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- darvian, on 08/20/2009, -2/+75Does Apple have enough balls to face the MPAA with a DVD import feature?
- PolarBearFire, on 08/20/2009, -7/+65Isn't iTunes already slow and bloated enough on Windows? At least it barely chugs along on my 3.0GHZ with 2GB RAM computer. It's so unresponsive I only use it to sync my iPod and use something else to play my music.
- Paranoidmarvin, on 08/20/2009, -3/+39I sometimes feel like I'm the only person that dislikes Facebook, but my grandmother is on the site, ffs.
Is that not a good enough reason to avoid it? - jerryjamesstone, on 08/19/2009, -1/+32I am really looking forward to the screen management for the iPhone
- maffiou, on 08/20/2009, -5/+32Yeah, ***** that thing... It's an over bloated mess... Also, I really can't stand that it keeps trying to install all therse other stupid apps that I don't want: Safari, Bonjour, Quicktime...
I hate it almost as much as Acrobat reader and it's constant updates... drives me nuts ! - dyranios2, on 08/19/2009, -4/+30You, you're a bookface!
- Daniel591992, on 08/20/2009, -5/+27Well, they don't even have the balls to face AT&T....
- Mightbiteyou, on 08/20/2009, -0/+22wow I always wanted to be able to access facebook on my computer
- BrendanSheehan, on 08/19/2009, -5/+24What's bookface?
- Novellaz, on 08/20/2009, -0/+18Im really looking foward to logging into facebook and seeing a screen full of "now playings"!
- GelfTheElf, on 08/20/2009, -3/+21WinAMP - "It really whips the llama's ass!"
- master69better, on 08/20/2009, -3/+20I think of ITunes as Apple's storefront. Which, unlike the stores in the mall, I have to visit every time I want to do anything with my iPod. Ok, you say just don't buy anything, whats your problem? Here is my problem: 100+ mb install size, +Quicktime, three processes which start
with my system, and automatically dumping my tunes to My Music. And Apple Updater. Notice how I'm not saying anything about DRM, even for non-store purchased content, like Podcast mp3s and how it freezes my computer momentarily everytime I click on it (P IV 2.66/ 1.5 gb).
Facebook integration? Oh sure, tell eveybody what you're listening and what you like so can get groupsourced recommendations and artist/concert info - its been done to death - and last.fm does it in Windows, Linux and Mac with multiple media players.
Am putting up with it for the sake of my gen 1 iTouch - don't how long. I wish you could wirelessly manage your Windows music library via the iTunes app on the iTouch. - inactive, on 08/20/2009, -0/+16DVD import seems unlikely since the court ruled that Real can't do it with it's own proprietary codec.
Then again, this is a rumor. It could also allow hologram projection. - schoate09, on 08/20/2009, -0/+16It should be more than plenty to run a jukebox/music management program.
- TylerDuhrdan, on 08/20/2009, -11/+27Deer Apple,
I don't need facebook integration in iTunes, I don't want Facebook on my iTunes. The only reason I am even using your POS software is for the Phone, because you force me to use iTunes with my phone. Adding Facebook and Twitter, and MySpace to iTunes is only going to make you even more Douchey, so please, dont do it. Music playing software should do that, play music, not share playlist...well whatever that 20 year old at Apple came up with.
I also don't need Blu-ray integration, see I went out and bought a PC Laptop that does support it and have it. I spent 50% than what you charge. Please don't hint at Blu-ray anymore, Steve ***** up big time when he said no the first time, send him in for a brain transplant this time.
Sincerely,
Former Mac Fanboy turned PC guy. - sageerrant, on 08/20/2009, -0/+15Can we please stop the Facebook integration now, please?
I know everyone's on it, but that doesn't mean you have to encourage them. - avizaaj, on 08/19/2009, -1/+13and being able to rip DVDs would be amazing! Seems almost too good to be true...
- FlakeCannon, on 08/20/2009, -1/+13Can we get some FLAC support?
- jaimequin, on 08/20/2009, -0/+11I would rather it have PlayStation3 or Xbox 360 support. You know, the ***** I actually use when listening to music or watch videos.
- EGOvoruhk, on 08/20/2009, -1/+11Well, he's got you there
- digitalpencil, on 08/20/2009, -3/+13the windows ver sucks.. TFIFY
- strictnein, on 08/20/2009, -0/+10"Lady" Gaga
- MOJIRA, on 08/20/2009, -2/+12Too bad iTunes blows in Windows, it works fine in OSX.
