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- LordofChaosIori, on 10/10/2007, -0/+21Holy crap that was racist. I'm just shocked right now... O_O
- xxdesmus, on 10/10/2007, -0/+19niggnation ...please die. Seriously, just die. We don't need ***** like you in the gene pool.
- amber565, on 10/10/2007, -1/+18This worked for me on WinXP with iTunes 7.4.1. No Jailbreaking or having to pay for programs. Finally a simple solution for ringtones for windows users. The command line stuff isn't all that difficult if you just follow the directions & the PDF walk through provided in the Atomic Parsley download. If you need to convert mp3 to m4a just use dbpoweramp & download the codec for aac encoding. Literally took just minutes. Hopefully it will last!
- dcipjr, on 10/10/2007, -1/+15Xanga?!
- theNEOone, on 10/10/2007, -0/+12....This can't be a serious post. How much of an idiot do you actually have to be to refuse somebody's GOOD advice, simply because of the fact that they're black. Wow, just wow.
- ThreeDee912, on 10/10/2007, -0/+9Maybe I'll whip up a simple app to automate this...
- meatmcguffin, on 10/10/2007, -1/+8Nope :P I'm British and we refer to companies as plurals as they're seen as a collection rather than an entity.
- kajoob, on 10/10/2007, -3/+9The ultimate test of whether Apple's statement about "we don't care if you hack the iphone" was ***** or not will be if the next update of iTunes breaks this hack or leaves it alone.
- rgodfrey, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6A nice bit of detective work. Well done, gryphon/cleverboy!
- drlha, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6Apple didn't say they "don't care if you hack the iPhone", they said they have a neutral stance on 3rd Party iPhone Apps. That statement has nothing to do with Ringtones.
- TheCount, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6Might I say, I am totally digging that Dr. Huxtable sweater!
- inactive, on 10/25/2007, -1/+7I figured you were American :) Digg should include country flags next to their names so I know when and when not to correct people's poor English skills
- owanderhoffe, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5you can also use itunes to convert to m4a. if your preferences are set to import as m4a, you can right-click any non-m4a song and choose "convert selection to m4a"
- cleverboy, on 10/10/2007, -1/+6That's how I feel. If this was the ONLY thing they changed in 7.4.1, I can actually understand it. While you can distinguish an audiobook by listening to it, ringtones are just a bunch of chopped up audio files. I don't think the extension *should* be enough. If they change things to now require something else... it'll be pretty clear they're out of touch.
- ntnwwnet, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5User reported to digg. Go shoot yourself niggnation.
- Satanael, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5My terrific sense of humor fails to find this funny... D: Reported.
- meatmcguffin, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5I had the exact same thought reading through the comments on the color / colour story
Although i would hate to think how ridiculous the flame wars would get :P - cleverboy, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4Blog commenter Zach has apparently got the Mac covered
for drag-and-drop simplicity with his droplet:
http://rapidshare.com/files/55277622/MakeRingtone.zip.html
Kudos, Zach. Now we just need Windows drag-and-drop. (Grr, if I wasn't so busy) - spankaccount, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4What if you don't want to Jailbreak because you have a life and don't want to be messing with your iPhone every time there is a OS update?
- cleverboy, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3It's not that hard, but I guess the question is... will Apple want to make it so that ALL ringtones on the iPhone require DRM? I don't think they want to go there. This way, they have the option of having companies generate iPhone ringtones of their own, and catar to their iPhone userbase. It would almost be like refusing to play songs ripped from a CD (because they sell songs on iTunes), although I agree they've ample incentive to figure out something more prohibitive if they felt it was appropriate.
- Firehed, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3Yeah, aside from it not being anything new, it's still better than the rest of the cell phone industry. Regardless, you're LEGALLY ALLOWED to make ringtones for free from music you've purchased - there's a specific note about ringtones in the fair use act. Considering most places want to charge $2.50+ for just the ringtone and this gets you the song plus a custom ringer for $2 (with much less hassle by my understanding; I've never purchased a ringtone so can't say firsthand), it's not that bad of a deal.
What I know for sure is that changing a bit of metadata in order to get ringtones on my iPhone (or just syncing them over normally as normal tracks and using the SendSong app I installed) is a hell of a lot easier than what I had to do for my old Verizon piece of *****. With that thing, after buying the cable specific to that phone for $25, I had to google around for some random number in order to enable USB data transfer, then use iffy software in order to copy over files which may or may not play, with no indication of what they'd sound like on the phone or how much space I had left.
