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iPhone shatters AT&T record, dwarfs RAZR

macnn.com — Apple over the weekend sold more than 700,000 iPhones to rocket past analyst predictions and shatter AT&T's record by selling more iPhones in three days than Motorola's RAZR did in its first month. Apple's supply of iPhones depleted at more than half of its retail stores less than a week after the cellular handset hit store

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  • adarkmethod, on 10/11/2007, -101/+15now... just bring it to users of Linux. Contact info for the PR department heads of Iphone and Itunes Dvisions

    Derick Mains - dmains@apple.com [Itunes] And Jennifer Hakes - jenniferh@apple.com [iphone]

    Hello Derrick and Jennifer,

    My name is [edited out because this is digg]. Im a music fan, and technology geek. Because I have interest in these two topics, I'm very curious why Apple does not offer its Itunes music store to Linux users. Do you not want people like me to use the Iphone or Ipod devices? They both appear to be very nice. Both devices are sauve and chic, and both have helped put apple at the top of the consumer electronics industry. So my question for you is, again, why is Itunes not available for the growing number of people who use Ubuntu, Red Hat, Mandriva, Fedora, and various other flavors of Linux operating system. Your own OS X operating system is based almost entire on the Linux Kernel, the very same one I use every day. So why should I be forced to use second rate, homebrew software, and risk damaging my devices by opening them to try personal work arounds of your phone locking systems? Congress has stated very clearly that GSM phones cannot be locked permanently to a carrier, and that all users must be able to port the phone to another carrier whenever they choose, without penalty, so why must users void the warranty on your Iphone to use it on another service?

    To summarize, port Itunes, its already based on Linux anyways, so stop screwing over the people without whom you wouldnt even have an OS to sell.

    And offer, without question, the unlock code for your nice new Iphone. Its the legal, and ethical right thing to do. If you were offering a discount to people willing to lock themselves into a contract with the terrible people who run ATT, then maybe you could justify locking it, but you dont. You still charge an estimated $300 - $400 above the production cost of the phone, AND expect people to use a second rate mobile phone service, with no reasonable customer service. Poor taste to say the least

    -A Potential Customer, when you learn how to treat the ones you already have.
    • monkeyrun, on 10/11/2007, -3/+37"port Itunes, its already based on Linux anyways"

      What are you talking about?

      NextStep, OpenStep, BSD Unix, Darwin .. etc has nothing to do with Linux.
      • Cwo655321, on 10/11/2007, -2/+12but but but, they have the same commands; they must be the same. hahahahaha
    • PURDooM, on 10/11/2007, -5/+13That was lame.
    • yikiad, on 10/11/2007, -4/+10uhhhh.....shut up
    • bitspace, on 10/11/2007, -1/+24"Your own OS X operating system is based almost entire on the Linux Kernel, the very same one I use every day."

      I hope you sent that to them.

      Mac OS X has absolutely no foundation in Linux. Darwin is a BSD derivative.

      • EruLabs, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Hehe, you know thats not exactly fair. On digg, here, yeah, but put yourself in his shoes. Remember most people have no idea how the hell a computer works..

        edit: my comment sounds like im defending him. He is a dumb-crap for sure, but... well.. you get my message
    • rpgmaker, on 10/11/2007, -14/+6Apple doesn't acknowledge the FLOSS community. Look at the Safari/IE chart or try to remember when was the last time that you listened Steve Jobs say 'Linux', Yeah, never, but still, Linux is more relevant in the corporate space (or in public administration) than Mac OS. Digg me down for the truth fanboys.
      • KMartSheriff, on 10/11/2007, -3/+1Coming right up. I know you're right, but you did ask to be dugg down.
    • chrismccorkle, on 10/11/2007, -1/+1lol @ your dark method
    • TheAnarchist, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3You call yourself a Linux user, yet you don't know the difference between Linux and BSD + Darwin.. Pathetic. You're a failure to the Linux community... this proves that you've probably only used linux for like a week and consider yourself "apart of the team"
    • Dayyve, on 10/11/2007, -2/+1Hot damn adarkmethod! You didn't flame anybody or do anything wrong, just trying to help the BSD (what you meant) and Linux guys with iTunes. I had no idea you guys couldn't use it. That _is_ pretty shoddy (I'm a Window user.) You may have sounded a tad bit whiney but these pretentious apple ***** are all about 16 years old and NEED a Mac to feel like they have a chance at getting laid. Which they don't. In fact, don't waste your time with the _full_ Tech tree anymore on digg. These MacTards have every spot taken up with iPhone stories and blogs on how curved Ive's prick is when it's up Job's arse. HAHA! In otherwords adarkmethod....I'm joining you in bury hell ;)
    • tdhurst, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Hey, all 100 of you should sign some sort of petition. I'm sure you'll have as much success as Apple users do when they want a Windows-only app ported over.
    • adarkmethod, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1I am only 3 or 4 months in with linux, BSD and Linux are related to my understanding, if i'm wrong, my bad. I maintain that the port would be painless and simple for them. Linux developers have found ways to make the Ipod work over here, but Itunes itself does not. Damn, -86? that seems a bit harsh, especially considering that I got three responses from them, all quite lengthy, and none of which that actually adressed any of the questions/comments in my original email.
  • CaptainNoPants, on 10/11/2007, -44/+5definitely a good letter, however I fear that the higher ups at apple will do nothing regarding any of your points, unfortunately.
  • MavRevMatt, on 10/11/2007, -61/+10There also was no false-hype about the Razr. Burried.
    • mywhitenoise, on 10/11/2007, -5/+16Yes there was. No one gave a ***** about it, but there was definitely pre-release hype.
    • FoxOrian, on 10/11/2007, -0/+5The original Razr had some hype cuz it was all "razer thin" [but awfully broad.] The Razr is manufactured so damn cheaply and in so many different variations these days, I'm surprised you don't get them as a prize in your cereal boxes -- carriers give them away for free by the dozens as it is.
      • GliTCH82, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1My dad got a new Razr V3XX or whatever, for a near cereal box price, and that thing is actually pretty sweet. But back when the first Razrs came out, most phones on the market were crap. The Razr was the first one I actually thought had a decent build and feel.
  • dylanmat, on 10/11/2007, -3/+52Actual article: http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601103&sid=a7A4BDWusr2U&refer=news
  • AndrewDB, on 01/10/2008, -4/+85Which makes the iPhone the most likely mobile phone to be stolen. It used to be the Razr..
    • vertov, on 10/11/2007, -4/+21You don't need sales figures for that. The price alone makes it a worthwhile pick.
    • earthling3000, on 10/11/2007, -8/+1But if you can't activate (how are you going to re-activate a stolen phone) there is no use for it. It's just a silver brick that doesn't even play music. I believe this might inhibit some pick pockets..
      • plnegative1, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3you can put in a different sim card.... hacks... etc....
    • PDelahanty, on 10/11/2007, -7/+2Duh. More phones = more chances to be stolen.
    • daridave, on 10/11/2007, -1/+7Bah.

