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- hookshotzz, on 10/11/2007, -7/+91Apple always finds a way for me to want a new laptop... dammit
- Chicken2nite, on 10/11/2007, -5/+65Is there any difference between "multi-touch" and the trackpad on the macbooks in terms of the hardware? Is this just a software update that would lead to all macbooks now sporting this function? Not that I'm really all that curious
- actorboy, on 10/11/2007, -10/+60Buried as inaccurate, i.e., a rumor submitted as fact.
- wafflez, on 10/11/2007, -3/+25Yea considering that on my sister's macbook, i can scroll with two fingers, I'm pretty sure that a software update can enable other gestures as well.
- geminitojanus, on 10/11/2007, -0/+20"Is there any difference between "multi-touch" and the trackpad on the macbooks in terms of the hardware?"
The sensor acquisition hardware is constructed different basically. Most touchpads on cheap laptops are resistive sensors, which just gives you an absolute magnitude resistance value on the x and y axises. Apple's trackpads and several other newer trackpads that are emerging on the market are capacitive sensors, which give you a magnitude of the change in capacitance at a fixed location (and it's read like a RAM device). However, just because a sensor is capacitive, doesn't necessarily guarantee it can do multi-touch. The second requirement is that your sensor acquisition hardware is either really dumb and just reports the value for each capacitive domain, or it has to be really intelligent and have registers which collect the information, and give it to the computer in some kind of coherent way.
Macbooks and Macbook Pros would need a sensor update, as the one they've got is "too dumb" to do multi-touch. - ROFLance, on 10/11/2007, -5/+19it would be badass if the touchpad was a secondary OLED screen/touchpad combo.
- bloaty, on 10/11/2007, -2/+14MacBooks already have something SIMILAR that allows multi-touch gestures like two finger scrolling, maybe with some firmware hacking we could get the pinch zoom and rotation!
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -1/+11Don't hold on the macbook purchase- get a MacBook Pro now with the educational discount. you'll never regret it.
My thinking is that it'll be a gesture type system possibly included in Leopard? Makes sense, no?
If not, then it's possibly an LCD that they want to put in as the trackpad, such as Toshiba has done in the past. - uptown, on 10/11/2007, -1/+11Funny ... They seem to constantly be giving me reasons to wait a few more months before I buy one of theirs...
- crazybrit, on 10/11/2007, -3/+12Honestly, isn't a trackpad fine? Is being able to pinch your photos going to make anyone more productive? It works great on the iPhone, but I wouldn't particularly want it on a laptop.
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -1/+9My Toshiba Satellite has basically something like this where the trackpad also serves as an lcd pad with some basic and cool function built right in.
I'm kinda pissed cause i just bought a Macbook Pro, but I don't think this would have made me wait :) as long as they dont update the GPU or case i'm happy - BrainInAJar, on 10/11/2007, -4/+12god i hope not
that would such a pain in the ass to use.
I use an IBM Model 'M' for a reason... i /need/ tactile feedback - jm1234567890, on 10/11/2007, -2/+9He was saying multi-touch on the touchpad not the screen.
- Squidly, on 10/11/2007, -0/+7That's what I get for skimming. :P I deserve the dig downs...
- SaxonXXX, on 10/11/2007, -0/+7You can already scroll, up and down, left and right, select text, drag and drop, bring up the contextual menus, click and double click just using the track pad on the Macbook and Macbook Pro's. I use it all the time, you don't need to touch the track pad button at all, if you don't wish.
- fichek, on 10/11/2007, -0/+6That's so lame. Has the person who wrote that ***** ever even used a macbook or even a powerbook? I doubt it. "Just having it for flipping though your iTunes Library" What stops you from doing it right now? Oh noes, you have to use 2 fingers to do it! Like apple is ever gonna make trackpad that will do it with 1 finger...I mean c'mon, how would a mac know if you wanna move a mouse or just flip in cowerflow? It would be the same as moving your mouse right or left over the cowerflow part of window...and it would be just damn anoying. But yeah, I think most of the iPhone's gestures should be possible even with powerbook's good old trackpad.
