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- freakyterrorist, on 10/14/2007, -17/+51Great!
Now apple will learn not to cripple perfectly good devices to make more profits!- ZicklePop, on 10/19/2007, -10/+26Apple hasn't learned anything by this, they will brick your iPod touch now.
- sleepwalkers, on 10/14/2007, -1/+2At least Apple basically gave them all of the advance warning anyone could've asked for... Even if some people still went ahead and updated and got upset when their phone didn't work right.
Hopefully these people who like cracking their devices will have learned to *not update their hacked devices until the hackers say it works properly*.
- sleepwalkers, on 10/14/2007, -1/+2At least Apple basically gave them all of the advance warning anyone could've asked for... Even if some people still went ahead and updated and got upset when their phone didn't work right.
- RevMark, on 10/11/2007, -17/+2Well that makes since. Limit your customer base to make more profits. . . Creating an open phone would create more profits, not limiting them.
The lock, I am sure, was required by ATT. Just as I am sure that the recent 1.1.1 was rewured by ATT.- lar3ry, on 10/12/2007, -1/+21How does ATT affect the iPod Touch? It's not a phone, dammit!
- bkemper, on 10/11/2007, -1/+8Apple may have agreed in their contract with AT&T not to include phone OR e-mail OR SMS/Chat capabilities in any other small mobile device that could possibly compete with the iPhone itself for those uses.
- 80hd, on 10/11/2007, -3/+3AT&T does affect the touch.
Every iPhone equals monthly income to Apple from AT&T.
Every Touch represents a hardware sale that won't have predictable contractual income. (companies LOVE recurring revenue streams)
Apple is creating enough disincentive by crippling the touch to grab people that are just below affording the iPhone.
- lar3ry, on 10/12/2007, -1/+21How does ATT affect the iPod Touch? It's not a phone, dammit!
- kingkilr, on 10/11/2007, -1/+7The thing is, this forces Apple to either allow this, or provide something really compelling in the next patch, no one will upgrade to 1.1.2 just because it breaks their hackage, the reason anyone bother to hack 1.1.1 after 1.0.2 was because they wanted the stuff in 1.1.
- fkr3, on 10/11/2007, -1/+7No it doesn't. It doesn't force Apple to do anything at all.
They will break it all and lock it down further on the next update because the reality is the few people bent on hacking iPhones / Touch's simply don't affect the marketshare at all. Consumers will buy them whether they can have mail and whatever else on it or not.- sleepwalkers, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1But if Apple is giving the same warning about possibly breaking/bricking hacked handsets, it should be easy to avoid the breaking or locking down.
- 80hd, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3I'm totally hyped about the touch now that free maps and mail are not a fantasy
- aduzik, on 10/11/2007, -2/+10Considering that the jailbreak was achieved by exploiting a security flaw in the TIFF image library, Apple does have a compelling reason to close that hole in the next update. It's a security risk. That's reason enough for me to update.
- Angostura, on 10/11/2007, -1/+3Yup, I'd like to have my Touch running new apps, but not at the expense of letting anyone in the world own it through a dodgy TIFF
- Gustomucho, on 10/15/2007, -0/+6Security risk? How many people get their Ipod hacked by outside people? The tiff file is 1 part of the Jailbreak, it takes 74 steps to do it. If anyone manage to do it all while you Ipod is in your pocket I would be rather suprised.
- fkr3, on 10/11/2007, -1/+7No it doesn't. It doesn't force Apple to do anything at all.
- SouthsideIrish, on 10/11/2007, -6/+6I don't think Apple ever had a major problem with apptap. I think they had a major problem with unlocked phones, last time I check the Touch did not have a phone. Oh, and Apple did not brick any unlocked phones. The person dumb enough to do the update bricked there phones. Blame them.
- lickmygiggle, on 10/11/2007, -0/+5There are plenty of reports of locked, never been hacked iphones being bricked by the 1.1.1 update.
- deadbaby, on 10/11/2007, -6/+4They won't learn because Apple is a publicly held company with a legal obligation to share holders to make money.