      Apples and oranges. No no, cherries and melons. Come on, as if the two were even comparable. I love my RAZR V6, but ... it's not even a question, I want an iPhone, too.
    • Doomy, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3The RAZR quit being the phone to steal a while ago. The technology hasn't changed enough since it was released, and there are many more phones that perform much better than the RAZR does.
    • da_bradler, on 10/11/2007, -7/+2but there is no way to replace the Sim card, it would be completely useless if stolen
      • harbrut, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3That's retarded. Go buy a paper clip. The Sim card comes out in about a second.
  • warholsbluecat, on 10/11/2007, -53/+14SHUT UP ABOUT THE IPHONE!
    • thebrokenlight, on 10/11/2007, -18/+12SHUT UP ABOUT SHUTTING UP ABOUT THE IPHONE!
    • albiniak, on 10/11/2007, -17/+3NO, SHUT UP ABOUT THE IPHONE!

      i own one, am happy with it, but am so over the news about the news about the projections on estimates. it's ***** ridiculous.

      "BREAKING: iPhone on pace to sell 7 trillion phones by q1 2008!"
    • KMartSheriff, on 10/11/2007, -0/+13I'll take 3 retards with a side of CAPS LOCK please.
    • tdhurst, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1So, how do you like your iPhone? Mine totally got me laid last night (that and a bottle of wine and some roofies). My iPhone makes me better looking, cooler and an all around better person.

      WHAT HAVE YOU DONE LATELY?
  • dustblaaze, on 10/11/2007, -33/+17It sure does dwarf the Razr. I can fit my razr in my pocket, I need a damn man purse for my iPhone.
    • mywhitenoise, on 10/11/2007, -2/+8that is retarded. I can fit my iPod comfortably in my pocket (and I wear pretty tight jeans 28x30 slim skinny fit), and the iPhone is substantially smaller than my 60GB iPod.
    • FoxOrian, on 10/11/2007, -2/+8Yeah you need to stop buying womens pants or something if your pockets are that small.
    • KMartSheriff, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4Dude stop buying chick pants then. I don't care how successful your night life is.
    • tdhurst, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Man bags are the new wallet, dude. They really are practical. I can fit soooo much stuff in mine.
  • masterskill, on 10/11/2007, -24/+9Hey..wait, what? You can make calls with the iPhone?

    Does Jobs know about this?
  • Uranium118, on 10/11/2007, -12/+3Do I have Déjà Vu's ?
  • mywhitenoise, on 10/11/2007, -10/+58I'm impressed. I hate phones, love my iPod and mac, but I really didn't expect this thing to take off at all until a heavy price drop.
    • lostboy, on 10/11/2007, -1/+8I'm excited by this. I've no intention of buying a first gen iphone unless I happen to have a *lot* of spare cash in my pocket. However I fully intend to invest in one when they iron out the first gen mistakes. I also fully expect the iphone to be hacked soon enough like AppleTV was, to allow third party functionality to be added.

      and yes, I'm also extremely impressed.
  • AlrightMister, on 10/11/2007, -4/+109This is not surprising. The RAZR was a leap forward in form, not function.
    • thatsmyaibo, on 10/11/2007, -18/+16I agree to a point. My treo 755p does all the same things the iPhone does (minus the 8gb) but I'm on a 3g network, have actual GPS and can replace the battery myself. The reason it's doing so well is because of media hype since the day it was announced months ago. I am an Apple user, but I can't justify buying the iPhone.
      • Aggaman, on 10/11/2007, -9/+26Nope. The reason it is doing well is because it is a lot easier to learn and use than your Treo.

        The iPod was the same thing. It was just easier to use and sync than its competitors.

        You, and others to be fair, place far too much emphasis on advertising and hype. People aren't nearly as stupid as you think they are.
        • naio, on 10/11/2007, -17/+4Wrong. Treo 755p runs PalmOS, which is easier than any stinking port of OSX to a mobile device.

