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- SPECOPS, on 10/10/2007, -1/+64just rename it back to m4a, and it will work again. (the ones in the itunes/ringtones folder)
- Phisolo, on 10/10/2007, -1/+32confirmed! just tried this w/ 7.4.1 and it worked. In your iTunes music folder is a new ringtones folder. Rename the files back to .m4a and you are off to the races.
- dagamer34, on 10/10/2007, -0/+27Expect 7.4.2 sometime tonight.
- mrfreeziexp, on 10/10/2007, -3/+26Yes, good thing you let us know this important information.
- Hawaiianteg, on 10/10/2007, -11/+32When is people going to realize that charging for ringtones is not apples deal?? Its the damn record companies wanting to charge for a different product technically. They feel that ringtones are a different license all together so you need to be charged for it. However apple did state we only pay 99 cents for it and and we get to make it ourselves unlike the 99% of the other ringtone services who make it for us and charge us $2. It sucks but it is not apples fault for charging us, its the stupid record labels.
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -8/+29Well, the point is you shouldn't really have to do this. Apple sucks by not giving customers choice.
- smackhero, on 10/10/2007, -2/+19that's retarded. preventing people from turning _their own_ mp3's into _their own_ ring tones in iTunes IS apple's deal. if the record labels want to charge extra for ring tones in the iTMS they can do so. that doesn't prevent users from turning any file in their mp3 collection into a ring tone. apple is the one who's crippling their software to screw over their users. as konformitee said, the record labels don't own exclusive rights to this process, nor do they have the right to prevent me from converting an mp3 i own the copyright to into a ring tone if i'd like.
maybe if fanboy retards like you didn't try to justify every shady move apple/sony/microsoft makes against their users, and actually stood up for their rights as users/consumers, these companies would rethink their more questionable policies and treat their users & customers with more respect. but clearly you'd rather bend over backwards to try to legitimize their blatant greed and exploitation of consumers. - iiGizmo, on 10/10/2007, -2/+16Engadget had a article on it there they say to just rename the m4r file back to m4a. Here is the link to it http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2007/09/08/itunes-7-4-1-ringtones-re-rename-workaround-discovered/
- kingkilr, on 10/10/2007, -2/+15I think the problem is apple is trying to get things from the Labels for iTMS and even though they probably don't have a problem with people using their own ringtones, they might be using it as a bargaining chip with the labels.
- superkendall, on 10/10/2007, -1/+9So to summarize, it's even easier than it was before...
- Frozo, on 10/10/2007, -1/+8Youre only fighting the inevitable. How long will you wait to upgrade? You know you will sooner or later.
- Typhoon2009, on 10/10/2007, -1/+8Yes, iTunes 7.4 is a debacle. Most frustrating is the lack of proper Vista x64 support. Doesn't even need to be 64-bit, just make it as solid as Firefox.
That being said, iTunes' interface is by far my favorite out of various media players. Great idea, good implementation, bad 'extras' (e.g. this stupid ringtone thing, I already own the song I'm damn more than welcome to make a tone out of it) - AvidPreatorian, on 10/10/2007, -4/+11just use iFuntastic 3.0.3. you can rearrange your home screen. add ANY and as MANY ringtones as you like. not to mention NES emulator for mario action.
it's so easy, a caveman could do it. - evereddie, on 10/10/2007, -1/+7I think ring-tones should cost around $50. Then maybe no one would have to worry about this annoying crap. Really. I think that would be a fair price. After all, when your phone rings, and your are in a place with dozens and dozens of people, and they all get to hear your ring-tone (which is a song) for free, that is just not fair to the record company and artist. Why shouldn't someone pay for all of the people who enjoyed the free song. Think about it.
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -3/+9You thought apple would give you more choice insteading of locking you down? how silly.
- manitoba98xp, on 10/10/2007, -2/+7One thing to note is that it's somewhat bloated on Windows, but on OS X it isn't. That's just what happens when Apple tries to share a lot of code between platforms...they have to port unnecessary OS X APIs.
- meatmcguffin, on 10/10/2007, -5/+10"iTunes is evil...locked-in and proprietary"
Locked in and proprietary? It imports CDs as AAC or MP3, neither of which are owned by Apple. Fair enough, you can't play protected AAC files on any other player but by the same token, other vendor's protected formats will not play on iTunes. If i want to change from iTunes to Windows Media Player I lose my protected AAC songs and if i do the opposite I lose my Janus protected songs; there's no difference.
If you're talking about locking iPods to iTunes then there are alternatives like ephPod as Apple hasn't changed the file structure and library system of iPods to prevent then since the gen ones came out, i don't think they care as it beings them more customers and if they were bothered they would have changed it by now.
I really fail to see the lock-in here. - ffleming, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5At least the battery can be removed.
- Frozo, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4That is true, but this is entirely different. I want to use the music I bought to create my own ring tones. Not pay EXTRA for them.
- axcess99, on 10/10/2007, -0/+31) go to iTunes Preferences -> Advanced -> Importing and change encoding to AAC
2) select desired song(s) in library, chose menu Advanced -> "Convert Selection to AAC"
3) no step 3...
(though the song editing is a separate matter) - inactive, on 10/10/2007, -2/+5Buried as inaccurate. There's already another work-around.
- MaxwellTD, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3www.oldversion.com
- Konstantino, on 10/10/2007, -1/+4Grammar failure: cannot compute.
- meatmcguffin, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3Same with quicktime and same with safari. Bonjour seems OK though :P
- regeya, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3Evil, evil users, wanting to create their own ringtones! We must SQUASH the evil HACKERS!!!
Oh, please.
