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- roebeet, on 12/09/2008, -8/+306I also heard that they're going to offer lossless FLAC files, at the same .99 rate. And a free beer with every music purchase, too...
- awolfe91, on 12/09/2008, -8/+185They will have a bunch o cash from me if this is the real deal
- polishdude06, on 12/09/2008, -6/+154PROOF or GTFO
- timusca, on 12/09/2008, -2/+97Why are we digging a source about a source?
- latrosicarius, on 12/09/2008, -7/+87i'm listening in 1600x1200
- unitedkronos, on 12/09/2008, -2/+72Though I know you're being sarcastic, FLAC files from iTunes would be awesome, many smaller music stores already sell music as FLAC and WAV formats.
- AmusedToDeath, on 12/09/2008, -10/+75Psst. Don't tell anyone I told you this, but DRM free music is already here! There's these shiny things they sell at out-of-the-way places like Wal-Mart and Amazon called "Compact Discs". You'll never believe this, but it contains the entire album in a totally lossless unprotected format. I can even move those tracks in any file format I desire onto any device I desire. I can then keep the disc as a backup copy or - get this - SELL the original on Amazon/Ebay/Half.com and recoup most of my investment, making the net cost of the album less than $5 in most cases. The best part? It's totally legal, guilt free and the selection is unlimited (Well unless you're actually shopping at Wal-Mart).
- n8o8, on 12/09/2008, -4/+65*sigh I worked at a recording studio for 3 years.
Resolution is a better term than bitrate because it is more inclusive description of the quality of audio. Having a high bitrate does not by default mean that the audio sounds better. For instance Sony uses a 1bit encoding system for its super audio CD; the sampling rate is what fluctuates, ~2.8 MHz.
Because sampling rate and bitrate are the two most common variables in digital audio, bitrate is not typically used as an all encompassing term for quality. A CD is 16 bit, 44.1 KHz for example, while high fidelity recording often occurs at 24 bit, 192 Khz.
Thank you for the defense pixelate. Digg users that think resolution is a term locked to cameras, I implore you to educate yourselves before you look like asses in the real world when talking to peers that actually know what they are talking about. - apotropaic, on 12/09/2008, -3/+48ignorance is bliss, eh?
- dotorg, on 12/09/2008, -2/+40Dumbass, if you rip it and sell it, those MP3s are now illegal.
- dvsbstrd, on 12/09/2008, -5/+43Unless this means that tracks you've already purchased will be un-drm'd, I'm not interested.
- UselessTrivia, on 12/09/2008, -1/+38FLAC is great for editors. You general don't want to use already-compressed audio or video when editing together something that's going to be compressed again.
Personally I can't tell the difference between a decent 192k MP3 and a lossless audio track. My ears just aren't good enough. I guess to a true audiophile there is a difference, but personally I like carrying my entire music collection around in my pocket which would not fit if it were in FLAC. - kevbryant, on 12/09/2008, -5/+36did anyone read the article? it says at the bottom that the report isn't true.
- n8o8, on 12/09/2008, -11/+38I might go back to using iTunes instead of Amazon if they crank up the resolution also. I do like finding tracks better on iTunes but DRM and mostly poor resolution with the occasional exception of iTunes plus is a deal breaker.
- pixelate, on 12/09/2008, -0/+26Wow, keep digging n8o8 down. So much for Digg's geeky image.
(There's nothing incorrect about describing bit depth as "resolution".) - spectre_25gt, on 12/09/2008, -0/+25I've steered clear of iTunes up till now, but if they get rid of DRM I'm much more likely to buy.
- lidlbishop, on 12/09/2008, -1/+25Nope.
9th today.
Yesterday gone.
10 am Apple's lucky #
Look, I built a pyramid looking thing. - Mysrt, on 12/09/2008, -0/+22had a little too much free beer?
- starf, on 12/09/2008, -0/+22You legally have the right to resell your cd. However, you must delete/destroy all copies.
- aznpwnzor, on 12/09/2008, -2/+23can your audio card handle that?
- jonathangerlach, on 12/09/2008, -5/+25@InorganicMatter
Nice. You should probably read the wiki on FLAC and Lossless Audio unless you're against learning too. - leamanc, on 12/09/2008, -2/+21How is MPEG-4 audio (aac) not a standard? Nearly every software music player and hardware device supports it. Even Zunes and Windows Media Player. MP4/AAC is not an "Apple" standard.
- bryantthesmith, on 12/09/2008, -0/+18Going to Apple lossless might make people angry as their music libraries swell in size. However I believe the kindhearted folks at Apple will help them out by allowing them to buy new iPods with increased capacity.
- gijoe, on 12/09/2008, -1/+16Since when do the French get the inside scoop into what is happening in Cupertino?
- Mutton, on 12/09/2008, -0/+14Dugg for pyramid looking thing and I will continue it.
- randomerratum, on 12/09/2008, -0/+13Now,
It's an
x-mas
tree!!!
Sort of. - inajeep, on 12/09/2008, -0/+13You forgot 2 sources. Digg->gizmodo->appleinsider ->electronlibre (french)
Since I can't read french here is the one off original.
http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/08/12/08/rumo ... - arizonagroove, on 12/09/2008, -0/+13"iTunes Ditching DRM Tomorrow?"
You mean on 10th December? Today being 9th December n all.