          BTW I hate PalmOS, but I hate the iPhone more.
        • thatsmyaibo, on 10/11/2007, -12/+5People will do whatever is 'cool' to society or buy whatever is placed in front of them enough times in the media. The treo is just as easy to use as the iPhone if not easier. They keyboard is tangeble so you know what you're typing and any app is just a touch on the screen (like the iPhone). There is no learning curve to a palm device and it doesn't require me to ship out my phone for a new battery, a sub to AT&T or slow networks. Oh, and the new ones come with instant messaging.
        • epyon180, on 10/11/2007, -0/+18You know I had a first generation hard drive creative mp3 player that did everything that the ipod did but I wonder why I never use it. I remember.... because it SUCKS. Many phones that are older than the iPhone can do everything that the iphone can ( Nokia N95- Mp3 player, 5 MP camera, Wi-Fi, etc). But thats not the point; the point is that the iphone has a great UI and it just works, I don't care how much you hate apple but you have to be stupid and ignorant to think that cell phone software is great right now. I am sick of comments on digg every-time a iphone story comes up saying something like "My _______ phone already does all that and it's ___$ cheaper than the iphone" . Thats the same argument people try to make saying that iPods don't have things like FM tuners etc, those arguments don't work because people that buy iPods don't buy it because of extra features, they buy it because it is easy to use and syncs up very nicely with itunes, Thats exactly how the iphone works.
        • Twasi, on 10/11/2007, -2/+1The problem is this isn't something like an FM tuner. I don't expect my MP3 players to have radio. I do expect it to play MP3's and a handful of other formats and have playlists and such. The iPhone is lacking basic features that all phones should have. It's pitiful with all the things they are missing, heck you can't even use an mp3 as a ring-tone? That would be like your iPod not having playlists or volume control. It's ridiculous. I'll think about an iPhone in a year when apple adds decent features through upgrades.
        • felchdonkey, on 10/11/2007, -1/+17Actually, no, your Treo doesn't do "everything the iPhone does."
          I should know, I just ditched my own Treo for an iPhone.


          Earlier today, I was walking along the street listening to my music on the iPhone, when a call came in. The music faded out smoothly, and I was able to answer with a pinch on the headphone cable.
          While I was talking to my friend, I looked up movie times through Safari - without losing the call.
          Once I got the movie time, I then checked the address of the theater on Google Maps - no problem.
          While we were talking, she asked how the weather would be for tomorrow night's fireworks.
          Again, quick tap on the screen, and I had tomorrow's weather.
          Then, I saw a Shiba Inu on the street - my friend's favorite dog - so I took a picture with the phone while we were talking, and emailed it to her.
          Once the conversation was over, I hung up with another squeeze on the headphone cable, and the music faded back up smoothly, right where I left off.


          Trust me, the Treo does NOT do what the iPhone can do.

      • TokenUser, on 10/11/2007, -20/+13Really? Its easier to use than a Treo? I want to make a phone call. I push the buttons that correspond to the numbers I want to dial, and press "send". Its pretty damn easy to use a phone. Web access on a Palm - click the web icon. You are now online. How ***** hard was that? Syncing ... install the sync software. Press the hotsync button on either the device, or cradle/cable, or on the desktop. Its not rocket science. Its not revolutionary.

        Please don't tell me how easy the iPhone is to use. Its not as straight forward as it seems ... but ohhhh it has a nice glossy UI.

        Comment being dugg down in 5 ... 4 ... 3 ... 2 ... 1
        • sigintop, on 10/11/2007, -1/+10Yet, thousands of people find it complicated. I've always said, it maybe make "tech" sense but it doesn't make "common sense". Working with regular consumers and technology makes me aware that what we think is easy, is in fact baffling. Just look at any computer store and their customers.
          • duniyadnd, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2This new digg comment system is buggy and complicated... *sigh*
          • Jeffler, on 10/11/2007, -1/+1No, you're buggy and complicated! *yell*
          • EruLabs, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Ha! Digg comment comedy, in the flesh!
      • vemerge, on 10/11/2007, -4/+5Generally, people are just as stupid as you think they are and do respond to advertising and hype in a ridiculous fashion. The iPhone has been "the" thing to purchase since it was announced, and all of these people are trying extremely hard to be early adopters. I'm not saying that it wouldn't have sold well anyway, I'm just saying without the level of advertising and hype it received, it would have sold a fraction as well as it did this weekend.
        • DeaPeaJay, on 10/11/2007, -0/+7The iPhone didn't receive significantly more advertising than any other Apple products. It was just *announced* at MacWorld. People created the hype around it, not Apple.
      • soopafly, on 10/11/2007, -0/+18The Treo has more features than the iPhone, yes. Does that make it a better phone? No... I own a Treo 650 and can tell you that surfing the web on that thing is painful. Totally mangles the pages to be practically unusable. The MP3 player on my Treo, extremely counterintuitive and unfriendly. DO NOT under estimate the power of the UI.
        • TokenUser, on 10/11/2007, -3/+2I use a Blackberry 7130e. Have done since it was launched. It is a great phone. Using the Opera minibrowser pages render nicely. The UI does not have a touch screen interface. It uses a multikeyed keyboard, predictive text entry, and a scroll wheel. Not the most intuitive interface once you move beyond the telephone and email functionality (and dont bother with MP3s on this model - no multimedia - yo need a "Pearl" or "Curve" for that). BUT it does what it was designed for, and anyone that has used a touch tone phone can easilt pick up the unit, and place a call. Even picking from the address book is easy.