- wassim2k, on 08/20/2009, -2/+11How about fixing existing features rather than adding more features that won't work intuitively?
- schoate09, on 08/20/2009, -1/+9Right, there's no reason that computer shouln't be able to play back any audio file instantly. There's also no reason for it to be bloated with an OSXish interface on Windows. Hell, look at things like Foobar2k, which is what, 6mb?
And Facebook integration is just more to be running in the background. More resources chewed up for a gimmick that you'll get tired of (hell, Facebook itself might go the way of Myspace some day, to some new site).
I realize the quicktime frameworks are neccisary for iTunes to function on Windows, but that's further evidence why it sucks, because Quicktime is nothing short of a piece of horse excrement on Windows. - chadsmith729, on 08/20/2009, -1/+9Sorry Apple, I would rather you fix the obvious. Such as no iTunes for Linux, no support for .avi's, and of course being a complete resource hog. Maybe start with the basics before you give us the ability to share my playlist with my facebook friends. Besides I am sure the RIAA would love to know what music everyone has, then go file even more "John Doe" lawsuits to check the large playlists to see if the files are legit.
- jonny01, on 08/20/2009, -1/+9You can already easily do this using any scrobbler like last.fm with itunes and just link the last.fm to your facebook...
- digitalpencil, on 08/20/2009, -2/+10mac ver works fine.. responsive, genius playlists work great, itunes dj with an iPhone is a dream for switching tunes at parties and with coversutra, i barely ever touch the main console anymore when i'm working. don't know what you mean about dual monitor, i've been using it for years with a second display and am now using it on my TV via a mini as well, it works fine..
the windows ver has always sucked (same as QT), it's slow, bloaty and unwieldy but i've never experienced any probs with the mac ver, it works fine. - swmbuk, on 08/20/2009, -1/+8I use it but I think tying it in with iTunes is a bit excessive. For me music's quite personal, but then again no ones making me use the feature, will have to reserve judgement for when it comes out.
- GelfTheElf, on 08/20/2009, -0/+7Wait...
An Apple Article...
With..
"possibly" and/or "likely"
That's got to be a first. - MrJagil, on 08/20/2009, -0/+7Yes... don't how long am putting up with it either.
- ctishman, on 08/20/2009, -0/+7Don't talk about your grandmother that way! *glares*
- missjames, on 08/20/2009, -1/+8i'm starting to despise facebook, too, but it will be ok. calm down. take a breather, then a shot, and go lie down.
- khsheehan, on 08/20/2009, -0/+7Let me help you with that.
- xsecretfiles, on 08/20/2009, -1/+8Awesome! but..I will have to hide my Britney Spears and Lady Gaga Collection dammit.......
- kipmarlowe, on 08/20/2009, -0/+6I think that iTunes for Windows really does suck. It's out of place in the Windows GUI, kind of like what Microsoft did with Office until recently. (I'm a Mac user, btw.) The new MS Office is actually something that iTunes for Mac isn't even. Cocoa. Just like Office used to be, iTunes still is — legacy Carbon. Carbon is the code used for OS9. OS X (Roman numeral 10) is one louder. Though iTunes for Mac doesn't "suck" it's still not quite up to the much more elegant standards of Cocoa apps.
Aside from the natural elegance the Cocoa framework would otherwise inspire, it's also because with iTunes Apple is not going for that famed prioritizing elegance — visually remarkable toolbars/sidebars/drawers/sheets/etc. for all the most used functionality — menus and their configurable shortcut keys for all the rest. It's like they view iTunes users, as a whole, as different from the 5 or 10 percent of us that use Macs for more than just iTunes. I've heard said that any database or collection app necessarily must fall prey to overkill, but what about Bento? It's a powerful everything including the kitchen sink database application and it's truly — elegant.
Would Amarok on the Mac be better than iTunes for Mac? Haven't used it, so I can't say, but I do know one program that would blow iTunes away. iTunes Cocoa.
What is overtly palpable right now is that while the iTunes user is "LOOK"ing at and "FEEL"ing their way through their music collection, it's not Cocoa they're tasting, it's Carbon. (Though Carbon looked great with simple OS9, and for its time. Make that OS7 and earlier.)
Because of the necessary evil of backwards compatibility, Carbon was also used to code the QuickTime media platform, which is utilized in other Carbon apps like the Finder, Safari, and GarageBand. (QT is not just a mere media player; incredibly robust, actually.) So you have these high profile apps that aren't even close to what they could be, and to what the majority of Mac apps have been for years. (These errant Carbon apps are also why some apps' windows act strangely when you click the maximize button. All Cocoa apps correctly maximize to fill the screen, but some Carbon apps only maximize to surround the amount of user space the text, photos, etc. is taking up within the application.)
