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- rwallen, on 10/11/2007, -3/+79I think it is silly you can't use your own songs for free as ringtones. I know that companies make a lot of money off these microtransactions which are popping up everywhere now (Want to vote for your favorite American Idol? $.99 each text message.) but it seems that soon everything will be like this. Do you want to digg this comment up or down? It will cost you $.35.
- dep01, on 10/11/2007, -13/+77So those apple ***** want to charge you a buck to turn a song you already bought into a 30 second ringtone?? LAME.
- longofest, on 10/11/2007, -1/+29Some new info that we got... from the story:
When a song is selected for conversion, a "garageband like" interface comes up to allow you to pic the 30 second clip you want. Forum member FreeState also noticed that Apple's Question/Answer list now shows an image of iTunes with 8 tabs (vs 6 in the video). One of these tabs could represent Ringtones. - Irfit, on 10/11/2007, -8/+35Apple, you are doing it wrong >
- glucoseboy, on 10/11/2007, -0/+22This $0.99 conversion charge illustrates the inherent disconnect between the music industry and it's customers. I've already paid for the song. However, they're telling me that even though I've paid for it, I've only actually purchased the "rights" to play the song on my music player. To play it on my phone, I have to pay again, purchase another license. When does this madness stop????
Hey folks, stop paying for ring tones!!!!
Doing so just reinforces the music industry's antiquated license-based revenue model. If they had their way, the iPod would have a counter that recorded everytime you play a song and send that information back to the publishers so they could bill us per play (wait a second..... it already does........ ) - SonicRush, on 10/11/2007, -1/+22An extra buck to shorten a song you already bought and make it a ringtone?!? That's absolutely rediculous.
- colincornaby, on 10/11/2007, -3/+19It's likely you will only have to pay 99 cents to convert an iTunes Song to a ringtone. Songs bought from the iTunes Store are specifically not licensed to be used as ringtones, so Apple has to pay more money to the record labels for a song to be used as a ringtone, hence the 99 cent fee.
- PunkFenixJT, on 10/11/2007, -7/+21$.99 for ringtones is not bad when you consider things in the big picture.
For example, here's sprint:
http://www.deandagati.com/sprdl.jpg
Cingular's ringtones are $2.49 as well. I don't know about verizon because I need a verizon account to check apparently. - insomniac8400, on 10/11/2007, -10/+24Lol you have to pay twice for your music. LOL
- PhiKapChappy, on 10/11/2007, -0/+12Maybe everyone could just stop using music ringtones altogether. Nothing worse than having someone's musical tastes shoved down your throat while at the grocery store. Ooo you have "This is why I'm hot"! +20 hipster points!
- logicalnoise, on 10/11/2007, -4/+15you forget that many cellphones can simply just playback mp3s/wavs/midi from their stored memory. Something an iphone could easily do but obviously apple decided it was worth a buck to check a damn checkbox.
- zeiben, on 10/11/2007, -1/+11Think of high ringtone prices as a special tax on the garish and tasteless.
- f4nt0m4s, on 10/11/2007, -10/+18.99 cents to convert your song into a ringtone?
I'm sorry, but with as much internal memory as the iPhone has that is total crap. A lot of the 2+ year old cellphones can store full songs that can be used as ringtones with the proper tools...and it can all be done for free. I have full songs encoded at 192kbps that I put on my LG enV...for free...that I use as my ringtones.
and apple is only adding injury to the insult...i mean isn't itunes supposed to be like the end all music app?
the iphone is all smoke and mirrors - SonicRush, on 10/11/2007, -3/+10$.99 for a ringtone is terrible when you consider you already friggin purchased the song!
- GotMex, on 10/11/2007, -2/+9principle
- DIGGerPhelpsND, on 10/11/2007, -0/+7So, why would one want to pay $0.99 for a service that Garage Band already does for free? I have made all of my ringtones from song clips in Garage Band without forking over an extra penny.
- heifetz, on 10/11/2007, -1/+8How much are you willing to get that at least part of the decision is dictated by AT&T, and it's a shared revenue model. What dumbass MBA grad came up with the plan to charge .99 cents to convert a song into a ringtone? That'll cause Apple to lose respect pretty quickly in the online community, and maybe even the apple fanboys. Just wait until a hacker creates a workaround and allow you to convert it for free.
- convergent, on 10/11/2007, -0/+6I use iTunes to make my ringtones, I just go into the info and change the start time and end time to the part i want (of course i change it back later), right click the song and press convert to AAC. Perfect quality on my Sanyo mm8300.
- chrisgeleven, on 10/11/2007, -0/+6Apple's terms of service specifically say that you cannot use a purchased iTunes song as a ringtone (its probably from the contract they have with the record label). I imagine that is the reason they won't let you set your own ringtones without a fee.
That's what happens when you have your own music store. - imdandman, on 10/11/2007, -0/+5Maybe iTunes 7.3 will finally have support for hotkeys.
- iSamurai, on 10/11/2007, -0/+5Because you're not going to be able to put your own ringtones on there, no MP3 ringtones, etc.
- PathDaemon, on 10/11/2007, -0/+5TFA implies that turning something from your iTunes library in a ringtone, purchased or not, is 99ยข. Not that MacRumors is an all-knowing source, but a charge for a procedure that happens locally would be ridiculous. I do that for my current phone with freeware.
- thatgirlismine, on 10/11/2007, -0/+5I think the real question at this point is whether Apple does any tricky checksumming on the ringtones in the phone. If not, it should be a small matter of someone writing a small utility to load audio files into the phone's ringtone directory.