Apple both makes it very easy to get ringtones on the iPhone for a buck in addition to buying the song (WAY less than any competitor from what I've seen), and still allows the DIY crowd to do it for free if they want to mess around. It's not worth their time trying to stop their efforts since dedicated people will find a way - it's only worth their time to fix something that your standard Joe Idiot can handle (and to be honest, even using the built-in ringtone creator will probably be a stretch for most - waveforms will scare the ***** out of them) if it really damages a source of income. Probably well under 5% of iPhones have been hacked to some degree; likewise, probably less than 5% of iPhone owners would bother to open up something in something like Fission, GarageBand, or Audacity, trim to the size they want, export, rename, set the metadata, then add it into the library. For a lot of people, the time they'd take to do that is easily worth the dollar or two they'd pay. - hermes369, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3I understand the complaints about breach of contract; still, how many times do you have to buy the same thing?! How about creating your own tune in Garage Band and wanting it as your ringtone. Heaven forbid you use your own content on your own phone. Great hack!
- meatmcguffin, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3Ah, i was wondering when you would be trolling this thread. Your comment made no sense though - what was i trying to excuse them of? I'm not sure i was, but never mind...
To be honest, i have no experience with AT&T as i'm not American. From what i've heard, they suck so i'm assuming Apple joined them because they could subsidise the phone with AT&T, implement visual voicemail, get some experience building cell phones (other than the crap they did with motorola) and take a portion of the contract cash every month. It's all a case of money but in this case, the user gets a cheaper phone then would be sold without At&T as long as you don't mind the contract.
The music industry on the other hand, well, Apple have to be in bed with them because there wouldn't be an iTunes music store. It's nice that they've prevented the music industry from raising prices on two separate occasions. Microsoft on the other hand implemented a tax on the zune which went straight to the music industry. It's the music industry pressing for higher prices and contracts where you have to pay twice for songs, go do some research
http://daringfireball.net/2007/09/weird_rude_buggy - TheCount, on 10/10/2007, -1/+3Are you an idiot?
- k3vinmartian, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2This is so not the place for you to hang out. Please delete your own profile and never come back to digg. Dumbass
- briankeith, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Nicely written. And for once, maybe someone isn't going to say "Blogspam" ?
- guillemw, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Confirmed XP 7.4.1! Hopefully Apple will ignore this little nugget of information and give up the $100 a little faster.
- rjcarr, on 10/10/2007, -1/+3Apple is setting a scary precedent with the new ringtone feature in itunes. Basically, you are paying to use a software feature ... you already have the software and you already have the song, you are just paying to use a feature of the software. Scary idea ...
I'm sure this wasn't apple's idea, but the RIAA that wants to squeeze more licensing dollars out of the user. It doesn't make it any less scary ... "pay per use software". Yikes. - meatmcguffin, on 10/10/2007, -2/+4Apple don't care if you hack the phone. AT&T do care if you circumvent a contract. The music industry definitely care if you avoid overpaying for anything.
There's a *huge* difference behind these ideologies even though they all apply to one device. You could tell Apple were annoyed at everyone at the last conference; all they songs they played at the keynote, and even the clip of a video they showed, all had a theme to do with contracts and how crap they are. - aliguana, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Apple could simply have put a menu icon in their music browser on iPhone "use as ringtone". Perfectly legal. The reason they aren't doing that, is that buying ringtones is big business in the cellphone world (although the WHY escapes me at the moment). The record companies see this, so does Apple. Its all about money-making. If they didn't get in there first, there would be 1000 "buy ringtones for your iPhone!" companies, like there are with Nokia. It is product/service lock-in, pure and simple.
As for losing the iTunes store - nope, because like I said, the RCs would find 1000 other companies ready to sell their music as ringtones. Apple don't HAVE to do this - they want to. Although imo it's just adding annoyance to iPhone users, and bloat to iTunes users. - ShaunJordan, on 10/10/2007, -1/+3They are $400 now, chief
- schumacc, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2People on Digg make such a big deal about what cell phone carrier they use. Why???? I could really give a ***** who it is as long as my cell phone service is decent in my primary locations. I have never had to call my cell phone company for anything other than the most basic billing question. I was with Cingular for a few years and then AT&T took over. I could give a rat's ass as nothing has changed. If AT&T phone service does not work well where you are I can understand wanting to use another carrier, or if a competitior is significantly cheaper I can understand that. But just because the name is AT&T, WTF is up with that? Why do so many people imply thet need great customer serivce? What are they doing that requires this so that AT&T's poor customer service is their primary objection? That ranks very low on my list, way below price and signal strength.
