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- wild, on 10/10/2007, -2/+112I don't understand why this surprises anyone.
- VG05, on 10/10/2007, -3/+90Whats the big deal? It's not like you HAVE to update to the new firmware, just sit tight and wait till someone cracks that too. It's not a big deal.
- sideshowRAHEEM, on 10/10/2007, -3/+89Well, this is no surprise. This update is not bricking phones it's just destroying all hacks so your basically back to your out of the box settings. I give it a week......week and a half at the most before this is new firmware is hacked and this marry-go-round between Steve Jobs and the "Hackers" contiues.
- Tekel, on 10/10/2007, -35/+98iBricked . Hi, and thank you for buying the Iphone. Please proceed to the next room lube in hand
- catalysis, on 10/10/2007, -2/+54Obviously, since the unlock was a firmware hack, it won't work once the firmware is over-written
- Chairboy, on 10/10/2007, -3/+45"Doctor, Doctor! It hurts when I do _this_!"
"Then don't DO that." - cyberdork, on 10/10/2007, -16/+43Steve Jobs: muahahahha MUAHHAHAHHA!!!
- maninalift, on 10/10/2007, -1/+26Now we just want a hack auto-update service. "You have just installed iphone 1.1.1 would you like to install icrack 1.1.1?"
- relaxeder, on 04/17/2009, -9/+32I wonder if its sunk into Steve's head yet that people are genuinely unhappy with AT&T.
- corripio, on 10/10/2007, -14/+37As much as I would have prefered Apple selling it as an unlocked phone, they are really under no obligation to provide it as such, so they aren't really ***** over their customers, only ***** over customers that decided to ignore the rules. It's like trying to get tech support on pirated software...you're kind of on your own. I'm sure in a short period of time this will be worked around again.
- bpapa, on 10/10/2007, -18/+40iPhowned!
Ah well, this is why I didn't do it. It's not like the iPhone wasn't doing a hundred different things already. I'm too busy watching videos and video podcasts to want the have the (mostly useless) apps I've seen people putting on the phone via hacking. - Emaze, on 10/10/2007, -3/+24does anyone have an Idiot to English translator so I can deciper this comment??
- shabu, on 10/10/2007, -2/+23I really don't understand. How would anyone possibly end up with a bricked iPhone? You have an unlocked phone, don't update, it's as simple as that.
- sleepwalkers, on 10/10/2007, -2/+21Come on guys, this does not brick your phone or relock it.
From Gizmodo: "To clarify, the 1.1.1 firmware upgrade works in an unlocked iPhone and it doesn't brick your iPhone. It just updates the firmware and returns it to activation state."
However, you can't activate/jailbreak the phone again because the jailbreak software doesn't work with the 1.1.1 firmware yet. - blackomegax, on 10/10/2007, -2/+20like t-mobile is any better. like any gsm provider is any good....
i cant wait for google to win the 700mhz band and launch their own WorldDomination cell plans. - djphatjive, on 10/10/2007, -5/+22Its not like they didn't warn you guys.
- Gee1004, on 10/10/2007, -3/+19Still no Flash or cutandpaste
- sideshowRAHEEM, on 10/10/2007, -2/+18I think you should have said if you installed 3rd party apps and then installed an apple firmware update without checking to see if it would destroy your hacked phone first you didn't get ***** by anyone except yourself.
- Marcone, on 10/10/2007, -1/+15Why would someone with a hacked iPhone update it?
- griz, on 10/10/2007, -3/+17Only patches for 10 security vulnerabilities. Nothing important.
- chicagodj, on 10/10/2007, -12/+24Is the next room where they add the sand and broken glass to the lube?
- smhill, on 10/10/2007, -4/+15Justify what?
If you added 3rd party apps, it doesn't get bricked, the apps just don't work. If you hacked/unlocked it, you knew what you were doing, you knew the risks, there is nothing surprising here.
Where is the surprise? Apple flat out said the update would most likely do this (about a week before the update). The cracking tools all pretty much say the same thing in one form or another "if you do this there is no guarantee that it will work with next Apple update".
If you unlocked the phone, you knew without doubt this exact thing would happen. If you are surprised in any way, you are a complete idiot and are simply not the type that should be hacking your iPhone.
Unfortunately that is a side effect of all this information being so available. People who really shouldn't be hacking are doing so without really have ability or knowledge of what they are doing or the scope of the thing. If you choose to hack your iPhone (or anything of the like), there may be consequences. You should make that choice knowing you will have to accept the consequences. If you don't want you phone bricked, or warranty voided or anything of that nature, DON'T DO IT! Use ATT or whatever. If I overclock my Apple or Dell, or build my own box or I can't expect support from the company, or expect the box to work instantly because I stick in the Windows disk. - MisterZero, on 10/10/2007, -7/+18They have to do it to honor their agreement with AT&T. If they don't they could get sued or something.