- BradMW, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1This is true in every industry. Products are never "optimal" so you will buy the next one. It sucks and companies are pieces of ***** for doing it. It's infuriating to think this takes place in pharma as well. Have you ever bought a laptop? Was it exactly what you wanted? Chances are the answer is no. Desktops are more open though since consumers can build their own and get exactly what they want. Hopefully Apple will learn that if people aren't given what they want, they will simply take it.
- KuNgFuAzN, on 10/11/2007, -1/+1THIS IS AMERICA. Welcome to capitalism! Apple is a company for the shareholders. Thats all it is.
So if go to Cuba if you don't agree.
- ZicklePop, on 10/19/2007, -10/+26Apple hasn't learned anything by this, they will brick your iPod touch now.
- ronnsprocket, on 10/24/2007, -4/+107why are they locking an mp3 player? it doesnt come with a contract. aside from the obvious physical differences, how is this any different than selling a computer?
i want a touch because i just sit at work all day beside a computer networked to my home computer... more than 16gb isnt really important to me. however, playing NES in the bathroom has to be 10x better than jamco bowling.- Chewie67, on 10/12/2007, -6/+3It may have to do with the contracts with the record labels.
It might be so that people don't screw up their iPod and call Apple for support (increased support costs)
It might be so that Steve doesn't have to see Ubuntu running on his iPod.- bkemper, on 10/12/2007, -0/+15I might also be so that Apple can sell you every app that goes onto the touch, via the iTunes Store.
- thatsmyaibo, on 10/11/2007, -5/+1Apple has always supported opensource apps for OS X. I highly doubt these will be sold.
- bkemper, on 10/12/2007, -0/+15I might also be so that Apple can sell you every app that goes onto the touch, via the iTunes Store.
- 80hd, on 10/12/2007, -0/+14Apple wants the touch locked down because if both products have the same apps, why would you want to but an iPhone? They want you to pay a monthly fee to AT&T that they get a share of.
- SuchADigger, on 10/11/2007, -0/+0This is especially true if someone hacks a VOIP client for the iPod Touch. Then there's even less of a reason to lock into an AT&T contract. That, I think, is also the real reason Apple doesn't provide an SDK for native apps.
- appleswitch, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Does 80hd know it can make calls?...
- AvidPreatorian, on 10/11/2007, -1/+1Because the third party apps, SOME, can cause crashes and bricks with new updates. Apple doesn't want to pay for potential software crises.
- Angostura, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6Not if there was a proper SDK released.
- pak314, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Apps should not case bricking of the ipod if they are using a full operating system like OSX.
- xoineg, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1i don't even want to speculate what you are doing while you are playing NES, but dude WASH THOSE HANDS BEFORE TOUCHING THE iPod Touch
- riyehn, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2At least he's not playing Solitaire.
- popothebright, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7I'll tell you why:
Because Apple, which used to be a pretty cool company, has sadly learned too many lessons from Microsoft, Sony and the Music Industry. They don't make open platforms. They're increasingly proprietary at every turn.
Anyone who still thinks Apple is a cute little company hasn't been paying attention. They're hardasses like the rest of them now.
And Google is right behind them... - AlanOrozco, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2You know, since the 2G Nanos, all the iPods have been blocked. They've had an encrypted firmware that disables the hability to install iPodLinux or Rockbox or whatever. This isn't news.
- Chewie67, on 10/12/2007, -6/+3It may have to do with the contracts with the record labels.
- maina231, on 11/08/2007, -47/+5apple turning out to be the next microsoft, making bloatwares, and ***** sofwares. There iPhone sucks so does the iPod touch
- aaeyers, on 11/08/2007, -5/+43In 2 sentences, you have managed to achieve 5 grammatical errors. Congratulations, please do not post again.
- sparkrainfir, on 11/08/2007, -3/+1amazing.
- brstilson, on 11/08/2007, -4/+35There *have* to be more than five.