"... remove DRM from Sony BMG, Universal and Warner tracks on December 9th,"
Oh! You mean tomorrow from the perspective of it being yesterday! Silly me. - fangorious, on 12/09/2008, -5/+18"Apple still sells relatively low quality audio files and it has a proprietary (.AAC and Quicktime), "
At this point I have to wonder if a statement like this is trolling. AAC is part of the MPEG4 standard, has less restrictive licensing than MP3, and has a more efficient compression algorithm than MP3. So as long as the labels aren't giving crappy encodings of their content to Apple, the tracks on iTunes Pus (the unencrypted ones, at 256 kbps) should be as good or better than what's on Amazon. The only proprietary is the encryption, which is not part of the AAC format. Are you referring to the QuickTime container format (like mkv and avi you can use whatever codec you choose for the content you're putting in the container) of QuickTime the application (you have to use something to play the content, why wouldn't Apple use their own branded player for that)? If you buy the unencrypted iTunes plus, the tracks will play on anything that supports mp4. - rowjimmy, on 12/09/2008, -1/+13holy *****, i end up having to post this whenever there is a story about mp3/aac/flac/ogg/whatever - transcoding (copying music through various lossy formats - eg, ripping the cd to mp3, then burning it back to cd, then ripping to aac, then copying to mp3) completely ***** up quality. it's your own stupidity if you end up doing this, but please for the love of christ don't release the subsequent transcoded files back "into the wild" - don't share them, don't upload them, and don't try to claim that "it's 192kbps" when it's transcoded. if you want to avoid these problems and have the lossless master (eg, a cd) rip to flac and then make copies from the lossless file. if you don't have the lossless master, just keep the file in whatever lossy format you acquired it.
oh, and use ogg vorbis. - brandita, on 12/09/2008, -0/+12Sorry, I'm not going to get excited by a rumor.
- Drax0n, on 12/09/2008, -0/+12Thank you, I did not know that. and I have a feeling 50%+ of digg users did not either.
- bbtweb, on 12/09/2008, -2/+14i think it's about 99% certain they will not. AAC is based on MPEG-4 while mp3 is based on MPEG-2 schemes. AAC was originally designed to replace the mp3 format because it is capable of much better sound quality. AAC is capable of maintaining CD-quality sound. An mp3 cannot do that.
- MacParrot, on 12/09/2008, -2/+13AAC works with any player that uses that codec (which is most of them). Apple doesn't own the AAC format, it's open to anyone. What's messed up car-wise are systems that only play Microsoft proprietary formats (like wma)
- Deluzn, on 12/09/2008, -1/+11It plays on PS3/PSP, plays on iPhones/iPods, plays on WMP, WinAmp, iTunes/QuickTime. May as well be a standard format. If the most popular devices play the format, the rest need to get up to speed or quit now.
- EricZBA, on 12/09/2008, -3/+13Stop promoting this to the front page. It will NOT happen.
- Mokshaguy390, on 12/09/2008, -1/+10Man, I can understand not reading the article, we all do it sometimes. But not even reading the description is just plain lazy.
- leamanc, on 12/09/2008, -2/+11I can tell the difference on most music for 192k MP3. 192k AAC (or 256k MP3), not so much.
- AmusedToDeath, on 12/09/2008, -0/+9I don't understand what you're saying here. If they're audiophiles, then a CD would be a better choice than a much lower quality digital download. And the cost is roughly the same between a CD and a digital album. What do you mean?
- AmusedToDeath, on 12/09/2008, -4/+13Can you show me any example where someone has been prosecuted for said crime? In any case - fine, DON'T sell them, you can still buy the music for about the same price in a completely lossless format AND not be limited to what iTunes has to offer.
- leamanc, on 12/09/2008, -2/+11Why wouldn't it? As the summary states, all indie labels and EMI already allow non-DRM'ed content on iTunes. And for some reason, the rest of the majors have allowed Amazon MP3, et al, to go DRM-free. I think it will happen.
What's not going to happen is having the DRM removed from movies and TV shows. Oh well, this is going to be a huge step in the right direction. - fangorious, on 12/09/2008, -2/+11my car stereo and my phone (motorola) play AAC. So does the BlackBerry curve, the Zune, the Sansa view, ...
- MacParrot, on 12/09/2008, -2/+11As subscription services go, that's not a bad deal. In essense they are allowing you to use about $10 of your roughly $15 subscription service for purching music to keep. So you're really just paying about $5 a month for the all they let you eat (minus whatever content they hold back as it's selling too well) music.
Not a big fan of the Zune or subscription services in general, but this isn't that bad. - drewkinney, on 12/09/2008, -0/+9Why are we commenting on comments on a source about a source.......
- Vegiemaster, on 12/09/2008, -1/+10Ugh. Then stop using Windows Media Player to rip your CDs. Exact Audio Copy is pretty much the standard app now.
- CrushThemTorg, on 12/09/2008, -0/+8Yo dawg. I heard you like sources so we put a source in your source so you can cite while you cite.
- buster99, on 12/09/2008, -0/+8Huh? Didn't know I needed a music policy to download.
- oedenfield, on 12/09/2008, -0/+8what about videos and movies? it would be nice to have DRM-free everything.
- MacParrot, on 12/09/2008, -0/+8Whatever POS player he uses
- jsuther, on 12/09/2008, -0/+8FLAC support would be nice. I currently have to rerip FLAC to Apple lossless to get them on my iPod.
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