- sideshowRAHEEM, on 10/10/2007, -2/+13Apple's updates will alway pale in comparison to the hacker community. My hacked phone has custom skins, a NES emulator, a program I can upload to flicker with, a IM client and its running on T-Mobile service all that make this Apple update look silly. The iPhone iTunes store is cool but lets face it most people who have the technical knowledge to hack the iPhone aren't buying music from iTunes there pirating it.
- griz, on 10/10/2007, -5/+16They justify it because they have no obligation to people who hack the phone and use it outside of the functionality it was shipped with. What is so darn hard to understand about that? Open up the hood of your car, drop in a mod chip and see if the dealer will repair your engine under warranty when something goes wrong.
Essentially what you are asking is for Apple to code around the hack. Not going to happen. - superkendall, on 10/10/2007, -2/+12No, brick means just that - a hunk of electronics that does nothing. Being able to turn it off and on means it's not bricked. Being able to sell it because it still works, means it's not bricked.
- hansonc, on 10/10/2007, -1/+11so? Don't run the updates. Problem fixed
- gmacdaddy, on 10/10/2007, -2/+11Download is 152.3MB, makes one wonder if it's just a complete reinstall of the entire iPhone OS!
- jpop, on 10/10/2007, -2/+11Especially since there's not really that much in the update that looks earthshatteringly desireable vs. a phone with a lot of apps/unlocked phone.
- kris33, on 10/10/2007, -1/+10It actually is.
- superkendall, on 10/10/2007, -2/+10There seems to be a lot of misuse of the term "Brick" nowadays, a consequence of making hacking the iPhone so easy... those of us used to hacking devices know a "brick" is a bit of electronics literally a brick, unusable for anything and usually not even able to power on.
The worst that has happened here is the iPhone resorts to the state it was sold in, before unlock hacks were developed - furthermore an update is not even required, you can simply ignore the update until the new hacks come out! - TomFrost, on 10/10/2007, -3/+11Hypocrite much?
Here's a good strategy for not reading iPhone news, though: Stop clicking it. - Hagstrom, on 10/10/2007, -0/+8Accept. Adapt. Overcome.
- mutz, on 10/10/2007, -1/+9Buy your iphone in Belgium... if it ever will be sold here :( ... We have a law that forbids simlocking...
- zdiggler, on 10/10/2007, -0/+7I don't anybody in America is happy with their phone companies. I never had tmobile, I had AT&T/Pac-Bell,Cingular,Sprint,US Cellular and now Verizon, they all suck one way or other.
- rudy23, on 10/10/2007, -3/+10p.s. we dont care where you submitted your post from
- Almadiel, on 10/10/2007, -1/+8So much for their supposedly neutral stance on third party applications. And considering how long it is taking to jailbreak the iTouch, I doubt this will be overcome quickly.
- smhill, on 10/10/2007, -0/+7Just exactly how has it become ridiculous? Really, what exactly do you mean?
At the launch, Apple said it would only be available on ATT at first, and there would be no 3rd party apps. That has not changed. It is exactly as they said it would be. Of course people have figured out how to do both, so actually the situation has improved, regardless of whether or not it Apple approved.
The situation has only changed if you had fantasy expectations in the first place or are just an idiot. - 4ndr3w, on 10/10/2007, -0/+7The Mac is a closed system?
- 80hd, on 10/10/2007, -3/+10Why is it necessary to update the firmware? voluntarily bricking your phone is stupid.
- sleepwalkers, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6The phone will not refuse to work nor re-lock itself, even after the 1.1.1 update. It simply returns it to the activation state, and it can't be "activated" or jailbroken until the jailbreak software is updated to work with it.
At least according to Gizmodo. - 80hd, on 10/10/2007, -2/+8I don't understand why people are volunteering to update firmware and ***** their phones. Will the phone refuse to work with updates turned off?
- Nicksname1, on 10/10/2007, -1/+7Who would upgrade if they did a SimCard hack of course it would get disabled.
- FLLawLibrarian, on 10/10/2007, -4/+10Hey Mr Jobs... "Don't tase me, bro"
/go ahead and digg me down, I had to do it. - Scheissenegger, on 10/10/2007, -4/+10the story has been dugg by someone, please digg it if you like it: http://digg.com/apple/New_iPhone_Unlock_Guide_Reve ...
btw: The trick is to press and hold SHIFT while hitting restore in iTunes, that allows you to select the firmware version manually. - joerod, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6things apple missed, multiple person txt msg, save emailed files, horizontal keyboard when typing txt and email (because its easier), flash in web browser
- apersaud, on 10/10/2007, -1/+6Dear Steve,
WHERE IN THE HECK IS MY MOBILE ICHAT APPLICATION!!!????
Best,
FanBoy - drlha, on 10/10/2007, -1/+6AT&T pays them for every iPhone using subscriber, so yes, it does benefit Apple to not have people unlock the iPhone.
- sideshowRAHEEM, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5The iphone does not auto update you have to give the ok first and then set as itunes downloads the new firmware witch is 150+ MB. And I can't see apple crippling old versions of the firmware they know this new firmware will be cracked soon and then the next update from apple will destroy that hack and so on and so on. Steve knows how the game is played.
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