First Sentence:
1. Started with a lowercase letter
2. Apple is a proper noun but started with a lowercase letter
3. Microsoft is also a proper noun but also started with a lowercase letter
4. "bloatwares" is not a word. The plural of bloatware is bloatware
5. "softwares" also not a word. The plural of software is software
6. "softwares" is also misspelled, dropping the "t"
7. The statement doesn't even qualify as a sentence
8. Usage of "*****" makes no sense whatsoever
Second Sentence:
1. Improper use of "There." Correct form is "They're" or "They are"
2. No comma or "and" between "sucks" and "so"
3. No period at the end
So that's 11 errors, actually- missingnoh4x, on 10/11/2007, -0/+11Second sentence: Their.
- brstilson, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9You're right. *****.
- rossnyc, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3pwnd
- Trax91, on 10/11/2007, -0/+7Grammatically owned.
- zugzug, on 11/08/2007, -2/+1STFU. I can't believe you actually spent the time listing each error. If you don't have anything valuable to post just go back to talking to your imaginary girlfriend or whatever you do to pass the day.
- brstilson, on 11/08/2007, -1/+2Time? Ha! I spent no more time finding the errors than I did typing them. Seriously, it took me almost no time. The five minutes of my life it took were worth it.
- missingnoh4x, on 10/11/2007, -0/+11Second sentence: Their.
- lar3ry, on 11/08/2007, -0/+5Actually, the word was possessive in the second sentence, so it should be "Their," you grammar Nazi!
- brstilson, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Yes, I know. I failed.
- aaeyers, on 11/08/2007, -5/+43In 2 sentences, you have managed to achieve 5 grammatical errors. Congratulations, please do not post again.
- hunchback, on 11/08/2007, -4/+43for a moment there I thought the title meant Apple did this, not so, this is a third party hack. Apple should do this themselves goddammit!
- getsaf, on 11/08/2007, -13/+8Has anyone ever stopped to think that maybe Apple doesn't want people writing programs for the iPhone/iPod Touch yet because they have not "hardened" the API yet? I mean c'mon people, Apple knows what all us geeks want, but right now, they can change whatever they want with the API and not have to deal with iPhone SDK issues. My money says that within the next six months they will have some sort of SDK ready. It just makes sense that they want their products to be real-world tested, tweaked and tuned, before locking the new system(s) into an SDK they will have to support for years to come.
- MinorLemming, on 10/11/2007, -0/+9No, I haven't stopped to do that, because I don't believe an SDK is coming. With the iPod, they allowed very specific developers access to an SDK and then sold their products through ITMS. Why would they do any different with the new version of the iPod?
- BradMW, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2They did it to make money. The end. No farther speculation required.
- schotty, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1So what? That hasnt been the real reason any computer company has actually been like this. Its the contracts and greed that cause this. MS changes DX constantly to make WINE more of a coin toss, Apple is Apple. Linux is a moving target. Fanboys make excuses, long time users recall the games that Apple, Commodore, and Atari pulled years ago, which reek of similarity.
- RadicalEdward, on 11/08/2007, -9/+3Official SDK or not, there's still no windows love on the hacking side. :-(
Win32 iPHUC FTW! (until i get a MBP, then win32 ftl)- HUKI365, on 11/08/2007, -2/+2You can still run Win32 on MBP...
- twoboxen, on 11/08/2007, -14/+86I'm tired of people defending all of Apple's actions like they're always looking out for the consumer priority 1. Keep in mind this company deliberately (bug, my ace) disabled calendar functionality, kept ipod prices high when the internal cost dropped 30+%, and dropped the iphone price $200 in 2-3 months (which sounds nice until you wonder why it started off so high).
I enjoy my mac and all, but geez people, they're a corporation in the same lines as Google, Yahoo, Dell, and *GASP* Microsoft. Just wipe the shock off of your faces and accept that they, too, will screw you.- 80hd, on 10/11/2007, -1/+4Apple is just keeping these apps out of reach to get you into a more pricey iPhone (though they're failing at it)
- neckaros, on 10/11/2007, -6/+1It start that high because apple was not sure of its success and had to try the most to break-even investment cost.