          The iPhone has its immediate converts. They need to be enthusiastic over the device, because they have just spent half the cost of a MB (or the full price of a cheap Dell) on a cellphone.
        • EruLabs, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2You have a 650p? Join the Linux Dev group!

          Oh baby, ssh, pine, bash, a real OS on a handheld! with cdma support! and touchscreen! and a qwerty!
          forget the Iphone - I want an OpenPhone.
      • dcmjzero, on 10/11/2007, -2/+18gb? that is a very big minus.
    • AlrightMister, on 10/11/2007, -3/+6thatsmyaibo... I hear you. I have an 8525/Tytn running winmo 6. 3g, bluetooth gps, streaming audio/video, sling client, etc. Hell I even have a slide unlock home screen just like the iphone. I think the iphone is a limited leap forward in form and function. This added to Apple's marketing prowess = pretty huge numbers. Apart from the good looks and UI stuff it has nothing for me. No 3g means no sale, tyvm.
    • Burn, on 10/11/2007, -2/+1It's not surprising to me either, I used a V3 RAZR for 6 months and it was the slowest, ***** phone I've ever used.

      I use a Nokia E60 now and, despite it's shortcomings, it's an excellent phone. 3G is awesome.
    • chrismccorkle, on 10/11/2007, -2/+3Very well put.
  • englishganxta, on 10/11/2007, -8/+1That's a suprise.....

    /sarcasm
  • Uranium118, on 10/11/2007, -15/+2My comment dissapeared? wtf?
    • titlesaysitall, on 10/11/2007, -0/+19No I see it fine, it says "My comment dissapeared? wtf?"
    • KMartSheriff, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3Don't worry it's happened a lot to me too ever since this ***** new comment system came into play.
  • dustblaaze, on 10/11/2007, -31/+16How to make the front page on digg:

    Put "iPhone" in the title.
    • mporcheron, on 10/11/2007, -3/+11How to make the front page on digg:

      Link to an article that people want to read about.
  • totorototoro, on 10/11/2007, -8/+37Nice feat..but Apple has a long way to go towards matching the Razr's overall sales..that phone has serious numbers.
    • Aggaman, on 10/11/2007, -8/+8Yeah, after four whole days of sales.
    • totallyAMAZING, on 10/11/2007, -4/+7The RAZR sold millions and only had 6% market share at its peak across all providers. Don't plan on the iPhone getting a giant market share until they detangle from the AT&T/NSA mess at the very least.
      • tyrione, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4The US market is a fraction of the total Cell Market, World Wide.
    • jmnormand, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4if you consider something given away free "sales". but likely no way the iphone will compete on a broad scale till the previous mentioned price drops.
      • cleverboy, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2The iPhone will never become a "whore" commodity give-away... so... I don't expect it to really keep up with the RAZR, in a "who would want to" type way. Considering the iPhone will NEVER be available for $50, I'd imagine that flying off the racks like hotcakes to be something still in the area of a "holy crap" good job. I didn't believe Apple would "really" have them "in volume" like earlier reports stated, but now that this is being sucked dry, maybe all the eBayers can make a profit (as long as they didn't... you know, pay someone in line $800 to get the one phone they then purchased for $599 more dollars).
    • thesixthdesign, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Well the RAZR has been around for years, the iPhone has only been around for days ...
  • MaXPL, on 10/11/2007, -12/+24i thought the # was only 500,000? is it now gonna go up with every blog who writes about apples opening weekend?
    • 3mpire, on 10/11/2007, -5/+5Operative word: "Shoppers _may_ have taken home as many as 700,000 iPhones over the weekend"
    • harbrut, on 10/11/2007, -2/+2The number sold has a tendency to go up as time passes. No conspiracy here, move along please.
  • macattk, on 10/11/2007, -27/+117Eat ***** ballmer. Next time you laugh, I hope you lose another 700,000 sales.
    • Setter, on 10/11/2007, -21/+2LOL WUT?
    • phoomp, on 10/11/2007, -13/+4ummmm ... sales of what?
    • AlrightMister, on 10/11/2007, -2/+24Ballmer is a sweaty creep. Why M$ would choose to manufacture the zune, a direct competitor to ipod, instead of doing an in-house windows mobile phone is beyond me. They treat the phone market like they treat the PC market, just do software and leave the devices to the OEMs. Microsoft tends to choose their battles poorly.
  • JimmyIkon, on 10/11/2007, -21/+109i'll stop digging iphone if you stop digging ron paul and impeach bush/cheney.
    • CAPSLOCKISCOOL, on 10/11/2007, -11/+6Who are you talking to?
    • beatmonger, on 10/11/2007, -13/+8I was with you until the word "and."
      • carbonfree314, on 10/11/2007, -3/+2He's not asking you to stop digging the impeachment stories, he's just saying he'll stop digging iphone stories if you impeach bush/cheney.
    • chrismccorkle, on 10/11/2007, -2/+6Thank you.
    • ysquirtle, on 10/11/2007, -1/+0Amen to that.
  • geekee, on 10/11/2007, -6/+25Apple is making a killing off of this product. Their kick-backs from AT&T alone for getting customers on AT&T's 2 year plan probably pay for the phone production.
    • Ireland, on 10/11/2007, -3/+2I know they are getting kick-backs, but you just did that survey up your ass.
  • sockpuppets, on 10/11/2007, -10/+67It will soon be trendy and retro to have something older than an iPhone. Girls will flock to my treo, wondering what it is.
  • wallkill, on 10/11/2007, -14/+2Of course iPhone surpassed RAZR. RAZR did not have hype surrounding it as much as the iPhone did.
    • TomFrost, on 10/11/2007, -1/+9...right. It's all about the hype. Damn hype, anyway.

