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- lieutenantmudd, on 10/11/2007, -7/+86How did you come up with that 200+ million number? I realize the iPhone has huge margins, but profit does not equal units sold x percent margin x price. Apple has invested years and millions of dollars into this phone. They have not turned a profit in five days.
- epyon180, on 10/11/2007, -15/+63You know I had a first generation hard drive creative mp3 player that did everything that the ipod did but I wonder why I never use it. I remember.... because it SUCKS. Many phones that are older than the iPhone can do everything that the iphone can ( Nokia N95- Mp3 player, 5 MP camera, Wi-Fi, etc). But thats not the point; the point is that the iphone has a great UI and it just works, I don't care how much you hate apple but you have to be stupid and ignorant to think that cell phone software is great right now. I am sick of comments on digg every-time a iphone story comes up saying something like "My _______ phone already does all that and it's ___$ cheaper than the iphone" . Thats the same argument people try to make saying that iPods don't have things like FM tuners etc, those arguments don't work because people that buy iPods don't buy it because of extra features, they buy it because it is easy to use and syncs up very nicely with itunes, Thats exactly how the iphone works.
- s0lace, on 10/11/2007, -11/+37What do you think the next BIG fad on digg will be? For awhile there it was wii vs ps3, then Ubuntu, then Ron Paul, then iPhone...
- brycelb, on 10/11/2007, -7/+29Who gives a damn what the profits are after 5 days, 700,000 units (if that holds up) is absolutely insane. This has to be the most successful mobile phone launch to date. People get into Jobs for many different reasons but he has brought Apple back to life in a big way, he did the same for Disney's entertainment products, and now AT&T may be kissing his ass all the way to the bank.
- garbs, on 10/11/2007, -2/+21Smart move Verizon...this could have been you
- Kindjal, on 10/11/2007, -7/+25Buried for being old news, duplicate and not accurate as no one knows what the real production costs are. The parts may cost around $200 but that does not include actually producing the phone, distribution and development cost.
- gmuirhead, on 10/11/2007, -20/+38I wonder what the actual figure is!!!!!
- need4speed, on 10/11/2007, -6/+22$500 for a phone is nothing.. i laughed at those who paid 1k for nokia 8800..
- archcvd, on 10/11/2007, -9/+22Wow, could you comment have been any stupider?!
- HappyScrappy, on 10/11/2007, -1/+14These are not Apple or AT&T reported sales figures, just another report of another analyst's estimates.
Marked as inaccurate. - lopla, on 10/11/2007, -4/+16Pretty good sales figures for a flop of a product. I bet Ballmer threw another chair across the room.
- CraigJ, on 10/11/2007, -5/+17don't digg him down, the story has been updated to indicate that the figures may not be actual...
FTA: Update: corrected reference to figures. The 700,000 figure may be another analyst figure according to a comment, although other places are reporting the 700,000 as the actual figure. - cybermort, on 10/11/2007, -2/+11Apple to Verizon
Can you hear me Now! - diblasio, on 10/11/2007, -2/+11Funky fruit hats!
- Aleks, on 10/11/2007, -0/+9iPhone versus Zune Phone.
- frogpelt, on 10/11/2007, -3/+12At $50/month x 24 months, AT&T will gross about $850,000,000 out of this deal.
And that's just off the first weekend's sales. - normalkid, on 10/11/2007, -14/+22This is inaccurate. more analyst numbers.
- DaffyDuck, on 10/11/2007, -3/+9Something I've done...oh....never! I have a Windows smartphone and when I got it I sent text messages to my wife a few times then realized it wasn't worth the effort or money. I'd rather talk to her anyway. Some of us don't care about sending text messages to one person, let alone multiple people.
- SohailKhanifar, on 10/11/2007, -4/+10One more exclamation point would have gotten you the answer.
- norbiu, on 10/11/2007, -1/+7Stop digging them: http://digg.com/users/MaXPL/news/dugg
- kidhifi, on 10/11/2007, -3/+9Congrats Apple!
- WiseWeasel, on 10/11/2007, -5/+10Figuring a 50% margin ($250-300 profit per unit), 700,000 units is $175M - $210M... not too shabby... That goes a ways towards paying back for the R&D.
- mabhatter, on 10/11/2007, -1/+6That's huge numbers for something that everybody already has. That's bigger than PS3, nearly as big as the first month of Wii shipments. And Apple has MORE on the way to sell.
I think people are so used to manufacturing problems that cause companies to do paper launches and spin the shortage in to marketing hype, they don't get it when a company executes and delivers the product, nearly on time, in sufficient quantity. The last half dozen big tech products have been awful. I think Apple is again changing the game back to Business and not the hype about what they're going to do or how much they're going to make. - inactive, on 10/11/2007, -1/+5Because most people on Digg don't understand that profit is more than just (sale price - BOM price) x units. The same lametards use this method to show how Blizzard is making $127 million a month (8.5 million x $15). It's junior high accounting.