- twoboxen, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3"apple was not sure of its success" HAHHAHA, yeah right. People had been drooling over the iPhone since BEFORE january and BEFORE they even knew what it offered. Not buying it for a second.
- gcnaddict, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1neckaros is in denial. His Stevie would *never* screw him over.
- adude, on 10/11/2007, -3/+3It's true -- they are a profit-maximizing corporation... but that doesn't stop them from making beautiful, tasteful products that people can enjoy EVEN IF it's locked (which I hate too btw). Google makes fun stuff, Yahoo ... err... well... there's Pipes?... even Microsoft's Surface & XBox are creative... my point is: despite it being a corporation and despite it doing unbelievably stupid and "bad" things like locking, they still make great products, so that's why I would "defend" Apple's actions to SOME extent.
- rickcarson, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Do you realise that in the same sentence you are accusing Apple of having prices too high, and too low.
THE SAME SENTENCE
Apple fans may be living in a reality distortion field, but they aren't the only ones! - umbrellainabin, on 07/16/2008, -0/+1iScrewed
damn you sound pissed dude
- maina231, on 10/11/2007, -11/+2actually i was on the hurry have many diggs to cover. Sorry for the spelling mistakes. ;)
- HonoredMule, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4Try slowing down and doing less better. The rest of the world will somehow have to deal with the shortage of maina231 comments.
- MacParrot, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2What is this "hurry" and why are you on it?
- sparkrainfir, on 10/11/2007, -1/+11i understand why they don't want 3rd party apps on the iPhone... keeping your phone secure is super important. however, the iPod touch should have been open from day one, especially since you won't have access to wifi all the time to get to the safari apps...
- TejInLA, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2The touch is a stripped down iphone. If it can be hacked, then the iphone can be as well.
- Tobark, on 11/09/2007, -6/+131"Maps screenshot after the break."
Whoever started this and "after the jump" should be bludgeoned to death with an OLPC.- meatbot, on 10/11/2007, -1/+1Agreed. It reminds me of TV back in the '90's when every other word was, "AMAZING!"
Hopefully it will fade away like most things - liquidhalcyon, on 10/11/2007, -0/+12Nice use of OLPC in a comment. +5 Digg-geek pts.
- Orng, on 10/11/2007, -4/+2Of course you know that "after the break" is for people reading the first part of the post on the main page, to tell readers what they're going to get if they click through to the full article. Kinda like "full story at 11" or "exclusive photos on page 23". Lets people know there's more than just the paragraph on the main page of the site. I've seen it used at least as far back as 2001 on certain political blogs, where contributors were given a word limit for the portion of the article that appeared on the main page, but the bulk of the article could be as long as it needed. With new posts streaming through at the rate of twenty or thirty a day, the reader needed some incentive to click through; and thus "after the break" "beyond the jump" "barnyard photos of senator X over the jump" to tempt you to pick this article over those other ones with better writing.
I find it useful. - demodawid, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4The "after the jump" saves space on RSS readers.
- superkendall, on 10/11/2007, -2/+1I too despise "after the jump" and permutations thereof. Glad to see someone else feels the same way.
- optikalblitz, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3Its especially annoying that you can already see what's going on "after the break" when you're scrolling down to see what else there is.
Is "the break" supposed to be all the ads sprawled across the article?- demodawid, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1When you are on a blog's main page, you see all the posts at the same time, and they are cut off. You click on the "after the break" link to see the full thing. You've NEVER visited a blog?
- optikalblitz, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Yeah, makes sense, but why leave it in there when i'm reading the whole post though? I was referring to that phrase being used in the full post.
- demodawid, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1When you are on a blog's main page, you see all the posts at the same time, and they are cut off. You click on the "after the break" link to see the full thing. You've NEVER visited a blog?
- gmarsch, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2Don't touch that dial! We'll be right back, after these short words from our sponsors...
