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- bradford, on 10/12/2007, -2/+27I hear "Multi-Pass" and I think 5th Element.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -5/+22Blame Napster and others who changed "renting" to "subscription" to cloud the fact you are only renting music that you lose the second you cancel the payments.
- drogers, on 10/12/2007, -7/+19Sounds like a subscription to me... Just like a magazine or newspaper subscription, I pay in advance for materials not yet created, and they are delivered to me on a set schedule. Then I get to keep them. When did this definition for 'subscription' get removed from the dictionary and replaced with 'renting DRM'D files'?
- Jugalator, on 10/12/2007, -2/+11Phew, thanks for not making me alone here. :-)
Leeloo: Leeloo Dallas mul-ti-pass.
Korben Dallas: Yeah.
Leeloo: Mul-ti-pass.
Korben Dallas: Yeah, multipass, she knows it's a multipass. Leeloo Dallas. This is my wife.
Leeloo: Mul-ti-pass.
Korben Dallas: We're newlyweds. Just met. You know how it is. We bumped into each other, sparks happen...
Leeloo: Mul-ti-pass.
Korben Dallas: Yes, she knows it's a multipass. Anyway, we're in love. - bparker, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9I couldn't help myself.
LEELOO DALLAS MULTI PASS! - chiller2002, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6"a subscription would mean that you pay a periodic (e.g. monthly) fee to access the service, or at least to download music."
Not true. I can browse magazines at my local Borders and buy them individually at a higher price than if I had a subscription for which I get to keep the magazines afterward. Napster has skewed the word "subscription" into a monthly "membership fee" for access to an online music database. End your membership and you end your access.
But, why is this even important? Arguing diction and definitions when everyone pretty much understands what a Multi-Pass is (and if not they can find out).
LOL @ 5th Element. - Kypt, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5LOL! YES! Thats the first thing that popped into my mind when I read that!
- prockcore, on 10/12/2007, -6/+10I agree. It is a subscription.. it's just not "rentals".
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -6/+10 becuase it's ***** content no one but fringe artsie wankers care about.
- Zukunft, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5The bottom line is that you're getting a helluva deal on TV shows and they get d/led automaticly to your computer.
- Willmonwah, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5It IS a TRUE subscription for a certain number of episodes. Because episodes come out at fixed intervals, your subscription lasts a certain amount of time--just like a magazine subscription. The episodes are delivered automatically in order and you can keep them forever.
iTunes is definition A and Napster is definition B at http://www.answers.com/subscription&r=67 - krewemaynard, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3cripes...cue the endless debate over the definition of subscription. semantics, party of 10,000, your table is ready.
- Rabbethan, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3He's right! It's not a subscription...It's a system when you prepay to subsci....pre-order certain videos which you have subscri....um...DAMMIT!
(can you feel the sarcasm?) - CLIFFosakaJAPAN, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3With a subscription like with a Newspaper or Magazine, you receive them in chronological order with no option to pick and choose which issues you want.
- fluffyturtle, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4Lol I was thinking the same exact thing. It is a shame that humor gets modded down, at least on other sites people give humor more credit.
- CLIFFosakaJAPAN, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3Mutli-Pass is a lot more flexible
- steve693, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Did anyone think they were going subscription? It takes 15 seconds of reading to realize what Multi-Pass is. . .
- softpinkbass, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1holy cow, all i heard was Daily Show and Colbert Report 9.99 for 16 episodes no commercials!!!
sold.
I think it's kinda neat, i mean, you get the latest episodes, video ipod ready. rather than waiting to bittorrent them and then converting them to mp4 format. And frankly, sometimes it's just faster to download stuff from itunes because with bittorrent it really does vary in speed.
either way, there are way too many people who like defining things. - chuckmagnum, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2its just like buying an album that has a lower price than the number of tracks, since youd normally pay 99cents a track as appossed to maybe 9.99 for a cd with 14 tracks.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -3/+3Corbin Dallas Multi-Pass
- nork, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Holy crap! You're right. You've opened my eyes, and I, for one, will stop funding those greedy snake-oil peddlers to encourage their despicable practices.
Actually, what the hell are you talking about? - sabbac, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Think of it as a video podcast, that you pay for.
- truebullfan, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Why would anyone want a subscription based plan? Owning the music is a lot better. Once you cancel your subscription you lose all your songs. How stupid is that.
- astrotrain, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1ah.... iTunes bytes... get a real music store... .Yahoo! or Real Networks... At least they don't have to hack there
product to get it to work with Windows and then turn around and attempt to sell it like Snake Oil to the Windows users. - 500freestyle, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Thats dissappointing, I've been waiting for a subscription option since Napster came out.
- boredzo, on 10/12/2007, -3/+3it's a subscription in the sense of a podcast. but otherwise not.
- pkulak, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Anyone who actually read any of the "erroneous" articles already knew that. How is this news?