- euro22, on 12/17/2008, -0/+4Looks like its about impeaching Bush.
- moofer, on 10/11/2007, -1/+5yes, I really think they will offer software updates, you worthless choad. Have you ever seen how many OS updates have been released without forcing the purchase of a new computer? Have you seen how many code updates for iPods have come out that didn't force the purchase of a new iPod? The brilliance of the iPhone is that everything is controlled by software, and therefore changeable/upgradable at any moment through a software update. You're such an ignorant stain.
- DaffyDuck, on 10/11/2007, -1/+5"just because you dont do it, doesn't mean someone else doesn't"
That was exactly my point. Some people need feature x and some people don't. The ones that don't might buy the iPhone and that doesn't make them stupid. It's the best media phone right now, bar none. Big screen, 8GB memory, iTunes integration. Other phones, even ones from Sony, are lacking in this arena. - CraigJ, on 10/11/2007, -3/+7You people are silly. if you don't wanna read it, don't click the link. Problem solved.
- VMark, on 10/11/2007, -4/+8ZZZ
- CraigJ, on 10/11/2007, -2/+6with a name like hackmyballs, it has to be good...
- CraigJ, on 10/11/2007, -2/+6R&D, etc is usually G&A or overhead, but you are right, it would be more proper to refer to it a gross profit, and before taxes at that.
- daridave, on 10/11/2007, -2/+6!
there, now tell me. - dustinmacdonald, on 10/11/2007, -2/+6Have you actually used iTunes?
- mal1964, on 10/11/2007, -1/+5Or a Maserati with a AM radio.
- ausfahrt, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3Apparently people are still paying 600 and up for that phone on ebay! :P Go figure ... it's a piece of crap compared to what is out now.
- s0ny, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3First off, anyone who doesnt think Apple will release free software updates for the iPhone is stupid. First, they changed the AppleTV and iPhone to be factored in a subscription based way for their earnings. So you buy an iPhone now for 600$ but that money gets spread out over 24 months since they are going to put in time and money to keep progressing the current iPhone. Secondly, they make a percentage of AT&T's monthly charges. So there is a vested interested in keeping the customer happy with their iPhone and its Data plan for the full 24 months. Apple has always delivered free updates for all software they make, and the only radical things you will need to purchase an iPhone v2 for is GPS capabilities, and 3G.
- Me1000, on 10/11/2007, -3/+6is that why your number (15%) is brown, and covered in *****?
- ausfahrt, on 10/11/2007, -7/+10So this means almost 50% profit per iPhone. I dunno sounds a little messed ...
- wildsnake, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3At least I'm one of the 700,000 people who can afford the iI iAm iSo iCool iPhone and the next one too
- james2die4, on 10/11/2007, -2/+5What I really want to see is Michael Dell's take on the iPhone. (And the valuation of Apple v Dell...)
- theblt, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3Dramatic Prairie Dog?
- angstybagels, on 10/11/2007, -3/+6and the millions of americans who are not rich consumer whores
- superkendall, on 10/11/2007, -1/+4It's not at all slow when on WiFi. And EDGE is fine for light browsing, or for using Google Maps (which is the main use for it for me on the go).
It's so nice to use, even when it's on the slower EDGE it's still better than anything else for browsing. - inactive, on 10/11/2007, -1/+4I bet you some of the glaring bugs are fixed in software updates, but the huge omission of features will be fixed in the next iPhone.
- DMDekoth, on 10/11/2007, -0/+22$ says Global Cooling in the near future.
- scotty1024, on 10/11/2007, -1/+3The article also doesn't state any ratio for 4GB vs 8GB nor allowance for 14 day returns nor for DOA's and the one unit that was replaced by Apple where the owner accidentally slammed it into the corner of a table.
Amateur with Digg insider buddies to pump it up. As if we didn't have enough iPhone hype already. - torifile, on 10/11/2007, -2/+4What 5 year old tech are you talking about? The multi-touch screen? OS X? Native PDF rendering of all UI elements for seamless zooming? The iPod tech in there? Google Maps? My cell from 2002 surely had all that and more.
- torifile, on 10/11/2007, -1/+3And look at what it did Tuesday when this stuff was announced. Up $6/share. Hmm. Down $.50 on Monday only to bounce up $6 the following day. Yeah. That's awful.
- Colesif, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2Well I can say that there will be about a 85% chance Digg will be flooded in October upon the release of OS X leopard. Comparing and contrasting it with Vista or even possibly KDE 4 on whatever flavor of Linux. as that is due to come out soon.
- Billions, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2You might want to use one before you make that analogy. The activation process alone (mine took 7 minutes through iTunes, at home) is evolution in a stiff industry that is already being changed by Apple stepping in.
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