Putting multi-touch in powerbook's display..now that would be something new and cool...but I'm afraid that won't happen so soon, if ever. - xspinkickx, on 10/11/2007, -0/+6any one got the answer I am wondering if I should hold on the mabook purchase.
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -3/+8Man what kind of ***** speculation is this?
- 48h69h, on 10/11/2007, -0/+5Since I found you very annoying, diggboy101, I have decided to pick your less than intelligant responce apart, Bit. By. Bit.
"It's people like this on digg that piss me off!"
Well, its people like YOU on digg that piss me off. Ignorant, arrogant, and stubborn.
"We are all into tech and know big words"
Apparently you aren't, he didn't really use that "big" of words...
"But there's no reason for you to show off..."
He's showing off by explaining to us how stuff works? according to you, is everyone who puts any of their abilities to work to help the world showing off?
"By flaunting that stuff!"
He isn't "flaunting that stuff", he's using the words he finds necessary and most descriptive.
"I bet you just looked in a thesaurus anyways.."
Actually, for your information, there ARE people in the world who have a vocabulary greater than yours. And, if it was so hard for you to comprehend his writing, why didn't you use a dictionary?
Wow. - noeljohnhoward, on 10/11/2007, -0/+5RTA, its not about touch screen macbooks;...
- JerodSlay, on 10/11/2007, -0/+5What are the gestures on the iPhone?::: the pinch zoom for photos. That's it, everything else is non-multi-touch, ergo, no need for an update. I don't understand this article at all.
- mouthster, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4Very informative, thanks for your post!
- JarekB, on 10/11/2007, -1/+5If you read geminitojanus's other posts you'd know that he's one of the more intelligent/technical digg users. All the ones I've read give a very detailed explanation of the topic being discussed and actually add value to the thread unlike your response.
- crazybrit, on 10/11/2007, -2/+6But he always says that.
- jeff303, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4My old Toshiba notebook (5105-S607) from 2002 had the Synaptic cPad which was cool and had built in applications (like calculator, etc.) When I recently got a MBP I thought I would miss that, but in reality I never used it much; it was Windows-only and I liked to use Ubuntu, it had to open a background process, etc.
The idea could work if they invest some more time in it. Maybe you could have widgets on there instead of having to use the Dashboard? - pauldy, on 10/11/2007, -1/+4This is some kids inaccurate rant about gestures and not multitouch itself which has been in macbooks for some time now. This would be a software update and a likely possibility for the leopard release and not just the macbooks that may or may not arrive with the release of leopard.
- Iccanui, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3buried, this guy has no clue and is making a guess on something he wants to see. Its cool, but its not proven.
- damnyooneek, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3apple is robbing me blind!
- prisoner24601, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3I believe you're thinking of a different concept. I think this isn't another touch-interface method for your primary 14" LCD on your notebook, it's about making the 2" mouse touchpad under your keyboard no longer a blank black rectangle, but a full-color touchpad. The idea is that you could have many different possible "modes" or "shortcuts" available.
- applebyte, on 10/11/2007, -1/+4UNsubstantiated. UNconfirmed. UNinformed. UNreasonable. UNtrue. And I would UNDigg this if I could. But the best I can do is bury it as inaccurate. UNfortunately, I can't bury it as being lame also.
- wspence, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2I love Macs but really....Call me when you incorporate it unto a touch screen tablet notebook.
- lordpanik, on 10/08/2009, -0/+2"Apple is all about the consistent delivery of technology"
a mind soaked with advertisements - ChromaVita, on 10/11/2007, -3/+5I don't think they could use all the same gestures as the iPhone does. When i use the track pad on my Macbook, I use my middle finger on the pad, and my thumb on the (one) mouse button. I use both my pointer finger and middle finger to scroll. I don't see a way that i could comfortably "Pinch" to zoom in or out, or anything like that. If they find a way to make it useful, and then release it as a firmware update, then I will be interested.
