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- alextiming, on 10/12/2007, -9/+36I can't wait. I HATE Motorola phone's UI.
- me2me4me6me8, on 10/12/2007, -6/+30This hardly seems like a confirmation... Does anyone else find this a little vague/misleading?
- fleetskeet, on 10/12/2007, -3/+24I've hated the UI for every Motorola phone I've ever owned.
- chicken101, on 10/12/2007, -6/+19As long as:
1) Apple actually designs it
2) Available for all cell phone carriers (=P)
3) Has a click wheel
4) Gets good reception
5) Not limited to 100 songs
If it does those things, I'm in. - FlyingLlama, on 10/12/2007, -5/+17Can someone explain to me what's wrong with Motorola's UI? I have a PEBL and honestly don't see anything wrong with the UI.
Please don't flame me or -digg me, I just want to know. - thomashallock, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10@flyingllama:
to get to the calculator or calendar apps, it's:
settings -> tools -> calculator.... WTF?
Phone book entries can only have one contact per person, so if you want to store someone's home andwork numbers, you need two entries.
Every time you take a picture, it asks you if you want to send it or save it, then it asks where you want to save it. Then the "picture saved" status message comes up for like three seconds and you can't do anything else for a while. You can't just take a bunch of pictures without having to fiddle around with the menu between each one.
I wish phone makers would take the time to incorperate user feedback into their interfaces, or else open-source their oses and let us program them. It's been my general experience with a few obvious exceptions that hardware companies really suck at software and don't seem to understand this. - leonbev, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7As with all Apple rumors on Digg, you shouldnt believe until Steve announces it. Until then, NOTHING is "confirmed".
- drizek, on 10/12/2007, -14/+21Taiwan? I thought apple products were made by angels in heaven.
- underburn, on 10/12/2007, -3/+9Available for all cell phone carriers? thatll be a cold day in hell.
- LaughingMan11, on 10/12/2007, -3/+9I agree. This is not a confirmation. This is just another Taiwanese OEM blowing smoke up our collective butts... and analysts going off and sensationalizing.
I'm going to stay skeptical on this one. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8I'm sorry but the iPod is better. It's not mass hysteria. Apple knows how to design great products, and because of HISTORICAL evidence, we're saying the iPhone would probably continue in that legacy.
- apersaud, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Can we first get a confirmation on the "April 1st event"? Its getting pretty close and no news about inviations!
Steve, I'm getting worried what UBS says its true.... - nickarodriguez, on 10/12/2007, -5/+8Finally a phone that JUST WORKS!
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -5/+8I hate the UI for every single cell phone I have ever come across (Two Motorolas, two Nokias, a Sony Ericsson, a Sanyo, and a Blackberry).
- Rounin, on 10/12/2007, -4/+7Maybe when California snaps off the continent in the near future, it WILL be an "iLand".
Yes folks, I'm here all night. Please remember to tip your waitress. - Ilyanep, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5Define confirmed because I don't think we're using the same edition of the dictionary.
- dhan, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5personally I prefer Nokia. I can't stand Motorola...good hardware but UI is a let down.
- leoCT, on 10/12/2007, -6/+9Apple could go with Sony Ericsson. Best UI I tried and very sleek (candybar) phones. But I have the impression that Americans prefer flip phones (e.g. Razor).
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Maybe if you RTFA you'd know that it's not actually BenQ with whom Apple is negotiating.
- thetrav, on 10/12/2007, -7/+9Good news! Maybe this will finally be an iTunes-capable phone worth buying.
- pavelich, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2A click wheel is probably the last thing i would want on a phone. They can do better than just make it look exactly like an ipod but have the functions of a phone.
- LaughingMan11, on 10/12/2007, -3/+5What can I say but... in ALL things consumer, brand recognition is the most valuable asset.
It's not like it doesn't already exist today. Motorola has been able to milk their brand recognition for the RAZR and the SLVR even though the UI sucks and there are better phones out there...
