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- krisscofield, on 04/30/2008, -11/+68Pirate Bay?
- LightSpeed4, on 04/30/2008, -11/+61Amazon.com
- FredFredrickson, on 04/30/2008, -0/+34I buy all my music from Amazon now. MP3 file format, no DRM (aside from the "watermark" thing), and a nice selection of tunes that's usually cheaper than iTunes. Love it.
- MurphyMac, on 04/30/2008, -6/+29With millions of iPods sold it's too easy to forget how many iPod users are NOT techies, and it'll take something like NBC leaving iTMS to get them looking elsewhere. Otherwise they'll keep coming back to iTunes. Many of them haven't noticed the DRM and don't care about saving a dime per song.
The lack of movie rentals is a concern. And the 24 hour rental terms. But it looks like NBC will be back, since they haven't found a way to provide video content for the millions of iPod users who want it.
It's hard to explain the reaction of the music industry and Hollywood to iTunes. They can't possibly be that stupid, but their maneuvers resemble panic. - meruru, on 04/30/2008, -8/+23I know what DRM is and frankly I don't care about iTunes' DRM. It hasn't stopped me from doing anything I want with my files (play them on my PC, load them into my Shuffle, and burn them to CDs). Until I actually have a problem with the DRM I will continue to not care about it. iTunes users aren't all idiots
- BurnTees, on 04/30/2008, -0/+13is amazon just not marketing this correctly? most people are completely unaware of amazon's mp3 marketplace
- JupiterSSJ4, on 04/30/2008, -5/+18I use iTunes because nothing else (none of the other 3rd party programs) work as well and are as integrated with my iPod. I have never used iTunes to purchase music but I like its ability to add covers to my music and other organization abilities and it has become my main music program, although even on my fast laptop, 6000 songs makes it run a little slow.
- pseudo.hero, on 04/30/2008, -1/+11I love amazon.com music store. I think in many regards better than iTMS with it's easy to use system. Download and automatically added, no freakin issues with transferring or sharing to other computers.
- Kireblade, on 04/30/2008, -2/+12I prefer low cost non-DRM mp3 stores like AmazonMP3. Whether other people will wise up or not is a different story.
- superkendall, on 04/30/2008, -0/+9Even though Amazon.com has a great store, it's also an example of the value of proximity to sales - the Amazon store has very little in sales compared to iTunes still, not because people do not want DRM free music but simply because it's easier to buy where you are managing your music from - or right on the device itself, now that they have the ITMS on the iPhone/Touch! I have to admit that even I have given up going to the Amazon store for what music I purchase, as I just figure now it'll all be upgraded to iTunes Plus sooner or later...
- zzz@tkz, on 04/30/2008, -5/+14People who actually support the artists that they listen to.
*****. - OrangeCrush, on 04/30/2008, -2/+11Easy as pie. Just release a more stylish and easier to use media player with a relatively reasonably priced music store with a vast and fairly comprehensive selection. It helps if your company already has a reputation for making fashionable gadgets.
- offcenter, on 04/30/2008, -0/+8Stop thinking of the market as "killing" and "breaking" the opponent -- think on the margins. The iTunes store will be here for the foreseeable future -- who will shave points from it is the real question.
- danielsan1701, on 04/30/2008, -0/+7Amazon has a higher bitrate than non-Plus tracks on iTunes.
- tadpoleontheweb, on 04/30/2008, -1/+8So what if you live outside the US?
- turbopro, on 04/30/2008, -4/+11Yes I have an ipod, but I choose to buy my music from amazon. I can put my Amazon music where I want, be it my ipod, or any other MP3 player out there. Itunes is to restricting.
- FredFredrickson, on 04/30/2008, -0/+7Amazon does indeed have a higher bitrate than non-Plus tracks, and they're generally cheaper than non-Plus tracks as well. They use joint-stereo, but from what I've read about the technology, it's not a quality detractor.
- giraffedude, on 04/30/2008, -3/+10I still miss OiNK :(
- astrotrain, on 04/30/2008, -0/+6yes, purchase good drm free music. Amazon and EMusic offer DRM free tunes.
