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- firepowered, on 10/12/2007, -42/+361You forget this is digg. Apple fan boys!
- GawtMilk, on 10/12/2007, -17/+302I find it funny that the previous story would even by dugg at all. You've got body armor that stops a 7.62MM armor piercing round, and the credit goes to a piece of plastic and a circuit board.
- ChrisWickenscom, on 10/12/2007, -12/+291Funny...On that story, I even said it was probably his body armor that stopped the bullet, but I got dugg down by so many people who know SO much.
- TheAkolyte, on 10/12/2007, -11/+212@ChrisWickensCom
I know what you mean. "Guys, I don't think an iPod is capable of stopping a bullet..."
"Shut up you stupid pile of human trash! Did you even read the article!? Or is it that you're a terrorist and want all of our troops to die due to lack of life saving iPods?"
Jokes on them, I guess. - ChumpChief, on 10/12/2007, -13/+95Plus, as easily as they scratch, you could probably do as much damage by pushing on it with your finger :-P
- estvir, on 10/12/2007, -7/+89Facts aren't welcome on Digg, no sir.
- AntBing, on 10/12/2007, -2/+54Adrenaline's a hell of a drug.
- randf, on 10/12/2007, -2/+43@somedigger
wow...you forgot to add, "and get off of my lawn" - dtay2827, on 10/12/2007, -5/+37There is no way that he could get shot by an AK-47 and not know about it. I don't care how much armor he was wearing he would have felt that.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -10/+40mindsnare:
What's it like knowing that you're the first moron to post here?
A few thin strips of metal are NOT going to stop a bullet. I suppose when you guys watch movies where cops are having a shoot-out with bad guys and crouch behind their police car doors, you think that doing something like that in real life might actually protect you from a bullet? Hell, a whole ***** car won't stop a bullet, much less a door. Much less a one-inch-thick iPod. - auger282, on 10/12/2007, -5/+32my iPod saved me from a paintball shot... well not really saved... I was still out...
- firepowered, on 10/12/2007, -4/+25Good to see the "truth" but honestly it didnt take a genuis to work out the aromor stopped the bullet. I remmeber reading that in the article that was labeled "iPod saved man's life", but ironically, it said the armor had stopped the bullet. meh.
- TheRealPod, on 10/12/2007, -7/+24I wonder if any real news outlet picked this up without any fact checking....
- SLP1111, on 10/12/2007, -1/+18Site is crawling/about to die so here it is:
I talked to Kevin Garrad this afternoon and here’s the story firsthand:
The armor stopped the bullet.
The iPod was how Kevin Garrad found out he was shot. This is the real story.
Kevin said he got into the fight with the insurgent and afterwards he did not know he was even shot. He said he returned to his bunk after the patrol, put on his earbuds and began to clean his weapon.
He said: “you get into a ritual out there.”
No music came on. He dug around in the pockets where he kept the iPod and pulled out the twisted hunk of metal that is in the pictures. He said that was how he found out that he had been shot during the fight. He was happy that his armor worked.
He said the upgraded armor he was wearing could stop the AK-47 round. It was not the newest armor that is in Iraq now, but it was an upgrade. This was his second iPod that he had brought to Iraq. The first had been damaged earlier and the store would not replace it, even with the additional warranty he purchased.
The pictures are what happens when an AK-47 bullet hits an iPod.
He’s talked to Apple and is happy that they sent him another iPod. He’s gone through two already. If any others send him iPods he’ll put them in care packages back to friends in his unit who don’t have them. - GawtMilk, on 10/12/2007, -2/+19You've got fourty pounds of some of the strongest, densist material on earth. An iPod isn't going to do anything, considering body armor will stop a 7.62MM armor piercing round by itself.
This is what an AK-47 shoots, what the body armor is rated against. How do you think an iPod would fare?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/7.62_x_39_mm - SkaAgent11, on 10/12/2007, -8/+24Digg is a hub for the obsessed consumer...90% of the people on here masturbate daily to the thought that any piece of technology could stop a bullet, especially if its an apple product. It's like gross electronic erotica on here...digg might as well come with a centerfold.
- DerGeist, on 10/12/2007, -2/+18Generally, yes, you'll feel it. In fact, most body armor is designed to slow bullets, not stop them. The hope is that by the time is gets through the armor you'll only feel a nasty paintball-style slap, leaving a bruise and an ugly welt, but leaving you (hopefully) alive.