Thankfully, Apple has been about the only Carbon game in town for years now. Even some of the earliest of Mac apps like QuicKeys and Microsoft Office are Cocoa these days. To be fair, though, the majority of Apple's apps are 100% Cocoa; like Mail, all the iApps besides iTunes, etc. It's just that I'd much rather have Safari, iTunes, and even the Finder be Cocoa. (My wife loves that the Finder and built-in Spotlight is fabulous at negating the whole reason to file at all, but for an old schooler like me I cannot live without Path Finder and ForkLift, two quintessential split-screen Mac apps that actually take the chore out of filing.)
That's why I agree with what Apple is doing with Snow Leopard, lots of code R&R instead of form and function changing and adding. Just make it all Cocoa, then go from there. And that's what they're doing. Users like I care much more about the Finder and QT becoming 100% Cocoa, like they are in Snow Leopard, than we do OS X becoming 100% 64 bit.
Now that Snow Leopard makes OS X completely devoid of anything PPC or OS9, future OS improvements will come at speeds we've never seen from Apple before, so we won't truly appreciate the implications of this extensive rewrite until we see an extraordinarily nimble desktop OS showing up in different forms, like it's already started to, from within the iPhone and probably iTablet, on past to Apple's new half billion square foot cloud computing complex. For such a quiet update, it might turn out to be the most interesting.
Speaking of 64 bits, a couple of days ago some digger commented that Apple is merely where Microsoft was with its Windows XP 64-bit shell. However, a quick google or bing and one will find that Snow Leopard is almost entirely rewritten in 64-bit code, and fully backwards-compatible with 32-bit applications and processors. Not that it matters much, at least not until some big ass apps that use lots and lots of memory start finding their way to joe.user. - Mightbiteyou, on 08/20/2009, -0/+6probably will only work if there is no copy protection (something DVD shrink gets around without you even thinking about it) so you could import home movies or already cracked DVD's. If you have ever tried to use Nero for a DVD copy a similar thing happens.
- Balanced, on 08/20/2009, -0/+6Thanks!
- MacParrot, on 08/20/2009, -1/+7Soooo you bought one MacBook Pro 13-inch that had problems and that makes you a former Apple fanboy? Good thing you gave it two weeks or I might have thought you didn't give it a fair chance!
Buy what you want. If Windows makes you happy congrats but don't pretend that your problems with one Apple laptop equals fail for the whole company. - enjoyvelvet, on 08/20/2009, -9/+15I really ***** hate Facebook.
I hate everyone stating every ***** little thing they are doing
I hate everyone who takes a quiz to tell them what soda they like best, what movie character they look like, etc. etc.
ITS NOT ***** REAL LIFE PEOPLE!!! - belyle, on 08/20/2009, -1/+6How about scrapping iTunes entirely, since it's a decroted piece of crap, and making new software to manage our music libraries and iPods/iPhones. iTunes is bloated with gimmick features like genius, it takes two clicks to activate the buttons if it is unfocused, it has poor UI integration in windows, it's slower than my grandma, etc.
How can Apple make such slick hardware, and a good OS and fail so completely on one application? - raynar, on 08/20/2009, -1/+6So...do a search for "White", and then do it yourself...
And if your music is legal, it wont have those errors. - Paal, on 08/20/2009, -4/+9It's getting bloated in OSX too
- digitalpencil, on 08/20/2009, -0/+5Doesn't matter, the BGR report's are fake: http://www.macrumors.com/2009/08/19/more-purported ...
http://blogs.zdnet.com/Apple/?p=4638 - P5ycHo, on 08/20/2009, -0/+5I'll correct you all: iTunes on windows sucks.
- impedance101, on 08/20/2009, -0/+5Any signs of iTunes support for Linux?
- Phocion55, on 08/20/2009, -0/+5Sweet, now all my friends will know that I secretly listen to ABBA. street_cred--;
- jmb93, on 08/20/2009, -0/+5This is a bookface: http://is.gd/2q7MJ
- master69better, on 08/20/2009, -2/+6Steve Jobs took the 'How much of a douche are you?' quiz and the result is super ultra mega douche. Congratulations Steve!
- Kazbaeden, on 08/20/2009, -2/+6Deer? Seriously? First graders know the difference.
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