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- mattus, on 10/11/2007, -13/+213I was more annoyed by the fact that it started some stupid "AppleMobile.exe" process that steals 12MB of RAM to manage a phone that I'm never gonna buy.
- lemmingscanfly, on 10/11/2007, -8/+130Oh yes digging this will put so much pressure on Apple to fix it that they'll have to come to work on a sunday...
- CBTF, on 10/11/2007, -29/+75Apple: It just works.
Bwahaha. - kilodelta, on 10/11/2007, -7/+49"iTunes cannot save library issue (unknown error -50)"
hey, thats one of those weird cryptic error messages the Mac kid says i'm not supposed to get. - haylcron, on 10/11/2007, -2/+37I hate the idea of digging to "bring pressure" on a company. Do you really think Digg has that kind of pull?
"There's something wrong with iTunes 7.3"
"Who cares?"
"But sir, they're digging it to the front page"
"Dear God..."
I love Digg, and I think information like this is great to pass awareness to other consumers, but trust me, calls to the support line and forum posts (at their site) will do a lot more good. - memoBug, on 10/11/2007, -1/+33I can't even reply to that Apple forum thread because I get a "Sorry, an error occurred" message.
But you may be able to patch the problem: Rolling back to iTunes 7.2 has worked for some, but you'll likely need to uninstall itunes first.
Vista> http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=305409
XP> http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=93698
and then find a copy of 7.2
http://filehippo.com/download_itunes/?2736
Backup your stuff first! - jeremymccurdy, on 10/11/2007, -6/+38You know there's something fundamentally wrong with a program when it requires a guide to uninstall.
- IWorkAtApple, on 10/11/2007, -36/+63Oh for God's sake. Two things:
1) It only takes ~600k on my machine. Not sure why yours takes 12MB.
2) WHO THE HELL CARES ABOUT MEMORY USE?? You *are* running an operating system with a virtual memory system, yes ? I don't know if you're running on a Mac (definitely *does* have a capable VM system) or on a Windows variant (which, frankly, I'd be *amazed* if it didn't have a capable VM system!).
So, it allocates 12MB of RAM - the instant you want to use that RAM, it will swap out the (in your case unused) process to disk, and you'll never see or hear from it again. For 12MB, that swap operation will take a few milliseconds, and consume a few entries in the VM page table. That's the extent of the impact on your machine. Oh noes. We don't live in the era of trying to eke out the last possible few k in the 640k memory space any more... - jasonslay, on 10/11/2007, -3/+29I can see all of their pagers going off...
- dliberty, on 10/11/2007, -13/+37With all due respect to Apple, they make great gadgets but their software sucks. Damn it, just let me transfer things to my device however I want to, I don't want the ***** iTunes, that piece of crap software is like an operating system and looks like *****. Oh, and I don't want QuickTime on my computer. Why can't I have an ipod or iphone without quicktime??
- kheldorin, on 10/11/2007, -1/+19Wow, that screwed up attitude is why so many programs are so bloated nowadays. It shouldn't be taking so much memory when it's not doing anything in the first place. And being a service it is highly unlikely that it would get swapped out. Most likely some other application would get sacrificed instead. And if you're multi-tasking, it will lead to more page faults and swapping to disk. And since swapping also causes the HDD to spin up, battery life would be affected as well.
- mcmlxxii, on 10/11/2007, -11/+28"Please Digg this up to put pressure on Apple to fix this problem."
Oops massive schadenfreude attack, I seem to have dugg it down instead. - bouche, on 10/11/2007, -18/+34please bury this submission as soon as possible and put pressure on people to stop asking for diggs. i'd love to slap anyone that says "please digg this" but the internet doesn't allow for me to do so.
- IWorkAtApple, on 10/11/2007, -2/+17Do this:
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=93313
... it will fix it. It's a permissions bug... - anonym41414, on 10/11/2007, -1/+16You mean their iPhones.
- kelchm, on 10/11/2007, -2/+16The sorting in iTunes 7.3 is totaly screwed. Apparently numbers now come after letters.
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -10/+24"Please Digg this up to put pressure on Apple to fix this problem."
Yeah, because Apple reads Digg to determine their priorities.
Buried because you're a digg whore. - enki25, on 10/11/2007, -0/+13I had to delete and recreate my itunes library, clearing all my playcounts. Pretty cheesy, Apple! But I guess it just serves me right for reflexively downloading itunes updates.
- djhworld, on 10/11/2007, -0/+13It's an unnecessary process though.
Putting RAM usage aside; why does it need to be run? Apple should have implemented a routine to activate the service if an iPhone is present, not leave it running all the time.
It's the same with the "iPodService.exe" runtime, totally unnecessary should the user not have an iPod. - designbydave, on 10/11/2007, -17/+29wow, go figure, another iTunes release that uses yet MORE system resources and has yet MORE buggs. ***** you apple.
- ccrowe1990, on 10/11/2007, -0/+11When you uninstall itunes 7.3, you can export your library to a location. After doing so, install 7.2 and import that library (that you saved) into 7.2 and all of your information should be safe.
- bpapa, on 10/11/2007, -3/+13LOL, I know. "Digg this to pressure Apple." Apple's going to fix it quickly anyway silly, they don't care about the Digg army and their "pressure."
- DaMacGamer, on 10/11/2007, -0/+9It may just be the people using it.