Brand recognition is everything. That's marketing. - wilf_brim, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Why not? That is what the phone costs, you are too used to phones subsidized throught the carrier. In most of the rest of the world phones are sold separately from service. That is why they get them first, and generally pay more. But the service is less, the phones have better features (because carriers can't lock you out of, say, BT transfers, so you have to pay $2 for a ringtone) and you generally aren't tied to one carrier. So if they piss you off or make promises about service that aren't true, you tell them to sod off, go to another carrier, shove in the new SIM, and off you go.
I just bit the bullet and bought an unlocked Samsung D600. Its awesome. But no carrier in the US has it, so you have to pay more and deal with funkiness like adapters for the charger. - nanoguy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2He never actually said there was an event in his speech, he just kind of vaguely hinted at it. So this gives him flexibilty to back out if needed, which is what it looks like he is doing. They need to have something big to announce to have an event and they don't have anything it seems.
- frontpage, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4Hey check it out you can reply directly to the top-level comment that you're replying to; you don't have to put your followup forty miles away from its parent, it's way awesome dudes hang ten
The new comment system has a purpose. - AhmedB, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I'm really wondering if the UI will be as simple, straight forward and intuitive like the iPod
- FlyingLlama, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Thank you for explaining Motorola's phone problems! Their picture taking method has some serious issues. I guess that Motorola's UI Could use a little work.
-flyingllama
P.S: Does anyone know if there is ANY way to get those really sweet new Sony-Ericsson phones here in the US? - hiro, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1"Here is what makes this interesting... if true:
The phone may be the first ever to have a USEABLE CALENDAR. Because of iCal integration."
Never used a Smartphone with Outlook integration obviously
"The phone may be the first ever to have a USEABLE MP# PLAYER. Because of iTunes integration."
No, plenty of those around, Sony Ericsson make particularly good ones
"The phone may be the first ever to have a USEABLE CAMERA because of iPhoto integration."
I'll assume you were joking here, or have been in a come for 3 years
"Otherwise its pretty much the same as any other phone but white."
Yup........... oh hang on, it'll be black as well - Ireland, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1You like Gizmondo's list, look at these!
(I hope these links work)
http://mobbit.info/media/3/iPhone.jpg
http://www.marketingandit.com/wp-content/iPhone6.jpg - riflemann, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1It's not going to be a cold day in hell. It's here today and it's called GSM, used in most countries around the world. Only the US (and maybe a couple of other small countries) have the concept of carrier-specific phones.
- Stymyx, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I agree. Since the first 2 Moto / iTunes phones were exclusive to Cingular, it wouldn't be surprising if this iPhone is as well. I will be horrendously disappointed if this phone is locked to Cingular. Here in the South, Cingular has ranked at or near the bottom of customer satisfaction surveys for a few years now. Personally, I never had as many dropped calls and bad customer service as I had with Cingular. If the iPhone is exclusive to Cingular, no matter how great the phone may be, I'll pass on it.
- Ireland, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Look at the amount of diiggs right now!
'2006, that's funny!
Maybe it's a sign! - GoMe, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2If this comes out in places like Singapore or other Asian countries that don't lock phones to specific carriers, there will be an unlocked version that you can import and use on any worldwide GSM carrier. (Assuming it uses GSM)
- homestar14, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2This is, of course, not confirmed. However, it is promising.
I have almost no doubt Apple will eventually release their own phone, but I question when it will be released. I am in desperate need of a new Cell Phone (my current one is literally falling apart) and I'd love to wait for Apple's phone. However, the longer I have to wait, the less I want to wait.
Another thing I'm worried about it the carrier. Cingular seems like the obvious candidate, but I have a feeling (and I hope that) Apple will not specify a carrier. This would give them bigger market potential. However, the only problem with this is that the phone then will most likely not have any carrier perks, like V-Cast. That being said, it's likely that Apple will add their own perks, like a version of iTunes with the music store so you can download music to your phone. This could potentially open a whole new mobile-downloading market to Apple.
