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- xsecretfiles, on 02/10/2009, -0/+39.....Yet it's assembled in China
- fungie5, on 02/10/2009, -5/+24FTA - "Another sticking point was that the App Store requires the use of a credit card, whereas most customers in China pay by depositing money into their mobile phone accounts."
This is one of the reasons why the iPhone will never be the success that it could be. Most people around the world pay for apps through their phone companies - a simple deduction is made to their balance. Using credit cards for everything is the American way, not the global way. - zenmeyang, on 02/10/2009, -1/+14I wouldn't trust a mobile phone company with their own app store. Especially China. I live in China and get to witness the POS phones and their accompany POS software at work. If you think Chinese merchandise is low quality in the states. You should get a load of the stuff that doesn't make it out of the country. Letting China Mobile have that much control of the iPhone infrastructure would tarnish the experience. They would just screw it up and make the phone not as usable. Apple should definitely stick to their guns on this one.
- DreamVsPs2, on 02/10/2009, -4/+16Let them play with their stupid iPhone clones.
- saisumimen, on 02/10/2009, -0/+7You mean charging interest rates on interest on interest on interest... was a BAD idea?
- kreatre2007, on 02/10/2009, -0/+6Eh... Screw China Mobile. It's crap like this that make people unlock iPhones. The iPhone would be a runaway success in China but, these stupid restrictions won't allow that.
- Balanced, on 02/10/2009, -1/+6You can probably use a debit card with the iTunes Store... it's just not recommended as many feel debit cards are more vulnerable to fraud.
- Trifold, on 02/10/2009, -0/+5Isn't it ironic?
- Sharik, on 02/10/2009, -0/+4Yes, yes it is...
- colincornaby, on 02/10/2009, -1/+5I don't think it's a huge deal. There isn't any reason why Apple couldn't link the app store with a carrier's billing process. The bigger deal is that the China Mobile wants to control the entire store, which is completely insane. Apple does a bad enough job of running it, and they're supposed to hand it to a carrier with no Mac/iPhone development experience? A censor laden Chinese carrier no less?
- 1jaxstate1, on 02/10/2009, -1/+5Thus the financial ***** we in are today.
- billbugger, on 02/10/2009, -5/+9Who cares!?!
- mrBitch, on 02/11/2009, -1/+4@ klowngoblin RE: " funny since china makes the iphone, i guess your calling that a POS too. "
Yet you then completely negate your idiotic comment with your next sentence :
" you forget china makes both low and high quality stuff.. "
You really are an idiot. - kevincw01, on 02/11/2009, -0/+3ya just wait until little Lee Chu decides to take the schematics to the warehouse next door where his brother works.....can you say "ePhone" or "iFone"?
- pikelet, on 02/11/2009, -0/+3Yeah, but if you can buy apps directly from your phone's account balances (that's what they mean - either from your prepaid credit or as an addition on your monthly bill), it encourages impulse purchases. There's no 'oh, well I'll go buy a gift card' or 'well ***** that's going to add to my credit card balance', it's 'well I have $20 of credit and this app is 99c, I can always top up more later!'.
- zenmeyang, on 02/12/2009, -0/+2@ klowngoblin
China has two standards when it comes to manufacturing. The good one where it exports and the ***** ones that are for domestic consumption. So the iPhone isn't a POS since it's meant to be sold overseas. Factories here can make good stuff, they just choose not to for domestic sales because it's cheaper. I didn't contradict myself, it's just how things are here. - 3k4M, on 02/10/2009, -1/+3That's the Japanese. It's like traveling into the future if you ever visit Tokyo. They get like 10 or so TV channels on there phones... it's crazy.
- daftman, on 02/11/2009, -0/+2you meant the us? I don't know man!
- SniperZero, on 02/10/2009, -0/+2epic fail?
- ultraseamus, on 02/10/2009, -1/+3Uhhh, no?
- oriondr, on 02/11/2009, -0/+2China's government has a monopoly on brutally controlling its software.
- Gareth321, on 02/10/2009, -1/+3It's like ten thousand spoons, when all you need is a knife.
- seenxu, on 02/10/2009, -0/+2you are so ignorant, you know nothing about china.
- HappyScrappy, on 02/11/2009, -0/+2It's not every day I agree with China, but one company being the only retailer of apps for a platform is wrong.
- zeromerk, on 02/10/2009, -0/+2Nope. It's never good news to hear your potential market is smaller than it could be. Even if the cost outweighs benefits, this news (at best) means only the absence of bad news. Hardly worth celebrating.
- seenxu, on 02/10/2009, -0/+2who cares?!
iphone had been already available in china since 1st gen.
The device costs at about $570 without contract. - zakool21, on 02/10/2009, -1/+3Apple's model seems to be working fine!