Armor today has ceramic plates in vital areas. These are very dense plates intended to stop rifle rounds from piercing into vital areas (AP rifle rounds are notorious for cutting through just about anything). From a distance, these plates work quite well. It's likely that this hit came from a decent distance away and in all the confusion, the soldier never felt the impact. When your adrenalin is rushing and you're confused, running, ducking and shooting it's easy to not feel what is happening to your body. In reality this is because in periods of great stress and life-threatening situations your higher brain functions shut down, and you lose fine motor control. Your blood draws back into your body to fuel your muscles and organs to prepare for a fight or to run like mad. As a side effect, your skin becomes harder and less likely to bleed profusely in the event of a laceration. You also won't feel as much.
Just play contact football for a while and you'll see what I mean -- you end up with deep cuts, large bruises, strangely-placed contusions and other weird bodily malformations you won't know about until you shower later on. Ordinarily you'd have felt those injuries like being hit with a battering ram. - airiox, on 10/12/2007, -1/+15The US Military should start using Dragon Skin (don't know if its out of the R&D phase though). This stuff is amazing, it stops point blank grenade attacks.
http://kontraband.com/show/show.asp?ID=6080&rtn=index-topten - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -17/+30iShot anyone?
http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/15621911/?qo=1&q=ishot&qh=boost%3Apopular+age_sigma%3A24h+age_scale%3A5 - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+15They'd need about 80 of them each though, perhaps glued onto regular clothing or something.
Another way to do it would be to just superglue a single iPod to the front of each weapon used by the insurgents! That would work too! - MacParrot, on 10/12/2007, -3/+16Any chance diggers could grow up and stop caring about what OS people run as compared to their own? Or that they could stop giving a crap over what video game console someone uses over what their own choice is?
If you're here on an Apple post simply to make fun of Mac users, or on a Microsoft post to make fun of Windows users, grow the ***** up. My choice of a computer platform isn't the same as yours or the same as hers or the same as his, infinity. So what?
If you're making fun of someone's choice because you use something different, guess what? You're a fanboy too. Congrats. - inukki, on 10/12/2007, -6/+18I, Inukki, did not win anything out of this, it is not win-win situation
if apple sents me an exclusive new ipod, I will win then and be forever converted into this new religion called: owning an apple product - quade, on 10/12/2007, -2/+13They did. ABC ran a 30-second spot on it. Here is the video: http://abcnews.go.com/Video/playerIndex?id=3014778
No attribution, no fact-checking...
(Taken from HavanaLion, at http://havanalion.com/2007/04/06/the-digg-effect/) - psbpv3o, on 10/12/2007, -4/+15HaHA! You believe one truth can stop the smugness of apple fanboys. Their powers are great, thousands of them, their smugness could block out the sun!!!!
- pap3rw8, on 10/12/2007, -8/+19Link isn't working for me, but DM got it.
http://www.duggmirror.com
(sorry for comment abuse) - luckyllama, on 10/12/2007, -2/+13I, too, found it funny that the iPod got the credit. Especially since you can clearly see where the bullet entered, and then exited the iPod.
- MacParrot, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10@innuki,
You misunderstood what I was saying. Digg is filled with fanboys of all stripes who only seem to comment to put down someone else. Your preference is Linux. Great! If it does everything you want it to and you're happy with it, doesn't it piss you off when someone in a Linux post has nothing more to add than "Linux sucks because their ain't no good games", or "Linux sucks because I couldn't figure it out" or "Linux sucks because I'm an ignorant troll that uses (insert favorite OS here)".
If I say something doesn't work for me, I at least try to explain why and give the reasons why application x isn't something I want.
I don't know why, but people are digging you down. I dugg you up because you made a post that wasn't a blatent condemnation of what I use as compared to your own. As it should be. - ChrisWickenscom, on 10/12/2007, -6/+14Dont try and use LOGIC on digg, especially with fanboy's.
- michaelb1, on 10/12/2007, -5/+13Glad we got this cleared up. So whats the next major story?
- RickySan65, on 10/12/2007, -4/+12The only thing worse then a apple fanboy is a linux fanboy ;)
- NJank, on 10/12/2007, -6/+13but it SLOWED IT DOWN! that body armor wouldn't have stood a chance without the cleverly designed, contoured, and molded instant-Projectile-Obstruction-Device. they'll be standard issue any day now.
You know, just like I couldn't open that pickle jar, but then I gave it to my wife who opened it with ease. We all KNOW that my efforts must have loosened it for her... - GawtMilk, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7Minimalism. It's a very nice website. I think just a little bit of red would work well, but it's still a fine site.