      Oh wait, I forgot the RAZR cost the exact same amount as the iPhone at launch, and the iPhone has more features, style, and speed than you could ever dream of for the RAZR. ...for the exact same price! And you think the iPhone sold more just because of *hype*?
      • B1663r, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4Yeah, Iv hated on the iPhone more than anyone here. The iPhone is the IT device for the next couple of years. I bet at the end of the day apple sells more iPhones than RAZRs ever sold and I also bet Apple does it with out lowering the price. At these kinds of sales numbers, Apple hits three million phones by the end of september and 10 million phones by next summer. I expect revision 2 of the iPhone will make this release look quaint.

        On the other hand... The other carriers will start discounting their phones and services much more than they are currently. So everybody wins. The wireless carriers, and landline providers all lose.
      • B1663r, on 10/11/2007, -2/+1Yeah, Iv hated on the iPhone more than anyone here. The iPhone is the IT device for the next couple of years. I bet at the end of the day apple sells more iPhones than RAZRs ever sold and I also bet Apple does it with out lowering the price. At these kinds of sales numbers, Apple hits three million phones by the end of september and 10 million phones by next summer. I expect revision 2 of the iPhone will make this release look quaint.

        On the other hand... The other carriers will start discounting their phones and services much more than they are currently. So everybody wins. The wireless carriers, and landline providers all lose.
    • naio, on 10/11/2007, -4/+1Nor the paid astroturfers, blogs and press.
  • CraigJ, on 10/11/2007, -3/+12Apple shares closed @ 127.17,+5.91(4.87%) http://www.google.com/finance?client=ig&q=AAPL
    • asjk, on 10/11/2007, -2/+15dugg from my iPhone paid4 by Apple stock
  • Tenlow, on 10/11/2007, -2/+6Ok so random math (please tell me I did it wrong) 700,000 iphones. If you assume everyone paid for the $500 model, and they all got 2 year service contracts @ 50 a month (a conservative estimate), that's $1,190,000,000

    I'm sure alot of those people went prepaid, but alot of them also bought the $600 model. No wonder there was so much hype.
    • parsap, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4Well, the 8 gig model is by far more popular and that is $600, not $500. Also, the plans start at $60/month, not $50.
      • Ireland, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1I worked in the product business before, despite the outrageous profit claims, I'd say Apple would be doing well if they made $90 on each phone.
        • Tenlow, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1I wasnt claiming that much profit, I was pointing out how much money is changing hands overall, and the scientific term for it is "a metric assload"
    • tdhurst, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Maybe Cingular could use all that money from the new plans to stop THE EDGE NETWORK FROM CRASHING EVERY DAY.

      They had months of notice...they suck, period.
  • disciple83, on 10/11/2007, -13/+8Apple gets a lot of credit going into that weekend's numbers. There was a tremendous amount of propagan, err...advertising that went into the iPhone, and it shows. 700,000 in a weekend is flat out amazing. Yea, it tore the pants off the RAZR but you have to look at a bigger picture here. The iPhone, much like the first-gen RAZR, only raises the bar in design alone. You've seen the limitations of the device, and while it does do the things it does very well, it isn't the end-all solution for both business professionals and consumer users, just like the RAZR was. When 2.0 comes out, depending on how Apple shifts its viewpoint on actual open apps, we'll see if it really is the next big thing or simply another piece to throw away in a growing number of dated Apple products among alternatives that can compete in every respect with a cheaper bottom dollar.
    • CryoNine, on 10/11/2007, -1/+4Most of the "hype" wasn't Apple-generated, it was people being excited about the product. Their advertising campaign (TV ads that is) were very well done too. As far as the phone only raising the bar in design, that's a flat point of view. What a lot of people don't realize is that the phone has all the hardware there to make it a very successful device. To make up for the "shortcoming" they only need to do some software updates, and the flexibility of the phone's platform is actually what makes it so revolutionary. No other phone can do it to the degree Apple can, and the touch screen gives even more leeway. Need to update some buttons? It's a software push, not a hardware one.

      There's also a lot of very credible rumors stating many software updates to make up for missing apps will be occurring shortly, including one that opens up development to Cocoa apps. Time will tell!
  • ChristianBk, on 10/11/2007, -14/+5Guys & gals, give me some input: whenever I whip out my new iPhone, girls flock to me like I'm a god of fertility. IS THIS NORMAL?!
    • Cwo655321, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1when you're full of ***** everything is normal
  • Bansuri, on 10/11/2007, -15/+58As we just learned earlier on digg, razr sold 50 million units in less than 2 years. The iphone will not.
    Don't bury me fanboys, I'd get one if I had the money, it's just that they will NEVER give the iphone away with a 2 year contract as they did with the razr. This is truly comparing apples to oranges. Bury this story.
    • ThatsUnpossible, on 10/11/2007, -4/+14Talk about comparing Apples to Oranges -- you're comparing a phone that is GIVEN AWAY to a phone that is SOLD.

      How impressive is it when 50,000,000 of ANYTHING is given away? I mean, how hard is it to sell FREE?
      • sagat, on 10/11/2007, -2/+2The RAZR was never free, the cost of the phone is built into that 2-year contract you paid for. The difference with the IPhone is that the contract does not offset the cost of your device so you in essence pay more than 5/600 bucks for the phone. Unfortunetly people appear to be dumb enougth to pay it so thanks to them you will never get a decent phone included with a contract agin. Instead you will have to fork out an extra couple of hundred dollars for the device because now the phone manufacturers and networks know they can get away with it.

