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- firearcade, on 10/10/2007, -2/+231.1.1. could be the new sign of the devil
we need a new number - lisapham, on 10/10/2007, -2/+11So Once again we've been had by Steve Jobs and the Cupertino Boys.
- Waredgo, on 10/10/2007, -0/+8I tell you....I love the way that has turned out.
For so long have "hackers" coded their way around DRM, firmware and other "security measures" I too am guilty of doing so, and every time I try it I know that I do so with the knowledge that it either may not work or worse yet I could "brick" the device that I am trying to thwart.
It was only a matter of time before a real "mainstream" hack like the one used on the iPhone came about and ended up backfiring. Though I sincerely hope that the "hackers"find a way to fight back and re-unloack the iPhone, I find this turn of events extremely entertaining and admitedly comical in its irony. - totorototoro, on 10/10/2007, -1/+9Wired's chart is humorous...but leaving out the security fixes that were also rolled into 1.1.1 is a bit deceptive. Then again, it IS only hacker types who hacked their iPhones anyways, so maybe they aren't as worried about those :p
- SPThom, on 10/10/2007, -1/+8...then don't buy it.
- mrmacky, on 10/10/2007, -1/+8If anyone ever followed the PSP homebrew scene, No one ever thought that 2.0 would be downgraded, followed by 2.7, 2.71, 2.8, 2.81, 3.0, and 3.x (whatever the hell number they're up to)
Assuming that Apple would never release that many updates to their, and that Apple is worse at software-locking than Sony "perfect god of a phone", 1.1.1 will be unlocked in no time. :-) - leontes, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6take it apple, get it replaced.
- firearcade, on 10/10/2007, -1/+7i followed the psp homebrew scene for nearly 18 months and never imagined there would be a custom firmware.
i'm not an iPhone owner, but i imagine that the software that sony needed to code for the PSP and all of its capabilites (in game functions included) always left a gap to be exploited. i'm not sure the iphone software can leave such gaps to be expoited as mobile phones have always been notoriously locked down compared to games consoles. - tetro, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6To be fair, there were multiple warnings from Apple that the next update would brick unlocked phones. It's common sense to interpret that as avoid the next update if you want to use your unlocked phone.
- bjarkebech, on 10/10/2007, -2/+8Nice to see an unbiased comparison.
- monsterofNone, on 10/10/2007, -1/+7i can't quite see the controversy here. i haven't done anything to my phone... updated it to 1.1.1 and suffered the hideous consequences of getting more functionality than the phone had when i bought it. i now have access to iTunes. horrors. anyone who bought the phone hoping to hack it to do more than was advertised should have known it was a risk. now all they have to do is decide not to update the firmware. they get the functions they've hacked... but they don't get any new ones. are the new apple approved updates worth losing the unapproved hacked ones? you decide. but please quit bitching. it's unseemly.
- RST1123, on 10/10/2007, -3/+7Update my phone so I can have a single advertisement on my bottom row, amidst the full rows above it? I think not.
You can keep your iTunes Music Store, Apple, my device is a phone, not iTunes. - euphemizeme, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3Don't apologize, just don't do it.
- dysonlu, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3You should know better and expect that to happen with Apple. This company exercises the tightest control on their products.
- AndrewWiggin, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3You are right and wrong. Why people would update if they want it remained unlocked is beyond me. But for people using it as it was intended, with AT&T and all, then there are plenty of reasons to update other than the starbucks deal, such as double tapping the home button to get to your favourites and double tapping the space bar to get a period and space.
- KibibyteBrain, on 10/10/2007, -1/+3Lots of people have gotten friends to hack their iPhone, or even paid someone else to do it for them. I'd say that while most people with hacked iPhones are probably hacker types, there are a few people out there pretty scared that their iPhone will go dead soon and they'll have no idea what to do.
- GREEDOnvrFIRED, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2I loved my iPhone before i added apps. I loved it ALOT after I added apps. I updated and lost the apps. Now I just love my iPhone again. boo hoo.
- Ajaxpeapod, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2So while I was trying to get my new iBrick serviced at the apple store on 5th ave today (arguing, albeit as politely as possible with the store manager) some apple fanboy walks in to BUY another iPhone. Because he bricked his. Hmmmm.... Apple over charges everyone by $200, then gives us all a $100 "rebate". Kills a chunk of early adopter phones, now we need to use our $100 "rebates" on a NEW phone. This is ***** insanity.
- Modestexcuse, on 10/10/2007, -1/+3Guess I'm back to a damn rope with styrofoam cups. Oh well, at least I get an accurate weather forcast. (Assuming I'm outside)
- streak, on 10/10/2007, -1/+3Some of us (like myself) were more than willing to fork out $599 and be early adopters, in exchange for promoting a revolution in mobile freedom and technology. Closing the iPhone and dropping spamware on us like Starbucks is contrary to these ideals.