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -6/+8Well that pretty much covers ALL apple/mac stories submitted to digg doesn't it!
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.hardwarezone.com/img/data/articles/2003/789/Overview.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.hardwarezone.com/articles/view.php%3Fid%3D789&h=300&w=400&sz=12&hl=en&start=20&um=1&tbnid=d5Adz53VIHrU8M:&tbnh=93&tbnw=124&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dtoshiba%2Bblue%2Bsatellite%2Bsubwoofer%26svnum%3D10%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26sa%3DG
Been done, I have it - it's only monochrome and pretty useless. - Shorties, on 10/11/2007, -2/+4I actually agree with Zybch, when they announced the Mighty Mouse I was hopeing they would use that touch technology in their laptops as well. If you hit it on the left half of the trackpad button it would be a left click and right half would be a right click. (And obviously give the option to customize or turn it off just like with the mighty mouse).
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -2/+4It may very well be a deliberate design choice, but it makes doing things far slower, especially for people used to other OSes like windows or the various flavors of Linux where a right-click (as opposed to going to an option menu and then selecting choice) is fast, easy and overall, intuitive. Left-click to select or run, and right-click to see what other options are available for whatever you clicked on.
- ravi7791, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Up for sale, 2ghz CD macbook pro :)
I find myself "pinching" my fingers sometimes when viewing photos in iPhoto. The iPhone thing is getting on to me. Two finger scroll is amazing. I don't see where Apple would could use this other than resizing photos though. - nfxmedia, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Sorry, "theoretically supposed to" have multi-touch doesn't really have me excited yet. When it's confirmed, then I'll be excited.
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Woah, buy a macbook and use the two-touch for right clicking for a week. You come to realize that it is the greatest invention and makes it so much quicker and faster then fumbling trying to find the right-button. I've gone and used my other laptops and it's now cumbersome trying to right click in windows.
- dotdan, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1"would of had"
- brstilson, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Touch screens are a bad idea for this application. It's as if no one has ever heard of fingerprints. You'll be breaking out the Windex twice a day.
- samdu, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1It's actually no more or less "intuitive" then right clicking a mouse button. You're just USED to right clicking a mouse button. There's no law set in stone that says that menus are accessed via a RMB click. And as has been mentioned, it takes all of a couple of hours, tops, to get used to the difference.
- Firehed, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Holy taxes, where did you buy?
Then again, I cheated and live in NH. $599 exactly for me :) - Squidly, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Tablet PCs are different. I was referring to laptops and desktop monitors.
- petedee, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Lame, i just ordered my first macbook and now I find its gonna be out of date as soon as I get it....
Damn you apple!
** shakes fist like an old man ** - StarManta, on 10/11/2007, -2/+3Macbooks ALREADY have multitouch trackpads, doofuses. And two-finger scrolling is just about the extent of convenient gestures one would possibly be able to do on it.Try "pinching" your trackpad. Go on...I'll wait. Doesn't feel the slightest bit natural, now does it? Now do the same on your iPhone. It works because the multitouch is ON THE SCREEN. Which is another bag of rice entirely, and multitouch on real computers' screens is something I'm very intersted in. But the trackpad? ***** that.
- jasonpoon, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1I am going to purchase the new MacBook Pro after Leopard release, the back to school offer is not that attractive when I can get the new OS X and iLife (I suppose there will be new iLife in October) pre-installed.
Hope they will put the feature in MBP also. - danpat, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1As much as I like the idea of this....buried as inaccurate for being sheer unfounded speculation
- wspence, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Finger socks dude I'm surprised we haven't seen them yet really. Anyway they're talking about doing this on the touch pad. Not the screen.
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