- NicksVideo, on 10/11/2007, -0/+5That's just one of the many numbers used for iPhone demos. The 'screen shot' is from the Macworld keynote, if you bothered to read the article.
- Avian00, on 10/11/2007, -0/+5I have to PAY $.99 to make my song shorter?!?! That's ABSURD! It's almost as absurd as people paying $2 or more for ringtones from their provider! Stop giving these greedy people your money!
- thejokell, on 10/11/2007, -1/+5Work? It takes all of 15 seconds to cut up an mp3 file.
Ringtones haven't been "hard" to make since phones only took midi files, and even then they were only hard if you didn't know what midi was. - inactive, on 10/11/2007, -1/+5Lol, you have to pay once for music? LOL!
- liuping, on 10/11/2007, -1/+5It does not say you have to pay for anything but iTunes download converted to ringtones...
- LoudNoise, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4...and the RIAA and others still wonder why there's so much piracy? Is it possible for the people running things to be that blind?
- abid786, on 10/11/2007, -1/+5So, in the end, it boils down to the RIAA being greedy.
- Protoss, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4I agree, "net yet" is a perfect answer, and makes total sense.
- HalBSure, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4I just saved $.35!
- HalBSure, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4It wasn't school that I hated, it was the principal of it.
- flipmeat, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4I bet a donut that the next Garageband will have a 'save as ringtone' feature. If you make a little tune yourself, no rights issues apply.
(I am a silver medalist in the conclusion jump.) - f4nt0m4s, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3@Beaver6813
it's more the principle that you pay .99 cents for the full song...and then .99 cents to get 30 seconds of it. it's a 4/8gig device...why have 2 copies of the song or whatever when you can have the full copy and use it as your ring tone? when my phone rings i don't hear the full song, i get around 40 seconds of it. but I'm not paying twice over for something i already have. and i can listen to the full song at my leisure.
and my second guess is that you will only be able to convert *songs purchased on itunes* into ring tones...we shall see how that plays out, but if you are forced to buy the song on itunes to validate that it wasn't stolen, and then forced to pay another .99 cents to take a 30 second clip of it...well have fun making ringtones! - wbxhc, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3All I have to say is Google ToneThis if you don't want to pay
- wildsnake, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3Why is it a plus? Websites use flash. People can't use Stickam. I have a security webcam that uses flash, I can't view it over the internet.
- raynar, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3You let your phone ring for 40 seconds? Why? So people can hear your crappy taste in music? If you want that go signup on myspace
- goodoldharris, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3Yes, it's absurd. You've already bought the song, and it's already on your phone, so it's just a matter of setting the song to play when you recieve a call. It's probably not Apple, but the labels. Essentially, the labels are insisting on charging you a fee to set your phone preferences. These ***** would debit your bank account when you hummed a tune if they could. ***** them and don't pay for it.
- seek205, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3Well.. you don't know yet.. Maybe you can, we haven't used iTunes 7.3 yet. Maybe you can export it to Quicktime or something...
- GarySZ, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3Or support for multiple genres? Or a tagging system a la iPhoto? Or maybe the ability to select individual tracks from within CoverFlow? Or maybe some other feature that is actually useful?
- furmanvt, on 10/11/2007, -1/+4YEAH RIGHT. So why cant i use songs which i rip from my CDs as ringtones. Oh it's b/c Apple wants you to BUY it from them!!
- liuping, on 10/11/2007, -10/+13It's not Apples fault. the iTune rights don't cover ringtones. bitch to the music companies...
I'd be surprised if you could not convert ripped CD to ringtones though... - inactive, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3An easy way to make your own ringtones is by using www.mobile17.com
Just indicate what part of the song you would like converted. The mp3 is converted and a text message is sent to your phone. You must then retrieve the file from the web (it converts a several MB song into 150 kb)... quality is really good, too. - inactive, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2On my free lg handset it just sends the ringtone to me via MMS.
oh wait! - f4nt0m4s, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2@ngmcs8203
a lot of it depends on your carrier and phone and firmware, but i have found that making custom ring tones is a rewarding experience once you get past the initial few. sure, you'll spend a little time learning how to get it set up, but fact of the matter is a lot of the premade ring tone choices out there suck. it's nice to be able to take whatever indie or non mainstream song you have and make a ring tone out of it. the itunes 7.3 ring tone feature might alleviate that problem, but at the expense of 2 dollars? it's just an added cost on top of the price of an already really expensive phone that has a lot of flaws thus far. - sfrench, on 10/11/2007, -2/+4Forgive me, but isn't the big picture here is that Apple is calling the device as "our best ipod ever"... I think those were Steve's words.
And I don't know about you, but I expect my iPod to be able to play my music...no matter if it's through a headphone or over the external speaker as a ring tone.
I understand it's all licensing issues, but it's still a huge leap to say that you can play a song over the earphones, but not over the speaker as a ringtone. - ChzPlz, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2Not that this is a cutting edge phone, but my blackberry 7250 only plays midi ringtones.
- InitialDMP5, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2yeah, I have done this for years. You can even adjust the quality of the MP3 to work with your phone. Sometimes the mp3 won't play if its too high quality. I'm glad other people know about this. I tell people at the Cingular store about this and they are completely amazed. They don't believe me and so I would bring my laptop in and show them. They weren't too happy this was possible and that I was not using their Media NET serivce. SUCKERS.
- jostheller, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2Have they announced yet if 7.3 will fix the "feature" of using x64 Vista's "eject hardware" button to turn your ipod into a brick? Just curious...
And FTR - Vista is for wife only... I run Fedora -
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