        Much the same thing happened with the special edition game releases leading up to the Next-Gen consoles. The punters went out and paid $60 for them thereby showing the publishers that they could get away with charging that amount for future releases.
      • Burn, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3I wouldn't use a RAZR for free for the record. Heck you couldn't even pay me to use one.
      • Bansuri, on 10/11/2007, -0/+0"Talk about comparing Apples to Oranges -- you're comparing a phone that is GIVEN AWAY to a phone that is SOLD. How impressive is it when 50,000,000 of ANYTHING is given away? I mean, how hard is it to sell FREE?"
        Well, it's a little late, but in my defense I wasn't comparing anything. All you are doing is stressing my point. So...thanks?... I guess...
        I doubt you will ever see this with the new comment system in effect. Kinda clunky.
      • Billions, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1The RAZOR was expensive and exciting when it came out. I think that's what people are trying to compare here - how it was the first of the 'supermodel' phones, a phone that was advertised with a name and a phone where even the average person knew the name and what it was when you pulled it out of you pants. Boing
      • BigFloppy, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1"how hard is it to sell FREE?"

        Ask Ubuntu developers.
    • superkendall, on 10/11/2007, -1/+3I would agree it's pretty likley the iPhone cannot sell 50 million in two years. Unless of course in a year we see some kind of iPhone Nano...
    • Synchro, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3A better comparison would be with the long term sales things like the treo and other "smart phones". Those kind of numbers would be interesting for a more long term sales comparison.
    • bananaguyc, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4You guys are short-sighted. When the Razr first came out in 2004, it was between $400 and $599! The price dropped rapidly due to competition from other phones. The same thing will happen with the iPhone. You can bet that Motorola, Samsung, Nokia, etc. will have iPhone competitors out within six months, and you will be able to get the iPhone free with contract before 2010.
      • dankCIA, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2Excellent point. I remember when the razr cost hundreds of dollars. Now after several years it has become the standard. Do i think the iphone will too, no but i do expect competition to knock down it's price to something along the lines of the treo and other smart phones/blackberries.

        Plus it seems like the iphone numbers are inflated. Along with the hype came hoards of people buying them for the sole purpose of reselling them. Although the actual # may be correct the numbers of X units in X days is distorted by the fact many of the sold phones won't actually get around to being used for weeks/months when they finally sell.
        • harbrut, on 10/11/2007, -0/+0The numbers aren't distorted. The 700,000 is an estimate of how many phones were sold. Not how many are being used.
      • slaguru, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Good point. I have a Razr as a standby phone, as it cost me $100 on pay as you go some time ago. If the iPhone reaches that point I will certainly have one.
    • drgmdp, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1no, that's comparing apples to motos
  • atb12688, on 10/11/2007, -22/+4It also makes the iPhone the stupidest mobile phone ever made...
  • bluechips23, on 10/11/2007, -9/+32Well guess what? Ballmer gets OWN'D!
    • B1663r, on 10/11/2007, -6/+2There is still a market for the windows mobile device. Apples offering looks uninterested in that market. This is a device that is going after the entry level handset market and Apple supposes that people are willing to shell out serious cash for a phone that is awsome. And from these sales numbers, I would have to say apple is right on.
  • turleh, on 10/11/2007, -13/+22am i the only one who thought the razr was ugly?
    • TomFrost, on 10/11/2007, -0/+6Now? Sure it is. It's far too common, it's blocky, it's hard to clean... but when it came out, everything else in its class was huge, clunky, twice to three times as thick, made a bulge in your pocket, were scratched-up plastic.. the RAZR was a pristine innovation in cellphone form, just like the iPhone is now.
    • MutatedNantuko, on 10/11/2007, -2/+1I thought it was far too expensive for "Just a phone" The Iphone is more than a phone, it's a PDA + Phone + iPod. Therefore it is worth, well, it's worth the cost.
    • drgmdp, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1no you're not. all its shape derivatives are ugly too. except for w220
  • Arch77, on 10/11/2007, -17/+8US you guys need religion or something. Spend lives in a box poking money into holes. Come visit The Bahamas, just get out of that rat race where iphone = life. Your life is bigger than an advertised product, than a commercial.

    You know what sucks? You're eagerly anticipating the iphone selling out, so you can say ooooooooooh it sold out -- get some class, look at some art. Then you'll say supply and demand and how everybody wants one and is rushing. Then you'll have an aha moment and shout Ebay! Trolls, you poor poor trolls.
  • spod111, on 10/11/2007, -6/+10Having a great product debut is like a movie having a record first weekend at the box office. It does not reflect the quality of the product (as nobody has experienced it yet) it just reflects the effectiveness of the hype. And in this case the hype was about the most effective ever - but lets see what ongoing sales do.
    • superkendall, on 10/11/2007, -2/+2Mondays continued sales reflect very much on them actually being in people's hands, and the word getting out they really are good phones. I know; I've seen the effect on people.
    • irishomac, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1I had two people from work who were waiting to buy an iPhone, they played with mine Yesterday. They both came in this morning with one.
    • Billions, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1I know what you mean, but I don't totally agree as you don't have to sign in to a 2-year contract to see a movie on opening weekend, so I think people took it more seriously and did more research than that analogy would extend to.
  • abes, on 10/11/2007, -3/+27and here I thought I was special .. there's 700,000 other assholes out there like me!?
    • AlrightMister, on 10/11/2007, -0/+5No sir, you are an individual among individuals.