- becknell, on 04/30/2008, -0/+6Same. I've gotten everything from there recently, and I've usually been able to find everything barring one or two obscure albums.
- cadmiumpaint, on 04/30/2008, -2/+8I know all about DRM. I'm pretty tech savy. I still use iTunes. Its easy. I only listen to music via my iPod whether its in my car or at home...so its not really a big deal for me. Its the easiest legal solution that I use.
- ByrcheWroot, on 04/30/2008, -1/+7Likewise. I've started using it as opposed to recently. DRM is for suckers.
- astrotrain, on 04/30/2008, -2/+7Its DRM free... and you OWN it once you pay for it. Unlike iTunes in which your "renting" your music. And you don't have to tell Amazon where and what you will be playing your tunes on. Again unlike Apple you have to tell Jobbs what you will be playing your rented music on.
- astrotrain, on 04/30/2008, -0/+5Amazon's GUI is easy to use, and allows you to quickly preview your choice before buying it. Nothing wrong with it, and it allows you to see how many covers of a song there are along with the original.
- freshgrease, on 04/30/2008, -3/+8So because something is popular, works well enough with the most popular MP3 players (Apple), and has had success for this long....we must break it/find an alternative. Whatever happened to "If it isn't broken, don't fix it."? It may not be perfect, but for Ipods it is king,
- MacParrot, on 04/30/2008, -0/+5Actually you can have up to 5 computers linked to the same iTunes account. Since most people don't have 5 computers, it easy to just activate your new one, import your library, and you're good to go. Then, just deactivate your old one.
It's good news that MSN Music lets you burn your content to a CD and then re-import it DRM-free. Just like iTunes has for years. - MacParrot, on 04/30/2008, -0/+5You can call ***** on it if you want, but that doesn't change the fact that the studios allow Amazon to sell DRM-free and doesn't allow Apple to.
- MacParrot, on 04/30/2008, -0/+5Your comment fails on so many levels
1. Anti-trust and monopoly lawsuits only work if the company involved actively prevents competition.
2. You can burn your own CDs to iTunes, put any MP3/AAC file (other formats as well) that you have received from...well, anywhere.
3. You can purchase content exclusively from Amazon if you wish, Apple has done nothing to prevent competion.
4. The DRM you speak of is there because content providers won't allow Apple to sell their content without it. Again, Apple has no control over what content has DRM.
5. Much of iTunes audio content can be purchased WITHOUT DRM. You can move that content to any player that will play AAC files (which is most of the better ones.
6. Your entire library that doesn't have DRM can be moved to and played on any player that will accept common audio formats. No walled garden.
The only part of the "garden" that isn't open is the iTunes sync capability to the iPod. Since it's Apple's software, they don't have to open it up to any other player if they don't want to. Since they are in the business to make money off hardware and the iPod is a big part of their business, why should they have to open it up to other players? - kidal25, on 04/30/2008, -3/+8When will they get rid of DRM?
- MacParrot, on 04/30/2008, -0/+4When you "quit" iTunes? If you mean quiting the program, that's nonsense. If you mean uninstalling the program and have an iPod, that's just crazy. If you insist on getting rid of the program, then take anything purchased with FairPlay and burn it to a CD. Re-import it to whatever you want to use as your library for whatever player you prefer and you're done.
Let me ask you something, if you have a music subscription and you cancel it, what happens to all those songs? POOF!
Anything purchased without DRM in iTunes will still be there and will play in any player than does AAC. Any DRMed songs, yes you must get rid of the DRM first and if you don't and then cancel your account, then why should I apologize or feel sorry for you when you did something colossally stupid? - dangerdooms, on 04/30/2008, -0/+4Dugg for getting the quote right. All my friends think it's "I will break you..."
- skylarsutton, on 04/30/2008, -7/+11Buried for inaccurate title. BitTorrent still dominates...
- orangefly, on 04/30/2008, -2/+6just good music....i wont waste money on something i'm not sure about....
