose it or have it stolen, I have no right to expect the vendor to replace it for free. - ProxyContin, on 10/12/2007, -7/+22I just uninstalled iTunes and it told me I had to close Outlook before it could continue? I also have to wash the car, beat the dog and skin a live chicken. Lame. I mean, I enjoy doing all those things, but I don't need iTunes forcing them on me. I feel dirty.
- NYG1988, on 10/12/2007, -11/+25If your computer crashes, or your library gets corrupted/deleted/messed with in any way, you can press a single button "Restore Library" and the Zune Marketplace will re-download all of the songs you bought/downloaded without any questions, and free of charge.
Just a note. - dfndoe, on 10/12/2007, -21/+34@TroubleInMind:
That is a bad comparison, because the relative cost to the retailer is totally different when you are talking about something physical versus an ethereal data stream. I agree that there should be some cost passed to the consumer, but redownloading content which you've already purchased should be possible and should be VERY cheap; perhaps charged by the MB at some fixed rate. - sexycommando, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8The Zune software is actually quite awesome. They need to start supporting podcasts and get a video store going tho.
- Jay211, on 10/12/2007, -4/+11I have been getting multiple artist entries on my Ipod since the update
- nogami, on 10/12/2007, -2/+9Yes, people should back-up their libraries, but yes, ITMS should allow them to re-download whatever has been purchased at a substantially discounted rate (say, $0.02/track or something - just enough to cover bandwidth costs, and maybe restrict to once a year).
I still haven't purchased any DRM'ed music, and articles like this aren't really changing my mind. I'll still buy CDs and rip them myself. - MikeWeller, on 10/12/2007, -7/+14It's funny, I switched from iTunes (on Windows) to Winamp today. I only used iTunes because of the podcasting feature, but it's such a bloated piece of crap that I don't want it on my system anymore. Not to mention the fact it installs Quicktime without asking you - and all the startup crapware associated with it.
I stopped using Winamp years ago after they screwed up version 4, but I am back to loving it again already. It feels lightweight and it's simple enough to use. - Dorian822, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Hey folks, if anyone has had an iTunes crash but hasn't had their iPod updated (to correlate with the crash) then there is still hope for you. There is an application (free) called Sentui (I'm pretty sure that's how you spell it) that will take your iPod library and transfer it over to iTunes for you. It's a great app and saved my ass a few times. Hope it helps others.
- audiowizard, on 10/12/2007, -6/+11There should be an over 21 adult section of Digg, these childish comments are pathetic.
- foolfromhell, on 10/12/2007, -6/+11You have insulted the masses...
"If you want quality and value, don't mess with Apple for anything."
I agree with value, but quality? When you pay $2000 for a MacBookPro, you are paying way too much, but you DO get quality... - pitchpitch, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6That won't help anything.
- sexycommando, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4iTunes forces you to install craptastic Quicktime too. Ugh.
- imjustabill, on 10/12/2007, -6/+10What? No! You confuse me with your pro-zune logic!
- yfph, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5@Troubleinmind
How are you going to retrieve the lost audio data from Apple's lossy, craptastic 128kbps AAC encoding when you burn it to CD? The magic audio fairy? Furthermore, re-ripping and recoding the tune simply removes more audio data, thus introducing more audible artifacts. It boggles the mind that people would pay almost full retail price for lossy encoding. At least one only has to pay $0.29, a fair price, for a lossy tune (high quality LAME VBR) at emusic or try out other services that provide options for downloading lossless encoded tunes. I know I can't speak for everyone here, but emusic offers the latest tunes from many well-known independent artists, such as Yo La Tengo and ArcadeFire (not a fan of), jazz, and classical musicians. Plus, I can play their non-DRMed tracks anywhere I want. Anyways, listening to 128kbps might be fine while running on the treadmill, but it can be an excruciating experience when taking a break from writing a paper. - orp2000, on 10/12/2007, -5/+9Wow, the first thing that occurred to me is that Ars Tech is really going down hill. This article (as well as the last Ars article linked on Digg) is horrible. Written in a sensationalistic way with unsubstantiated conclusions, and an unnecessarily petty and mean-spirited (in an attempt to be hip) title. I thought the standards at Ars were higher than this.