      /Thanks for the laugh
  • axis, on 10/11/2007, -12/+2So people will pay this much for a phone but not for a PS3? And the PS3 is overpriced huh? Now we are going to have emo kids, rich kids and all other types of similar people parading the phones around. It was purchased for its "cool" factor, but usually the definition of cool is to go against the flow. ***** tools. Good marketing though, now we can see those cool Apple stickers on more then VW Bugs I guess. At least emo kids and the The Socs have something in common now.
    • LeonardNimrod, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2Since when is the PS3 not cool?

      The fact is you can't really compare the two One is a high-end gaming console the other is an iPod (which 100M people are familiar with), an internet communicator (which 1B people are familiar with and use regularly) and a cell phone (which 1B people are familiar with and use regularly).

      I know the PS3 costs more than it's being sold for. But like most people I am not a gamer and I have little use for Blu-ray at this time so spending $600 on a device I WILL NOT USE is pretty pointless.
    • armor, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2emo kids? where do the emo kids fit in? not really sure why they were mentioned..
  • tacklebox, on 10/11/2007, -17/+12We got an email from corportate IT on monday, the iphones are not secure enough for business use, therefore they will not be allowed on our network.
    • LeonardNimrod, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3Did they say how they are not secure? Since it's running OS X I assume they mean that they can't remotely erase data from the device. Which would be the only reason for alarm that I can think of.

      PS: There a locking PIN for the iPhone. Is is great for regular phones with number pads but I expect something more robust on the iPhone since it has a virtual display. I want to be able to put in a full fledged password at any length I choose.
  • ilyag, on 10/11/2007, -17/+10The Razr (in all its iterations) has sold 50 million units.

    The Nokia 1100 has sold 200 million units, and is the best-selling mobile phone in the world.

    This comparison is *****.
    • LeonardNimrod, on 10/11/2007, -1/+5One carrier.
      One country.
      One weekend.
      One phone.

      That is what is being compared. It's your grasp of logic that is *****.
      • ilyag, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Apple has an established cult of retards buying up every ***** piece of glossy plastic the company releases. Motorola does not.

        You ***** idiot.
  • guchdog, on 10/11/2007, -7/+6Remember when Razr was the big thing. Now it's going to be the iPhone and in a couple of months when your mom and her friends gets one you are going to be stuck with it for 2 years. I get a little chuckle thinking about that for everyone who buys it for the reason it's so cool. You know Apple is going to make a dumb down version that will sell for cheap but look pretty much the same.
    • harbrut, on 10/11/2007, -0/+0I understand your point, but it just doesn't apply in this case. That usually works because people bought something they thought looked cool. When that's the reason you buy something, you tend to dump it when the next "cool looking" thing comes around. Yes, the iPhone looks cool, the thing that differentiates it from the pack is that it functions dang near perfectly. The interface is just incredible. The LG Prada or whatever they're calling it looks cool too, but I'm guessing the phone isn't a dream to use like the iPhone is. The iPhone isn't going to go away when another "pretty" phone comes around. It's going to take a pretty phone that ALSO functions very, very well to dislodge this.
      • dasdef, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1yeah, and do to phones what the ipod did to mp3s
  • nexmachina, on 10/11/2007, -14/+7Are you ***** people stupid? Do you know how big the cell phone market is? Don't say Apple is killing, they haven't even touched the surface of the market. Let alone using ATT as a carrier! Please people stop being such dumbasses and do a little research. Damn fanboys.
    • mywhitenoise, on 10/11/2007, -3/+5No ***** it hasn't 'touched the surface', it's only been out for 4 days. Stupid.
  • srodolff, on 10/11/2007, -11/+6OK. Everyone who wanted an iPhone now has one. Who is going to buy the rest of the 9,300,000 by 2008? The rest of us non-KoolAid drinkers have already said "not me". The fact that a phone NEEDS to play music and movies is moot. That is what an iPod is for (not to mention that it is a HELLEVA lot cheaper and has TONS more space.

    BTW, a lot of Razrs got sold when the price dropped to less than $100. That will NEVER happen with the iPhone.
    • nexmachina, on 10/11/2007, -4/+4Not only that, but the fact that it's on ATT! That's the biggest rip off of all! Verizon, Sprint, and Tmobile are no better, but they sure as heck are better than ATT.
      • bashu, on 10/11/2007, -0/+8Verizon, Sprint, and Tmobile are no better, but they sure as heck are better?

        WTF?
    • CryoNine, on 10/11/2007, -2/+3I wish I had the ability to see in the future like you do. Must be cool to know what Apple is planning and what sort of price changes will be made to the iPhone. Also, just for the record, those that have the iPhone are about as cool as you are for saying "not me."
      • srodolff, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2It's not my ability, it is what Steve Jobs is forecasting. And I'm also stating an opinion that iPhones will never reach the sales level of Razrs unless the price dropped SIGNIFICANTLY.
        BTW, having a cellphone DOESN'T make you cool.
  • nhinsch, on 10/11/2007, -5/+3THIS IS AN ANALYST ESTIMATE AND IS PROBABLY INACCURATE!