- royalwcheese, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1But does your phone hit the front page of digg seventeen times a day?!?
- ibone, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1I have no reason to update i could give two ***** about doubletap and itunes over wifi.
I would not want my iphone if i couldnt get the apps, ringtones, themes. And I have AT&T already. - cleverboy, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Yup, and this one wasn't included until 1.1.1 either:
http://www.figma.com/dialerbug/
Try this on 1.02 and then on 1.1.1. Night and day. They nailed it. - Avian00, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Dugg for including Wired's diagram.
- totorototoro, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Really? These were incorporated into 1.01 and 1.0.2 already?
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=306 ... - slipdisc2, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Apple won't be "pushing" the update on you. You sure about that?
- cleverboy, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1FYI, a damn good article:
http://digg.com/apple/iPhone_Bricking_The_Inconven ... - CIAVT, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1It pushes to iTunes, but you still actually have to click the "Update" button. It doesn't auto-install.
- superkendall, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2Even beyond the security fixes there is improved VPN support, that's not on the chart.
- Kruez, on 10/10/2007, -2/+3I thought 1.1.1 screwed up my touchscreen. Turns out my iPhone just won't take input on the bottom sliver of the screen in certain apps, even after a full restore. Which really sucks too because I rather liked having a spacebar!
- ec92009, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1On a positive note 1.1.1 seems to have fixed a bug in safari, a bug that prevented me from viewing long pages on digg.com.
Small consolation for my lost 3rd party apps :( - CIAVT, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1For all intensive purposes, it's back to square one. Except this time we will have a lot more knowlege going in to the hacking attempt.
- ec92009, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1yes take it back, but make sure to get an appointment if you need to talk to a genius in order to avoid a long long wait in line
- phoomp, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Exactly. The earliest exploits into the PSP firmware leveraged gaps in third party software (the games). As we're all painfully aware, the iPhone is intended to be a completely closed system. Apple should be able to lock it down without the level of difficulty that Sony's had. Especially if Apple software is as hacker-proof as we're constantly told it is.
- lobasuu, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1That doesn`t make much sense, to be honest. You KNOW your phone could be loads better, don`t you miss any of those wicked 3rd-party-apps?
- third_eye, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2So does it ***** up installer.app or doesn't it?
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Here's what the Geniuses are doing to determine if you "hacked your phone", they tap information from the "Incorrect SIM" window and compare the IMEI number to the one on the back of the iphone. If they don't match, they know the phone was "unlocked".
I know this because I experienced it. I attempted to unlock my phone for TMobile before giving up and just signing up with ATT. Now the phone is bricked and unreturnable. The genius was understanding and explained to me what was going on but went on to say that he can't replace it because the IMEI numbers don't match.
Anyone know whether a hack is in the works to allow updating the IMEI to match what is on the back of the iphone? - stapuft, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1yeah and back to the whole psp thing most of the exploits were tiff baised so who knows mabie the iphone will get the tiff hack treatment that the godly psp got
i dont own/want a iphone and the psp pwns ther hacking scene - Blitzenn, on 10/10/2007, -2/+2I don't have one yet. I wanted to wait to see how all of this shakes out first. I am going to spend my money on the first drm free, unlocked device some manufacture sells that gets it right. I wish Archos made a phone. The 605 wifi rocks.
- Nev9, on 10/10/2007, -2/+2UK iPhone November 9th!!!
- beatryder, on 10/10/2007, -5/+5burried iPhone OVERLOAD
- stormbreaker, on 10/10/2007, -2/+2Hey! I have that background!
- DelSolid, on 10/10/2007, -5/+5My patience for Apple is running thin. AT&T sucks but it's Apple that's forcing them on us and I am getting sick of it.
- mhmdkhamis, on 12/17/2007, -0/+0http://www.paramegsoft.com/forum/ http://game.paramegsoft.com/
I tell you....I love the way that has turned out.
For so long have "hackers" coded their way around DRM, firmware and other "security measures" I too am guilty of doing so, and every time I try it I know that I do so with the knowledge that it either may not work or worse yet I could "brick" the device that I am trying to thwart.
It was only a matter of time before a real "mainstream" hack like the one used on the iPhone came about and ended up backfiring. Though I sincerely hope that the "hackers"find a way to fight back and re-unloack the iPhone, I find this turn of events extremely entertaining and admitedly comical in its irony.
http://download.free-software.cc - forsannet, on 12/25/2007, -0/+0thank you very much
nice
http://www.forsannet.net
http://games.forsannet.net
http://dir.forsannet.net
http://forum.forsannet.net - superkendall, on 10/10/2007, -1/+1It didn't backfire, there are simply quite a few people now who are better educated as to teh upsides AND downsides of device hacking. And to learn not to just instally apply every update that comes down the pike day 0.
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