Additionally, try and get this folks, Apple's re-download policy is a favor that they don't have to offer. There can be many reasons for some songs not being able to be re-downloaded, and all of these ingrates who don't back-up should just be pleased as hell that Apple even has a policy like this at all, instead of complaining that they didn't get some small number of songs back. - stealthboy, on 10/12/2007, -3/+7I updated to 7.1 and it's working perfectly. Don't take a few anecdotal data points as representation of the whole.
- Ellsass, on 11/05/2008, -1/+5You can use an iPod and not buy music from or use iTunes, you know.
- fashiontrot, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4When I upgraded to 7.1 and started iTunes my library was also "gone." The music files were still in my Music folder. All I had to do was uninstall the upgraded copy and install the standalone package from apple.com and everything was fine.
- Vtorch, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3"You have insulted the masses...
"If you want quality and value, don't mess with Apple for anything."
I agree with value, but quality? When you pay $2000 for a MacBookPro, you are paying way too much, but you DO get quality..."
What exactly is your definition of "Quality?" I would love to read this.
Just go to Apple's Official Tech Support Forums and read all the complaints and problems people are experiencing with their Macbooks. Go to appleforums.com or appleinsider.com.
The quality isn't that much better than a PC. At least with a PC, a blind person can customize it. LOL...that's coming from a 3 time Apple Laptop customer such as myself. - tdellaringa, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4www.emusic.com
DRMless music. Not gonna find top 40 junk there or the huge acts, but lots of good music there, and cheap. - iceperson, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3"all of these ingrates..."
That's one way to describe your customer... - stealthboy, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5Oh please. The problem with Digg and blogs and the like is that *one* person can have an issue, then post a writeup like "Everyone is having problems like me!" and then all of the sudden you have something blown out of proportion. I did a 10.4.9 update on my PowerBook and it works perfectly. So, to use their logic, all 10.4.9 updates work perfectly for everyone.
- j_bellone, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4There is a big difference between digital media and physical media. Sure. If you lose your CD in a drunken stupor then it is your own god damn fault and you have to go out an purchase another. What's the difference here? Apple has your purchase records. They have to keep them. They know that you bought the song. But there's another kicker.
The RIAA have long since been telling us that we are not buying the song we are buying a license to listen to the song. So, does our license go out the door when we lose the media on our computer? Apple has the records, they know we bought it, so where did our "license" go? That's the difference. We are still licensed to listen to the music if we lose the copy of the music on our computer. Except we are licensed to listen to the music until Apple (or the RIAA) says that we aren't. Which just so happens to be when the files were "modified."
Apple is not innocent in this. Do not make them to look like the good guy. They benefit just as much as the RIAA from selling more music. Steve Jobs might have made the ***** call to get rid of DRM but as soon as that happens it means that immediately people are now able to play the iTunes bought music *without workarounds* natively on devices that support AAC. Apple is definitely *not* for this. Don't kid yourselves. - MacParrot, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4@richlizard,
You mean that still on the front page story (as of Thursday afternoon EST March 15th) with 270 diggs and over 100 comments "disappeared" story? I must have super xray buried digg finding stories powers or something!
Back up your data no matter what it is and when things go wrong (as they will from any computer maker, yes, even Apple) you're covered. Reinstall and enjoy life instead of whining about products you hate and don't use. - Vtorch, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Zune has the capability to better than the iPod. Gosh, it's so obvious isn't it? The promise and the potential is there. It just needs to get over that version 1.0 hump.
- StingerMS, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3@troubleinmind's first post
Did you buy the extended warranty?
:) - MikeWeller, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5It's too late to edit my previous post, but for anyone else that bought a few tunes off iTunes, I used the following program to strip the DRM:
http://hymn-project.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1555
It basically patches iTunes while it's running, plays all your music and outputs it to m4a files. There isn't any recompression so you don't need to worry about losing quality. - TroubleInMind, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5@David
Not really. If the story was that iTunes was destroying music people had purchased, that would be a different matter.
If your CDs on the visor melt in your car one August day, they didn't self destruct. The method you selected to store them was a failure. You can't take them back to Best Buy. I had a hard drive fail on my primary iTunes computer back in iTunes4 days. I put my iPod into disk mode and copied all the files onto my new hard drive, thought I was fine. But iTunes4 refused to recognize the songs I bought from iTunes at that point, wouldn't put them back into the library. I was pissed, but at myself - for not making regular backups of the drive in that PC. When iTunes 5 came out, they rectified that problem, my songs reappeared, and everything was cool again.