I can't wait to see what, if anything, Apple has in story in the form of a phone. - BrenBeers, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1You can buy unlocked phones that will work on any GSM service provider. All you have to do is swap out the SIM card and ready to go. And you can buy the phones unlocked on ebay. I just bought me a Sony Ericsson w900i. Should be coming in a few days or so.
- felchdonkey, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Yeah, that Engadget rip seemed a bit harsh. Every blog basically aggregates other sites' stories. At least Engadget has their own reporters, as well. Considering the fact that half the blog stories I read include about seven or eight "via" links before I find the original report, they at least try to break original stories.
I'm not saying to give anyone a free pass, but don't harsh on Engadget just because you don't like something else they did. - barthosch, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1BenQ does some great (looking) products. I hope the phone won't be called "BenQSiemensApple iPhone".
- Stymyx, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Man, don't be such a killjoy. We can dream, can't we?
- gregeth, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3"Can someone explain to me what's wrong with Motorola's UI? I have a PEBL and honestly don't see anything wrong with the UI."
Ever have a good size contact list? It's dog slow when trying to scroll down to a particular name. I often think my razr is freezing up for a second when I realize it's just catching up with the input. It happens when entering other data as well, like in the datebook. I don't necessarily think the UI is too bad, but it could definitely use a speed bump. - UnseenLlama, on 10/12/2007, -5/+6How is Engadget trying to claim this as their own? The link goes straight to the SmartHouse.com article...
- jayf, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1If they do make a phone let's hope it does J2ME apps. Apple already offers its own J2SE implementation on Mac OSX and they have the in-house talent to pull it off.
Currently the other handset makers have created a device fragmentation nightmare and it could be solved if the iPhone were to become as popular as the iPod. This single phone could promote a reference hardware config like what the GBA and Nintendo DS offer to their respective developers. - Salvo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I'd just like to see a phone which integrates with the Mac well.
Nokia Series-60 phones are adequate, but if Nokia Series 40 phones were compatible with iSync, they would be perfect.
If the iPhone could just make calls, PDA functionality which can integrate with iSync and be used for Data-Connectivity (GPRS), I'd be happy with it. If it has iTunes Support, a Camera and other redundant feactures (I already have an iPod and a Camera), I'd probably start to loose interest. - harmoniacal, on 10/12/2007, -3/+4My father got a SLVR and I can't stand the menus or buttons. Luckily, Apple kind of knows what feels right.
- berad, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I don't give a rat's ass about ringers, video, photos, wallpaper, games, music, or video on my phone. What I DO want is easy synching to my computer (preferably through iSync on the Mac), Bluetooth, and Internet connectivity. It pisses me off that providers lock out these features or at least do not demand them of every phone they sell. I mean really, does it make any sense whatsoever that the data on my phone has to be copied manually out of the phone but yet I can look at any media type known to man on the phone?
Thus, until Apple does it right, I'll stick with my 4 year old Sanyo candybar phone. - Meshyf, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1As much as I don't really care what apple does I would be incredibly interested in combining my mp3 player with my phone. Give me blue tooth and 60 gb's of space for mp3s and I"ll take two.
- wilf_brim, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1A possibility. Given Apple's penchant for vertical integration they will launch a VMNO service. The phone will be white, and very pretty, with a VGA camera and iTunes. It will not have a transflash slot, and be limited to 100 songs, so as not to cannabilize iPod sales.
Service will be $100 a month. The phone will initially retail at $499, only through Apple, which will be the only way to sign up for the VMNO service. 2 year contract required. And Apple fans will eat it up. - gigabitten, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2@leoCT- if you havent noticed, sony doesnt just make candy bar style phones, they have slide, flip, whatever.
- nanoguy, on 10/12/2007, -4/+5iRead, iLaughed, iDugg :)
- umdigger, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2BenQ makes some sweet phones. Hopefully this thing will be amazing. I guess I'll have to get a new one now, just in time for an upgrade in a year.
- Ireland, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2I'm going to church to pray now!
I recon I will by one when they come out! -
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