- cleverboy, on 10/10/2007, -1/+3No, I'm bothered by it too... :: grimaces ::
- meatmcguffin, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2When the record labels make them :/
AFAIK, they are contractually obligated to patch any problem that the music industry sees as a way of causing them loses within thirty days, which is why you always see an improved DRM scheme a few weeks after a DRM stripper is released. - MacParrot, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2So, the only way you can manage to get any attention is to troll as a racist on digg. I didn't digg you down and I didn't report you. Just being someone like you is punishment enough. I did block you though as I'm not in the least interested in what you have to say. I'm sure you'll just delete this screen name when enough other people have done the same and come back with something equally disturbing. I mean after all, it's your only source of attention.
- cleverboy, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1nice job!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6b2176m4VS0 - dongiaconia, on 10/10/2007, -2/+3If you already have been using the m4a->m4r trick, here is a little bit of crude code to get all your files converted. If you go to your itunesRingTones folder, and extract the files from Atomic parsley there, like this: K:iTunesRingtonesAtomicParsley-win32-0.9.0 inside the Atomic Parsley folder create 2 batch files, one called MakeAllRingtones.bat and one called MakeOneRingTone.bat
MakeAllRingTones.bat
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@echo off mkdir ..[REPLACE WITH BACKSLASH]output
FOR %%c in ("k:iTunes BackupRingtones*.m4r") DO call makeoneringtone.bat "%%c"
MakeOneRingTone.bat
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AtomicParsley.exe %1 --stik value=14
@echo move new file to output folder
move ..[REPLACE WITH BACKSLASH]*-temp-*.m4r ..[REPLACE WITH BACKSLASH]output
and then execute the MakeAllRingtones.bat file, it will take everything in your folder and set the stik value to 14, then it moves the 'temp' file that it created into ringtonesoutput. Now you just need to add the files from the output folder back into iTunes. NOTE: If you don't move the temp file that gets created, it will run forever (till you CTRL-C it) because the outputted file will also get picked up in the for loop in subsequent iterations. I'm a bit too tired and lazy to make it do anything more, but if it doesn't work for you, let me know... PS: Backup your files first! Oh yea, and I'm not responsible if anything gets deleted. :P - 5150photo, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1They also added support for the iPod Touch. It wouldn't recognize it until after the update.
- plinx, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1This is extremely easy to do. Just place the .m4a file in the same directory as AtomicParsley.exe and use the following syntax like the author states: AtomicParsley mmbop.m4a --stik value=14. Of course replace mmbop.m4a with your song.
- jamesweston, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1they fixed a bug in the about page
- ThinkBox, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Zach's stuff didnt work for me at all.
- speedyrev, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2How long till Apple patches this?
- cakerun, on 10/10/2007, -4/+5Am i the only one who was bothered by his ringtone filename?
mmbop.m4a ???????
MMM BOP? NO, NOT HANSON...... - inactive, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Got to admit I cracked up at this. So over the top.
- cl0r0x70, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1At the end of the day, people who are talented and hard working enough will ALWAYS be able to circumvent any kind of DRM and other restrictions on digital devices and content.
For most people, tho, 99 cents for a ringtone is a decent value vs. going through the trouble of editing binary files. - k3vinmartian, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Dude, pay-per-use software has been around for years. What do you think you are buying when you get a software license? You are buying the license to use that software for a certain time period. Generally, that time period is forever, until the software becomes obsolete at which point you will need to purchase a new version, or by forcing you to purchase annual update subscriptions, like with anti-virus programs. Ever buy any software that comes with different feature versions? For example, Windows Starter, Home Basic , Home Premium, Business, Enterprise, Ultimate? It's basically the same thing in all versions except for subtle feature enhancements that you have to buy to use. Alternatively, I suppose Apple could have charged a huge premium upfront, basically forcing iPhone only versions of iTunes at a price, but that would make things complicated for users. Or they could have required iPhone users to purchase subscription plans for ring tones, but that would go against there normal iTunes purchasing plan. And yes, or course they could have just made that a free feature in iTunes for users, but doing it this way makes more money for Apple. All of this whining about ringtones seems like much adu about nothing to me.
- dkm201, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1YHBT!
ಠ_ಠ - aRandomDude, on 10/10/2007, -2/+3yea, people still use it? and for a blog? wow.
- h3smith, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1i am using this and it works perfect if anyone is "on the fence" about it
i'll write something to automate it, but really this is a great fix. koodos -
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