- enki25, on 10/11/2007, -3/+1112MB? I see that process but it's only at 640k...
- GonzoLiga, on 10/11/2007, -1/+9The iPhone allows you to slap people across the Internet. Saw it in an ad with snappy piano music in the bg.
- aaronm67, on 10/11/2007, -0/+8No. That's iTunes for you.
- totorototoro, on 10/11/2007, -3/+11At least they fixed that annoying Coverflow bug for MacBooks/other Intel950 graphics machines.
- Bossman1086, on 11/08/2007, -0/+7I've got two instances of the mobile crap running on my computer now. One's 12 MB and one's 2.5 MB. They're called "AppleMobileDeviceHelper.exe" and AppleMobileDeviceService.exe" respectively. Pretty damn retarded...and yes, I told it not to sync iPhones or Apple TVs. By the way, it has yet another process running...look for it. "distnoted.exe"
- pmart56, on 10/11/2007, -2/+9Why do people think that this is only relevant to people with an iPhone? iTunes 7.3 came out b/c of the phone, but anyone with iTunes got a message that said an update was available.
- kenvsryu, on 10/11/2007, -4/+10I agree apple users are...
- burnttoast11, on 10/11/2007, -3/+9Wow, I didn't know that all of my games are based on QuickTime. Cool!
- CBTF, on 10/11/2007, -4/+10"The difference between Microsoft products and Apple products is that Apple's customers have a reasonable expectation that "it just works""
And that's mistake #1.They never had exploding laptop batteries (I don't care who made them) and quicktime, itunes and safari are exceptionally written windows programs. I've seen many a friend be confronted with a lemon of an ipod as well.
And no- every time MS screws up you can know it's going to be on the front page of digg. Even if it's FUD. - kendawg, on 10/11/2007, -0/+6umm....apple should make the uninstaller work. just like symantec and all the other companies that leave crap on your computer. it's not windows fault that these companies don't want to get rid of everything when we click the UNINSTALL button.
- Schroder3000, on 10/11/2007, -0/+5I'm more annoyed that artists that begin with numbers are pushed all the way to the bottom and the list begins with A, which, if you know anything about alphabetizing, it always begins with numbers! Why was this changed after all these updates?!
Apple has spent 2007 sacrificing function for flash. Sucks to your iPhone. - mjsteinbaugh, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4Huh? The problem posted here isn't regarding the iPhone, it's regarding iTunes.
- Bamborzled, on 10/11/2007, -2/+6Virtual memory = hard drive space. Hard drive speed < RAM speed. iTunes' RAM hogging = takes up all my physical RAM and pushes everything else to virtual memory.
Therefore, everything else = slow. - boltoflightning, on 10/11/2007, -2/+6On the Mac it worked for me to drag iTunes 7.3 out of the applications folder and put 7.2 from a backup there. With iTunes 7.2 everythings works like it did beforeā¦
- grooveska, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4I got rid of the message by deleting all of my podcasts (got a screenshot before deleting) and closing itunes. Then I restarted itunes and resubscribed to my podcasts and haven't seen that message since.
- slayerab, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4Apparently Jobs reads digg
- decile, on 10/11/2007, -3/+7Since I don't have an iPhone I didn't see the need to update. I'm glad I didn't.
Apple should offer a light version of iTunes. - ShibbySandwich, on 10/11/2007, -4/+8Ok i see your point. At least we can both agree on one thing. You suck. More than apple AND microsoft.
- cynic573, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4This was by far the most annoying thing in the update. Brackets and parentheses are ignored in sorting, too!
WTF are they thinking? - NerveBand, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4The second that Amarok becomes cross-platform, I'm switching. The only reason I used iTunes is because its avaliable on PC and Mac.
- jwdav, on 10/11/2007, -4/+8Not everyone wants to manually manage songs, photo's, notes. to-do's etc. - iTunes lets you enable automatic updating for songs or turn it off. If you turn it off, you can manually drag songs around. Most people prefer to build and sync playlists and have their calendars just automatically sync.
Quicktime is necessary to use iDevices, because iDevices are built around Quicktime. Kind of like how Microsoft uses their proprietary media software on the Zune.
It's not realistic to expect Apple to build products using Microsoft technology, any more than you'd expect Microsoft to use Apple technology in their products.
It is a shame that Windows doesn't have anything like launchd, but that's a whole other conversation. - ngageguy, on 10/11/2007, -4/+8only uses 636k on my laptop with itunes running, less than that on bootup.
- juzzle, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3I have Windows XP and this was my [successful] experience:
1. Copy iTunes XML and ITL files* to desktop
2. Uninstall iTunes 7.3
3. Download iTunes 7.2 (say File Hippo)
4. Install iTunes 7.2
5. Copy iTunes XML and ITL files* to desktop
* note that becuase iTunes 7.3 cannot save to the library these files reflect your iTunes 7.2 library
Done! - No problems
Notice how I didn't rattle on about Apple's negligence in rolling out a product without having tested it first ... or did I? ;-) - wookiekiller, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3Thank God I'm not alone. I thought there was something wrong with my computer til I saw this.
- yannickmartin, on 10/11/2007, -1/+4Strange that my iTunes 7.3 works fine. But I dugg anyway to help everyone :)
- cartman005, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3When is the last time there was an iTunes update without any major bugs? Do they test it at all anymore?
- FedEyes, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3This is what I did and it fixed me up!!!
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