- flag564, on 10/12/2007, -21/+27"Funny...On that story, I even said it was probably his body armor that stopped the bullet, but I got dugg down by so many people who know SO much."
The fankids saw the story as an opportunity to pimp the ipod. They were even suggesting that Apple use the situation as a selling point for the thing! It was almost as if they didnt give a darn about the condition of the serviceman that was hit or the validity of a story that, even with a 4th grade knowledge of physics, made absolutely no sense.
They will use anything to promote Apple products. It is disgusting. - walugi, on 10/12/2007, -7/+13pic:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/tiki/445618234/ - RedHerringHack, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8the iVest. Bluetooth Compatible, and the electronics are on the INSIDE.
- davesbrain, on 10/12/2007, -5/+11iPods still make you cool, just like in the commercials, right?
- PersonX2, on 10/12/2007, -4/+9The fact of the matter is, every current OS is a rip-off of another. MS-DOS was bought from a no-name progammer and re-branded as Microsoft. The concept of Windows and the mouse to go with it was copied from Xerox, Mac OS was copied from Windows, Linux has been developed upon concepts from both OS's and others....and so on. Whats your point?
- daurkin, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6I'm happy this story came out. I thought it was joke that news like ABC and Good Morning America were treating it like some miracle that an iPod can slow down a bullet and the body armor had nothing to do with it. However it was great press for Apple
- opethlike, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6RTFA IDIOT.
- dudefather, on 10/12/2007, -3/+8"I hide in my music, forget the day, And dream of a girl I used to..................................."
"hmm my music has stopped......it appears that i've been shot, how about that" - Dolomite, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6RTFA, the soldier came face to face with his attacker. He knows what sort of weapon it was.
- jeffbarnett513, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Glock makes pistols in at least seven different calibers that range in kinetic energy from about 300 to 700 ft-lbs at the muzzle, so you can't generalize them all as being the same. Furthermore, I assure you the maximum effective range of any of them is not 15m. I've split wooden bowling pins at 50 yards with a 9mm Glock 34, and 9mm is a rather wimpy caliber. A 10mm pistol (G20 or G29) could easily penetrate vital organs at that range.
The 7.62x39mm round of the AK-47 is a rifle round, which is totally different and more powerful by many orders of magnitude than a pistol cartridge.
If the bullet hit just the iPod then kevlar vest then the iPod is partially responsible, as a kevlar vest alone won't stop 7.62x39, and the iPod might have bled enough kinetic energy to allow the kevlar weave to stop the bullet. However, if the bullet hit the iPod then a SAPI plate (small arms protective insert, a ceramic plate rated to protect the user from rounds up to 7.62x51) within the kevlar vest then the SAPI alone is responsible and the iPod was just unlucky. - bmeshier, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Of course an ipod can't stop a round from a high powered assault rifle. It doesn't make the story any more or less fun to read!
- hockey, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4I swear digg needs a "redirect comment to digg/politics" button. . . .
- ij00mini, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4On a side note, nice job to sfuller for making such an informative and pertinent comment that it was quoted by the guy who runs this blog.
- whiznat, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4The above link posted by walugi shows pictures. I guess the comment got dugg down because of the the title for the pictures, but the pictures clearly show that the bullet entered in the front and exited out the back. The iPod clearly did not stop the bullet. Titles may misconstrue the facts, but the pictures tell the story. Thanks, walugi.
- Yoshi39, on 10/12/2007, -11/+14ilyag:
"What's it like knowing that you're the first moron to post here?"
"suppose when you guys watch movies where cops are having a shoot-out with bad guys and crouch behind their police car doors, you think that doing something like that in real life might actually protect you from a bullet? Hell, a whole ***** car won't stop a bullet, much less a door. Much less a one-inch-thick iPod."
What's it like knowing that you're the second moron to post here? A glock pistol has a maximum effective range of 15 meters through _air_ now for some reason I would think it would be much harder for said bullet to go through 5 meters of metal then 15 meters of air....
Ps you're right that an ipod wont stop an ak47 bullet but and neither would a door but and engine block sure would. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -6/+8Apple boys not that smug anymore huh?
- DrDabbles, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Exactly why I didn't digg the other article. I'm sorry, I've shot through cars before. There is no iPood on earth that will handle even a .22 round. Sorry, fanboi's...but Lord Steve didn't design it that well. More importantly, the argument that the "metal" in an iPod will stop a bullet...the metal is that cheap shielding. Most HDD platters are made of a glass substrate now-a-days.
- HarryManback, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I smell a Mythbusters episode...
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