- vader101, on 10/11/2007, -0/+0Why? All of the above to be sure, but let's not forget that it doubles the ad-clicks. Looks like everyone likes to squeeze money, not just Apple.
- meatbot, on 10/11/2007, -1/+1Agreed. It reminds me of TV back in the '90's when every other word was, "AMAZING!"
- spate, on 10/14/2007, -0/+4Isn't there a Belkin accessory for taking notes with iPods? Wonder if someone'll be able to get some VoIP action going on these things now..
- nape, on 10/11/2007, -3/+2aren't people worrying needlessly about apple "bricking" the touch? when the iphone upgraded to 1.1.1, the only bricked ones were the ones that were unlocked, the ones with just 3rd party apps had some of those apps quit working, right?
- TejInLA, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1There were (at least allegedly) non-hacked, non-unlocked phones that were bricked as well.
- thesledman, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1I remember hearing about these "allegedly" bricked non hacked iPhones. You would have thought these would be all over the network news if it were true. With that said I also recall apple replacing these alleged bricked legit phones with no argument.
- RadicalEdward, on 10/11/2007, -2/+14TUTORIAL FOR WINDOWS http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?p=43088 ...
- aegis9975, on 10/11/2007, -0/+5Thanxs. But 74 steps; holy f*ck that's long and complicated.
- bobbothegrayson, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4Is it just me, or is that far too complicated?
- Trax91, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Hoping for a point-and-touch version like AnySim.
- Trax91, on 10/11/2007, -4/+1Hoping for a point-and-touch version like AnySim.
- TheMightyFruit, on 10/11/2007, -3/+0Epic!
- MioTheGreat, on 10/11/2007, -6/+5Spectacular.
Call me when they get 802.1x working on it....- 80hd, on 10/12/2007, -5/+2What? last I checked the touch has a 802.11b/g radio in it
- duzytata, on 10/11/2007, -1/+4I wanted to connect to my wireless network at school and couldn't. I found this on the web.
"Currently, the Apple iPhone and iPod Touch do not support WPA with 802.1x, a requirement for "osuwireless" connectivity. Users are prompted only for a password when selecting "WPA" as their encryption type, which indicates that the device is only capable of WPA-PSK, not WPA-Enterprise.
In order for the iPhone or iPod Touch to be compatible with the OSU wireless network, an update would need to be made available from Apple with 802.1x support."- 80hd, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1nevermind. I thought he meant he wanted some sort of wifi. Not specifically wifi w/ authentication..
- duzytata, on 10/11/2007, -1/+4I wanted to connect to my wireless network at school and couldn't. I found this on the web.
- MioTheGreat, on 10/11/2007, -1/+7Why on earth are you digging me down?
I really want to get an iPod Touch, but I won't be able to use it at school, because it doesn't support WPA 802.1x w/ PEAP.
I'm sure a lot of people at college/work have the exact same issue.- TejInLA, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3I think it's because you didn't mention the WPA portion.
- MioTheGreat, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3What, exactly, do you think 802.1x is? When used in context of a wireless device, it means a wireless authentication scheme used with WPA. With a wired device, it means auth. over ethernet.
You people aren't as tech savvy as you should be....
- MioTheGreat, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3What, exactly, do you think 802.1x is? When used in context of a wireless device, it means a wireless authentication scheme used with WPA. With a wired device, it means auth. over ethernet.
- TejInLA, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3I think it's because you didn't mention the WPA portion.
- dagamer34, on 10/11/2007, -1/+1Yeah, OSX on the iPhone/iPod Touch doesn't support VPN which sucks for people in corporate/college environments. The only place you actually see login pages is where you have to pay for it. Free but secure WiFi uses further encryption methods.
- DoubleWah, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3The iPhone at least does support VPN. Also, many colleges have a web-based front end that allows you to log on to the network without using VPN. (Although I guess this won't be universal.)