I have been very pleased with iTunes as a music library and sync application. If there is a better one, I will be happy to look into it. - kronix2, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4I've only ever known iTunes to be a painfully unresponsive excuse for a media player.
Download an iPod plug-in for Windows Media Player 11, or use Winamp which ships with the necessary plug-in. - combustion8, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3If only people actually researched before they purchased their mp3 players they would know ipod's are far from the best out there.
- TroubleInMind, on 10/12/2007, -16/+18@ Phocion, of course, you know if you want to do that,
- buy an album from iTunes
- make it into a playlist
- burn it to a regular audio CD
- enjoy anywhere, you can even rip that into mp3 if you want
Even with the DRM you can do this five times with any music you buy from iTunes, and unlimited times with any other music you ripped/downloaded.
Here's a blow iTunes does strike for justice. How many times have you felt burned cause you paid $12 or $15 bux for a CD cause you like the single, and found out the rest of the CD is just filler *****? On iTunes, I can buy the single for a buck, thereby thwarting the evil record company. How come nobody ever talks about the BENEFITS of the new metaphor? - prockcore, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Let's put it this way. I can download every Valve game I've registered through Steam. I bought Half Life 1 as a CD many years ago.. I punched the serial into Steam 2 years ago. Today I can download HL1 through Steam, if I want. Don't have to go hunt for the CD or anything.
If Valve can do it, so can Apple. - JoyrexJ9, on 10/12/2007, -8/+10What are you 12 years old?
Oh ***** this Digg and it's an iTunes story you probably are. - tiberone, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2"Actually, we are not Robin hoods - more like exercising what Gandhi did in 1930
...
Let the civil disobedience continue."
Great, now we've got people comparing themselves to Gandhi.
And don't forget,
http://theworstpageintheuniverse.com/images/civil_blackred.jpg - sleepwalkers, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Absolutely agree with you. I was trying to say that in my comment almost right above this, but... well... I got dugg down for it (ah, such is life).
iTunes, especially with 5 and 6 (which came like, two weeks apart [wtf?]), really started to slow down, and now it's such a damn resource hog, I hate that I basically have to use it, considering I'm on a Mac. - cawpin, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2@TroubleInMind - Actually, yes, I think I should be able to go get a free replacement. I'm just following the RIAA's argument here. I didn't purchase a CD, I purchased the right to listen to the music. If I've already paid for that right, why should I have to pony up again?
- fashiontrot, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Senuti - http://www.fadingred.org/senuti/
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4btw
iTunes does let you re-download all purchased content once a year ... you just have to email support
And honestly ... how broke do you have to be to not spend .99 on a song?
get real ... our parent's generation bought all of their music
why can't we? - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1@ mcmalayalam
Apple doesn't make .99 per song ... do some research buddy
the have to pay .65 to the recording industry for rights and usage
add in bandwidth and r&d
also what credit card companies charge for purchasing the songs
Apple makes around .03 or .05 per song
you are making phony numbers
And how are iPods not the best mp3 to buy? Name one that is better ... I dare you
And iTunes lets you redownload once per year .... if you are dumb enough not to much a hard copy of the cd you just bought
oh and if you put the song on your IPOD you can plug it back in and hit restore/transfer purchases
and problem solved
cheap asses - mcmalayalam, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Fine, agreed - they have salaries to pay, electricity bills to pay, servers to run, advertising costs etc. etc. However, AFAIK iTunes has sold 1.3 billion songs since its start. If they get to keep 30% of that, they make $390 million. Say it costs them 10% for upfront and running costs since they started, so that leaves them with $351 million profit. By whatever measure, Apple is making a helluva lot of money here, yet still they treat their customers like criminals and not allow them to re-download their music... they have records of the sale for chrissakes!!! It's simply unfair and unethical to fleece people like that.
- mac4evan, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Have you gone to an apple store or called Apple Care or checked the Apple.com support forums?
Those can be helpful for fixing most issues. - OaklandNative, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I can't even upgrade iTunes until the next version of Quicktime comes out. I get something along the lines of "You cannot upgrade because you already have the newest version of Quicktime." Why the ***** are they bundled together? Not that upgrading iTunes would have done me any good but it's pretty ridiculous.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Muhahah :)
Oh, some DRM related collateral damage? Pity.... -
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