Methinks one of the main reasons China Mobile is so worried about Apple selling their apps directly to consumers is that it's harder for the Chinese government to censor what people have on their phones! Ehh? Ehh? - warriorscot, on 02/10/2009, -3/+5The clones will probably be better than the real thing soon enough. Or actually be the real thing.
- supersteve, on 02/10/2009, -2/+3i live in Canada and have an iPhone, sucks for the Chinese people but they probably already have something way more advanced
- clickmyface, on 02/10/2009, -3/+4The argument isnt about payment method. If they can deposit money into their phone accounts they can do it in iTunes too. iTunes takes paypal, paypal works directly with bank account. iTunes gift cards work directly with itunes and you can pay cash and buy apps. iTunes is not "just credit cards."
"This is one of the reasons why the iPhone will never be the success that it could be."
Yeah, no. Their store model will be the new standard. Just like it should be.
- jdmCrush, on 02/11/2009, -0/+1What the hell is it with this country!?
- qhan7, on 02/10/2009, -1/+2So?
- HamNCheese, on 02/10/2009, -0/+1The one opportunity we have to have China sending money to the US....and we blow it.
- klowngoblin, on 02/11/2009, -2/+3funny since china makes the iphone, i guess your calling that a POS too.
you forget china makes both low and high quality stuff, they put a man into space FFS, you have to have a certian level of quality to do that.
also try comparing a true chinese made MP3 player to a north american player
oh wait their all made in china... (Zune, Sansa, Zen, Ipods) - deanc, on 07/04/2009, -0/+1Now that China Mobile has opened up their app store to 500m users are any of you going to be submitting your apps for international consumption?
http://www.mmarket.com/
Interesting to see they are offering applications for multiple Mobile OS's and with the China Mobile O phone coming out in 2 months i expect that a lof of the apps will be heavily weighted towards Android (O phone is a HTC android with custom os).
China Mobile are keeping 50% of all app sales as commission but with 500,000,000 end customers....they get to call the shots (big enough that they still haven't given into Steve Jobs at Apple - people think China Mobile is crazy that they still haven't come to terms on the rev model splits with Apple so have kept the iphone out of China, lol crazy like a fox i think, with the Ophone now just months away China Mobile doesn't care if one of the smaller carriers pick it up now).
Cheers,
Dean
Considering i still own the domains http://www.MobileAppStore.com + .net + .org + .mobi it's an interesting space to keep watching. - yan89, on 02/11/2009, -0/+1At least comment and explain why you buried my post....
- pikelet, on 02/11/2009, -1/+2No, what they mean is that the money comes out of your phone's prepaid credit balance or appears as a charge on your monthly bill. It can really trick you sometimes as it feels like it's not 'real money' in a way.
- seenxu, on 02/10/2009, -0/+1yes, they don't care.
- funsutton, on 02/11/2009, -0/+1Thanks to the app store?
Or thanks to the oppressive Chinese government. - googleabcd, on 02/10/2009, -3/+3China mobile has 500 million subscribers, larger than the number of customers of most mobile companies in the world combined. Do you think they really care about the revenue of selling Iphone?
- kevincw01, on 02/11/2009, -1/+1can you use the app store or does the great FIREwall block their IP block?
- mrBitch, on 02/11/2009, -1/+1I think your comment was buried with your idiotic comment RE: " the fakes often have more and better features anyways..."
If you have ever actually USED a fake iPhone, you would understand that the fakes are WORSE and have shockingly bad build quality.
You get what you pay for... - BlueStarr, on 02/11/2009, -1/+1Thanks to the App Store? wtf? No you can thank the lack of freedom in China for that!
- yan89, on 02/11/2009, -2/+2I own the iPhone 2G and I'm really happy with it, a friend of mine has some sort of fake though and it doesn't quite look like the iPhone anymore when you look close enough, it does however have some nice features that mine does not: OGG, WMA, 2 sim cards, ...
The only thing missing is the AppStore and Cydia... which is a real bummer.
The iPhone should have OGG playback tough, the real one I mean. - waydee, on 02/10/2009, -3/+3Most cellphones are years ahead of the iPhone.
- mrBitch, on 02/11/2009, -1/+1No, China Mobile blew it, since China Mobile wants FULL CONTROL of the App Store. Apple already has problems with their approval process, and you think it's a good idea to put China Mobile into the App approval process AS WELL?
You are an idiot. - Malarie, on 02/11/2009, -1/+1Of course there will be no iphones.. these chineess mofos already have the ifone, the hiphone, the ifong and the high-fon, zzall made by haphole compooter.cn
- mikeserv, on 02/10/2009, -2/+2I love the China news icon. Angry, uniformed commies always make my day.
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