- cablemonkey, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1So then which is it you work for? I'd put my money on Real Networks...
last time I checked...you actually get a quality product from iTunes...unlike the fine encoding proc[BUFFERING...]ess you get form Real Networks...haven't played with the Yahoo! music store...so I won't saying thing about that. Sure you have to DeDRM your music from iTunes....but you'd have to do that for music from _any_ online music store...it's not like you'd paid hard earned cash for it or anything...geez...come on you want to own the right to play it forever?!! Build a machine to be the DeDRM'r and go see a concert...then the artists will see the money...
oh...and by a T-shirts or 2 while your at it... ;) - nonchallant0819, on 03/27/2008, -0/+0This is a great story... found this one through http://www.google.com
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http://www.TopNotchCarpentry.com - nonchallant0819, on 03/27/2008, -0/+0This is a great story... found this one through http://www.google.com
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http://www.TopNotchCarpentry.com - galfridus73, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Wait... if you subscribe to something you pay, in advance, for the delivery of the content. The multi-pass is a very traditional subscription - I'm paying $9.99 for a month's worth of new Daily Show episodes, to be delivered to me as they are produced.
Same thing as my subscription to Time or EGM - I pay in advance for a year's worth of new magazines, to be delivered to me as they are produced.
Napster is not a true subscription - you don't get to keep the content after the "subscription" runs out. Napster's model is more akin to a service fee, not a subscription.
I would argue the article should be observing that iTunes is doing subcriptions correctly. No digg and I'm reporting this as inaccurate. - ,,|,_, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1I get the fact that it is different than Napster and Real in that you can keep your files if you don't re-up but... How exactly is this not a subscription?
semantics be damned... - SkippyDoorknob, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Using quotation marks is NOT the correct way to emphasize a word. In fact, using them can change the meaning of the sentence.
- Otto, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1It's more like a pre-order than a subscription.
Subscription implies an ongoing fee, paid on a regular basis.
iTunes multi-pass is a one time fee for content not yet available.
So call it a pre-order, just as if you pre-ordered a game or a movie or a book from Amazon. You pay in advance and they send it to you when they finally have it available to send to you. - rgremill, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1I'm still waiting for a subscription service where I can listen to an unlimited number of audibooks. The first company to pull this off will be worth billions.
- jay42, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1I reported this as inaccurate, because Multi-Pass does not mean iTunes won't roll out a subscription service soon. Yes iTunes has multi-pass but where does it say they won't have a subscription (digital rental) service? Many also thought Apple was surveying peoples opinions on a rental service, trying to gauge the correct price points. I, for one, do believe that Apple will roll out true subscriptions along with their full-length movie content sometime this year.
- Pottersquash, on 10/12/2007, -3/+2So, when iTunes becomes subscription will everyone just pretend that thats how it always was? I love doublethink
- mementh, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1you subscribe to one thing.. not the whole service.. its NOTHING like napster and the others its unique because you get it.. and your not required to keep paying to keep it
- systemghost, on 10/12/2007, -3/+2One can not simply multipass their way into itunes subscription!
- dmron, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1They freakin SHOULD offer a subscription though. Maybe not for video, but they really should do something like Yahoo or Napster and offer unlimited music listening for 5-10/month, I would subscribe in no time. As is, I subscribe to Yahoo's "Music Engine", which I'm quite happy with despite the awful name. Yah, so I dont get to keep any of the music when I stop paying - big deal. It's great for discovering new artists or when there's one song you really want to hear, you can play it instantly without paying anything. If iTunes offered the same thing I would totally dump Yahoo in favor of it, but instead Apple would rather have me give my money to another company. I understand some people have serious problems with "renting" music - fine, just buy it instead, it's not like it would be a required thing, just an option for people who are ok with it like myself. As is, I will never pay to "own" music that is DRM'd.
- AlbedoPiasora, on 10/12/2007, -3/+2But you don't have to cancel it like a subscription... right? You're simply buying a digital gift card that allows you to download a set number of episodes.
- cusoman, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1I kinda figured that...
- RandoFernando, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0It's like a magazine subscription where they send you the lastest episode (issue) when it's available.
- nolesshabitual, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0Napster, itunes video through multipass, and even itunes podcasting are technically subscriptions. You sign up, either with or without (for podcasts) payment and receive an agreed upon amount of content. The difference is itunes grants the user a permanent license where as Napster's license expires unless you pay monthly to renew it. Bottom line this article is better suited for dictionary.com than digg.
- dpotter2, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0Semantics, Damn Semantics and Statistics.
Whatever....
Technically it is a subscription, and if Steve wants to use it to overcome a negotiating point with the studios... Fine. I don't mind purchasing singly, in a "Multi-pass". I might even consider a expiring DRM subscription as long as the other options are also available to me. - Avian00, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1LOL!
- spamdies, on 10/12/2007, -4/+2because its digg and the word apple makes the front page by default
- cusoman, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1How do these get to the front page almost an entire day after it was submitted?
- MrJohnson, on 10/12/2007, -7/+4I think the point is, that it's a hybrid subscription system.
- leobaby, on 10/12/2007, -5/+2I actually enjoyed the music 'rental' / 'subscription' services. I tried the unlimited yahoo music thing and it was nice to have an mp3 player full of new stuff all the time. But alas I no longer have that player and theres nothing like that for the ipod, is there?
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