- eternalsnows, on 04/30/2008, -1/+5Hopefully you're aware that none of the money you pay to Russian download sites goes to the artist(s). If you like giving your money to thieves that's your business, but you might as well just pirate the music yourself and cut out the middleman.
- DJNephilim, on 04/30/2008, -2/+6You fail at facts. If I wanted to, I could buy every song from the iTunes store and then "leave" (iTunes is not a subscription service so I find this term laughable) iTunes and STILL have my music! Holy *****! Wow, i can even burn them to disc! How is Apple EVER going to erase them?!
Knowing about something before you talk about it is a glorious thing. - DJNephilim, on 04/30/2008, -1/+5You fail at facts.
- fowleryo, on 04/30/2008, -0/+4Has anyone compared the amount of music pirated vs. the amount of music downloaded from iTunes... or other online music stores as a whole? I'd be interested to see who comes out on top..
- cadmiumpaint, on 04/30/2008, -0/+4um no. do you not know how iPods and iTunes work?....i don't think you do.
- jbmcb, on 04/30/2008, -1/+5Amazon's GUI is awful. Here's what I see when I search for music using the "MP3 Downloads" search item:
1 - Standard amazon header and search box with logo, bits about logging in, gift certificates, cart, and search box.
2- An advertisement for Pepsi (Not even a contextual ad?)
3 - A bunch of "Related Searches" that have nothing to do with what I'm searching for
4 - Big chunky album graphics on the LEFT SIDE of what I'm interested in looking at - the list of songs I'm looking for. All 24 out of 200. It takes up maybe a fifth of the total screen real estate.
5 - A box asking for feedback
6 - Another advertisement (for cell phones)
7 - A list of help links and ANOTHER search field (Can't have too many search boxes!)
8 - A search history listing with more chunky album art
9 - MORE LINKS to other amazon pages, basically the same that are on the top of the page
Why do I need to see all that crap when I'm just looking for music? On iTunes, I search the music store, and it lists all the stuff I'm looking for on the bottom of the page with details on the top. Short and sweet. It's not the best interface out there but it's much less cluttered than Amazon's.
If you want to see how to do a lean and mean web search interface - see Kayak.com. (I'm not an employee, but a fan.) - imikedaman, on 04/30/2008, -0/+4Yes, yes it is. All you had to do was go to Amazon.com and check.
http://www.amazon.com/Madonna/dp/B000QJP7VW/ref=pd ...
Each song is 89 cents. - davidlow, on 04/30/2008, -1/+4What's a torrent?
- tadpoleontheweb, on 04/30/2008, -0/+3When the record companies say it's okay. But they won't do that till they manage to knock iTunes from the top spot by helping iTunes' competitors and continuing to stab Apple in the back.
- logan074, on 04/30/2008, -0/+3A lot of people know about them but they believe in paying to receive something. I know about stealing gas too, but I don't.
- GhostFreeman, on 04/30/2008, -0/+3When the labels say so.
- superkendall, on 04/30/2008, -1/+4They all laugh at you behind your back due to your 1337 lingo.
Did you ever think if a whole bunch of other people are doing something they may just be onto something? Perhaps you are the "newb", or a stick in the mud... - vypergts, on 04/30/2008, -0/+3I tried mediamonkey and it took FOREVER to load my songs. It's still installed but whenever I use it, my system just hangs (AMD 5600, 4GB DDR-800). I really want to like this program but I hate having to wait around for it to work. Miro for podcasts, however is WAY better than iTunes.
- danielsan1701, on 04/30/2008, -0/+3How is purchasing digital music transcribed on a perishable, breakable plastic disc any better than purchasing digital music transcribed on my hard disk? Especially when buying singles? Don't even try the cover art/booklet argument, either, I can't look at either while driving or at the gym.
- superkendall, on 04/30/2008, -1/+4Done, iTunes Plus. Just waiting for more studios to join in, right now they are punishing Apple and only providing DRM free music on Amazon.
- wacomwacoff, on 04/30/2008, -0/+3iTunes doesn't use DRM in its high-quality files.
- shortyjacobs, on 04/30/2008, -2/+5What does your Cinderella comment have to do with MurphyMac's comment?
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