- xile, on 10/15/2007, -0/+1The VPN client is on both the iPhone and the iPod touch. MobileMailSettings.bundle contains the configuration utility for VPN, so once Mail.app is on the iPod touch it too will support VPN (I've done it with mine). This pertains to only PPTP and L2TP VPN.
- DoubleWah, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3The iPhone at least does support VPN. Also, many colleges have a web-based front end that allows you to log on to the network without using VPN. (Although I guess this won't be universal.)
- 80hd, on 10/12/2007, -5/+2What? last I checked the touch has a 802.11b/g radio in it
- pizza, on 10/12/2007, -3/+13There's a possibility that the Touch & iPhone are actually running Leopard. If this is true, the SDK may not be available till after Leopard is available later this month.
- optikalblitz, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Any sources to back up this supposition? That would be an interesting turn of events.
- drlha, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5uname -a on an iPhone reports a kernel version of 9.x (sorry I forget exactly which). Current Tiger kernel is 8.10.1 (on an Intel Mac), so the iPhone certainly looks like its running a Leopard Kernel.
- optikalblitz, on 10/16/2007, -1/+1well thats exciting.
- drlha, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5uname -a on an iPhone reports a kernel version of 9.x (sorry I forget exactly which). Current Tiger kernel is 8.10.1 (on an Intel Mac), so the iPhone certainly looks like its running a Leopard Kernel.
- optikalblitz, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Any sources to back up this supposition? That would be an interesting turn of events.
- missingnoh4x, on 10/11/2007, -2/+10Now add Flash and Java, and crack it to run all the Game Boy and NES roms I play on my 5th gen iPod, and I might consider getting one.
- xandifenn, on 10/11/2007, -5/+4Seeqpod Hooks Up iPod Touch and iPhone Owners with Monster Music Library
Submitted by Chauncey Dupree on Sun, 10/07/2007 - 10:34.
http://seeqpod.com
Billed as he "World's Largest Index of Playable Internet Music", seeqpod has just unveiled an extremely user friendly interface for iPodTouch/iPhone users. The application will make Apple happy that it is using its "Web 2.0 SDK" but upset that it is using it for (what could be easily considered) piracy. Another negative for Cupertino is that it will also be competition for the iTunes Music Store in that when used from a desktop, users can download mp3s directly to your computer. The iTunes mobile store could also lose some impulse buyers..
http://www.9to5mac.com/seeqpod-43535996- RonAcierno, on 02/07/2008, -0/+1How do you d-load the mp3's to your desktop ... I can't seem to figure that out
- eld4nt3, on 10/11/2007, -0/+0http://modsyn.wordpress.com/2007/06/22/free-music- ...
There is a .jar application you can use to download them.
- Raider007, on 10/11/2007, -1/+2time to get a Touch...
- ebdiesel08, on 10/11/2007, -1/+0i love my ipod touch but these apps give it more life. When apple delibrately holds back features they then wonder why ppl do what they do.
- bobbothegrayson, on 10/12/2007, -0/+15If Apple were to release Apps on the iTunes store, for free, podcast style. I'd love it, but i doubt that will happen. So lets just never update :)
- Philosomatika, on 10/11/2007, -4/+2I really want a ipod touch ive even put a pre order for one.
But this is whats pissing me off, they where offically released in the UK on september 28th. Now no store has them ive been going out on a weekly sometimes daily bassis asking the kcrs apple reseller and every other store that sells ipod and non of them know when they are getting any in.
To me this equals a ***** piss poor release for a great product. I dont give a ***** about how high the pre orders were. I say if your going to release a product and hype about make sure there are plenty in the stores that want to sell them.- Angostura, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2Just so you know, I phoned the Apple Store in Bluewatwer Kent to see if the had any on Oct. 3. They said they had plenty and I bought one that evening.
- carrera594, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3I suggest to wait the Touch dev team is planning to release their own noob friendly version.
http://www.touchdev.net/wiki/Main_Page
Check Under Progress. - Onetrack, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7I did this last night.. using maps on mine now..
Just follow the jailbreak step by step and it works.. the nes emu is cool.. but I really like notes / maps and the ability to add in events.