Once again, Apple is its own worst enemy. - meatmcguffin, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3Blind love? Check my posting history, while most of it is positive there's a *lot* of comments about things Apple could improve on. Don't think i'm supporting paying twice for the same song, it's ridiculous, you're just blaming the wrong party. Just because i don't agree with the OP's logic doesn't mean i don't believe in logic in general.
Anyway there are three reasons. One, they make ***** all from songs, only a few percent, so i suspect they're making ***** all from ring tones. It exists purely as a way of selling more iPods, in fact in it's early days the press weren't actually sure if Apple were making any kind of profit until the volume picked up.
Two, look at all the negative press generated and the amount of people who will scoff at a phone where you have to pay stupidly for ringtones. You think Apple really want these people to have a bad opinion of the iPhone.
Apple lose absolutely no money by letting you make your own ringtones. In fact they might actually sell more iPhones and more songs to turn into ringtones if this was true.
Any counter arguments or are you too busy blindly hating Apple? - qwerter, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3Ringtones are free advertising for the record companies' songs. They should pay the *users*, instead of the other way around. Heck, they're usually annoying advertisements at that...
- agilesloth, on 10/10/2007, -2/+5Is there anyway I can update itunes without having to download the whole damned program again? It's just something that's always bothered me about iTunes. They change a few things, then I have to download another relatively large file. Usually I wouldn't care but I'm only allowed so much bandwidth each day, and if I got over I get nothing for 24 hours.
- mld021000, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2There's already a workaround for this see: http://joemaller.com/2007/09/08/make-custom-iphone-ringtones-work-with-itunes-741/
- carpespasm, on 10/10/2007, -2/+4it's not "just a clone". the layout and functionality is very similar, but it's because it works. Apple did get that right, but it's not the Songbird creator's fault that apple won't permit anything but iTunes to use their music store, play their music files, and coverflow is mostly just eye candy.
- mld021000, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2iTunes can convert any MP3s into AAC (.m4a) which are used for ringtones so you should be able to convert. You should probably edit down the song to 30 secods to make it appropriate as a ringtone. You'll have to use GarageBand/QuickTime Pro or a similar app to do that.
- gildude, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2absolutely right on. About 8 years ago, I had a old cell phone that could record ring tones through the mic. I stuck it next to the computer speakers and played a star trek clip ("Captain, incoming message" - arguably fair use as I was spoofing star trek, right). Anyway, it was the stupid phone companies that told the cell phone makers to remove this type of feature because they wanted to charge $2.00 for stupid ring tones.
The best thing about that is I NEVER had to look at my phone to see if it was mine ringing in a crowded place. It's funny in some meetings to see 3 people look at their phones when one rings. That was never me as mine was unique. - darkNiGHTS, on 10/10/2007, -1/+3Silly you.
- AvidPreatorian, on 10/10/2007, -4/+6you're an idiot. but thanks for the opinion.
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -1/+3Then why do people give so much flack to sony or MS for taking care of "business"? Apple Fans for the most part are double standard douche bags.
- meatmcguffin, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2"drop the overpriced iphone to 400 bucks because they can't sell any."
Pull any more facts out of your ass? Financial reports say that Apple sold close to a million units. They also managed to outsell every other smartphone in the last month and that's without the price drop. - fkr3, on 10/10/2007, -4/+6The problem is Apple wants your money and they are insatiable. You don't have to make up silly justifications it's just the way business works.
- SharkyTech, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2I use Audacity, its free and multi-platform.
- davesawyer, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Why do folks keep updating iTunes if they know it's going to break their ringtones? Can you not sync your iPhone with 7.4.0?
More importantly, do people really use ringtones anymore? - bfineman, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2Sorry, but I have to agree with Hawaiian. Apple has consistently been pushing the envelope when it comes to less restrictive digital rights management on music, and it's the record companies that have consistently been pushing back. Why not include the ability to easily make ringtones from your own existing MP3s? Because then it would be trivial to make "pirated" ringtones from your thousands of existing "pirated" tracks.
I whole heartedly agree that we should angry about and fight against restrictive DRM, but make sure you're directing your anger to the right place - if it were up to the RIAA/MPAA then only DRM'd (purchased) music and movies would be allowed on the iPod/iPhone. Be glad that Apple has the guts to not allow this to happen, and to make baby steps in the right direction. - MrSilverblood, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1I know, what was I thinking? lol Oh well, I guess I'm just an optimist at heart.
- davesawyer, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1I say leave it on vibrate and don't bother everyone around you with the latest top 40 hit.
- crackintosh, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2then freezes and has to have the battery removed.
- teethman, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1From the music stores you can access with it.
- gfnw, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1"do people really use ringtones anymore?"
Well people generally like to know when someone is calling them... - smackhero, on 10/10/2007, -2/+3so what are they getting from the labels by ripping off their customers and making them pay an extra dollar to "convert" ring tones that they ought to easily (and legally) be able to convert for free? who are you trying to convince with your pathetic attempt to justify blatant corporate greed and their exploitation of users/customers?
- gildude, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1you should care regardless of the bandwidth cap. Its ludicrous that some companies can't ever figure out how to PATCH and instead must rip and replace the whole thing. Apple is far from the only culprit here - there are lots out there that have no clue how to package software appropriately so that it can just be patched.
- misterdiggles, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1and stuff
- strax, on 10/10/2007, -2/+3It's not iTunes/apple's fault. If you remember, originally iTunes allowed you to share your library across the internet with other iTunes users, the record lables threatened to pull the plug unless they got rid of the sharing functionality.
- fascfoo, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1I use audacity. Super easy, quick, and free!
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