    The actual number is also probably very impressive, but this estimate seems a stretch.
  • thinkfuture, on 10/11/2007, -8/+3so many people with more money than sense! your first clue was when people started waiting at the NY store almost a week in advance, while the SF Bay area stores were more leisurely. WE know 1.0 product when we see it...
  • artdiggzit, on 10/11/2007, -4/+38Try out an iPhone. You might just like it. I did. And I bought one! Very happy with it. Okay, I love it!!! Don't care about who sold how many whatever. As long as the consumers like what they purchased, all that matters, right?
  • supaflychica2, on 10/11/2007, -7/+9i cant wait to get mine
  • headstash, on 10/11/2007, -5/+54I guess I understand the iPhone haters for being sick of the hype, but I think a lot of you are missing the point here. Motorola has been a pillar of the moble telcom business since its inception and it took them how many releases of different phones to hit on a design that people had to buy? Apple, out of the gate, in an industry where they are totaly inexperienced, puts out a phone that outsells any other phone in the history. Hate the iPhone all you want, but you have to respect the achievement.
    • srodolff, on 10/11/2007, -7/+1No I don't. Do some research on P.T. Barnum sometime.
      • Billions, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2Maybe YOU should do some research... I assume you're referring to the 'sucker born every minute" quote, which was not actually said by him, but is often incorrectly attributed to him.
    • d3dm, on 10/11/2007, -5/+4Does Motorola have the fanboy factor though? I don't know of anyone that gets excited about everything Motorola does like the Apple fanatics do.

      • jeza, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Motorola phones are rubbish. That's why.
    • Exec, on 10/11/2007, -3/+6Fanboys may not be highly regarded on Digg, however I am quite sure major corporations would love to have 1/5 of the loyalty Apple inspires on their customer. Said loyalty eventually manifests in sales and that my friend is nothing to sneeze at.
    • deadbaby, on 10/11/2007, -1/+6The problem with Motorola is they cannot design a good user interface for mobile phones and adopting Windows Mobile (bleh) is hardly a step in the right direction.
    • tacojohn, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3Whats wrong with being a "fan" of a company? If moto had a fan base would you hate them too? Microsoft has a fan base- do you hate them? Everyone wants to hate on the most popular kid, but they're popular for a reason...
    • AndyCool, on 10/11/2007, -1/+1Have millions of AIRHEAD fanboys. Embed the functionality of your most popular product in the phone, create excessive hype & do a massive PR exercise....

      The results are logical.

      what do you think...if Apple fanatics can buy a technological-shame like iPod Shuffle in throes, iPhone sales shudnt be a surprise at all.
  • guchdog, on 10/11/2007, -18/+6You know I really used to like Apple. I really did. All the propaganda and the fanboys have just drove me to hate them now. I never hated Microsoft this much.
    • Storm9, on 10/11/2007, -3/+9Apple did nothing you moron. It was the blogs, the press, and the internet that created the iPhone hype. Apple didnt buy full page ad spreads in newspapers or Superbowl commerocals. All they did was release TV ads that showed what the iPhone can do. thats it! WTF are you talking about? Apple propaganda?
      • guchdog, on 10/11/2007, -4/+4Did you ***** read what I typed? I said all the propaganda (that means blogs, press, internet) and the fanboys (you stupid) are the reasons why I hate Apple now! It's not just about the iPhone.
        • DaffyDuck, on 10/11/2007, -2/+2So you are going to punish Apple for something they didn't do? Makes sense.
    • adude, on 10/11/2007, -1/+7Propaganda? You mean, like PR, word-of-mouth buzz, and advertising?

      Yeah, because *only* Apple uses these marketing tools to make a profit.
    • guchdog, on 10/11/2007, -4/+3Uh... yeah but they aren't accompanied with a legion of fanboys. That's why I said propaganda and fanboys which means both. That's why I said them both. Let me be more clear, because of both not just one or the other I hate Apple. Propaganda with believers is a much bigger deal, otherwise its just talk. Got it?
    • thailand1972, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1I just find the fanboys really really sad individuals
    • Billions, on 10/11/2007, -1/+1Maybe you're just on the internet too much - Apple's products and software are still good.
  • hourog, on 10/11/2007, -3/+5Well, Apple will just have to make more............. unless they are already sitting in a warehouse somewhere.
  • mal1964, on 10/11/2007, -4/+5Don't forget to add up what Apple paid for marketing, I'm guessing its significantly more than the Razr.
    • dag68, on 10/11/2007, -1/+2Don't be so sure. They ran a bunch of commercials but not a crazy blitz. Most of the marketing was free publicity - probably half of it from John C. Dvorak!
      • vacuum2440, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1you've got to be kidding, apple got so much free publicity from fanboys and just people in general who were pumped for this release...they have played some commercials obviously but lets be serious, apple never has to market for a product because the consumers do it for them! cudos for apple and having such loyal fans and customers, im one of them :D
  • TorrentFox, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Boo (anti/)fanboyism. Hooray Beer!
  • AbelVoicu, on 10/11/2007, -4/+1Where the hell do these people get all this money? Don't they have bills to pay and kids to feed? I mean come on, it's $600 WITH a 2-year contract.

    Don't get me wrong, I think it's a great phone, but six hundred dollars worth on top of thousands during the two years? Hell no!
    • rebotfc, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1They just have a better job than you.
  • frsrblch, on 10/11/2007, -4/+1Idiots act in numbers. Next time Apple does something, I buy some stock. 5% on a day is nothing to laugh at.
  • modifiedbears, on 10/11/2007, -1/+4There are far too many shortcomings for me to spend $600 on it.
    • harbrut, on 10/11/2007, -0/+0I've read about all those shortcomings you're talking about, and yet the iPhone is the best phone I've ever owned. It's the only phone I've actually thought was fun to use. Plus the sound quality is excellent. It's way better than any of my other phones, especially my Treo. bleh
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