Silly apple.. just make this stuff available to begin with - and quit the corporate greed.- popothebright, on 11/08/2007, -0/+5Meet the next Microsoft.
- Kitsune818, on 10/15/2007, -1/+1Something about the Touch is just very weird and very "Un-Apple", whatever that is. It's not like Apple to miss a very forward looking opportunity.. like making the Touch also a PDA by enabling all these aps. People who need a smart phone and an iPod would get the iPhone, everyone else might buy it for the iPod and get hooked on having a PDA that Apple made. Maybe eventually they'd move up to the iPhone. It's almost as if Apple has lost sight of the "iPod Effect" entirely.
- Angostura, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1It is almost as if Apple is planning to release a pricier PDA based on the Touch/iPhone platform, you mean.
- dl27, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3http://www.ipodtouchfans.com/forums/showthread.php ...
74 steps just to get jailbreak working!! ... maybe i'll just use mine as it came and wait for some one click hacks - agenthamsta, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1i hope they don't brick the ipods too...
- nape, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1is it possible to use this without breaking the sync?
- nape, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2i just found out, THIS DOESNT BREAK THE SYNC!!! time to hack!
- jstene, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Apple has locked the iPod for the same reason most IT groups disallow users from having local admin rights. Support. At the very least Apple should release an SDK so that consumers don't have to resort to these lengths to put 3rd party Apps on their iPod's.
- norbiu, on 10/12/2007, -0/+12Listen up Apple! THIS is the reason I'm buying a Touch, so please don't ***** it up.
- popothebright, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4You're clinging to that faint memory of when Apple was a 'cool' company. Those days are *long* past.
The last thing they want you to do is actually freely use the product you paid for.
Don't worry: they absolutely *will* ***** it up. The iPod will become more proprietary, more locked-down, more DRM infected, etc. And don't worry about iTunes either, it will become bigger, more bloated and slower before you know it.
Yay Apple!
- popothebright, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4You're clinging to that faint memory of when Apple was a 'cool' company. Those days are *long* past.
- hay112, on 10/11/2007, -3/+3umm, how about allowing us to used winamp + ml_pod
Thanks Mr. Jobs- popothebright, on 10/11/2007, -2/+2Dream on. But I wholeheartedly agree. iTunes is absolute garbage. (Why is it so big and slow???)
- DarkDx, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3The famous TIFF exploit. It was used in the PSP, now in the Ipod touch and this looks very great! You can do the glitch in the PS3 but nobody has released a ***** modchip or hdloader WHEEENNNN!!!!!?????
- nihilism65, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2AWSOME! Now all we need is a mod to make the damn things more than 16gb so these things actually have functionality over just being next gen eye candy...
- ThePeacemaker02, on 10/11/2007, -0/+0I'm waiting for a retard friendly version to come out for me. It's too complicated right now. Especially with no tutorial for Mac. Are you able to sync music and stuff after you do a full jailbreak?
- popothebright, on 10/12/2007, -5/+2Good first step. Now can we please use WinAmp instead of that bloated monstrosity called iTunes? (ie: The new RealPlayer).
- fuyoh, on 10/11/2007, -1/+0The small brother!
If Apple integrated so many features into the small brother, why not add on the phone feature. What for produce iPhone? - nicoladimaria, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2closed source ain't cool
- beekmada, on 10/11/2007, -1/+2I think a cool app. for the touch would be incorporating http://www.ip-adress.com/ with google maps. In a sense it would be like having GPS whenever you are connected to wi-fi.
- SirZRX, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3suck it up apple!
- steveken, on 10/14/2007, -0/+0I am sorry to have to ask this, but I have noticed it a LOT on engadget articles. What does "after the break" mean? I have seen it a lot and just can't figure out what break they are talking about.
- Yankoka13, on 12/10/2007, -0/+0this is a good site that tells you how to get a touch for free...
http://get-afreeipodtouch.blogspot.com/ - tjsocr1, on 01/22/2008, -0/+0
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