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- mjoshi, on 10/10/2007, -32/+242Why would someone buy crap from iTunes when you've DRM free alternative from Amazon at cheaper price ?
- mavantix, on 10/10/2007, -13/+203Indeed, the third party apps will keep me on v1.0.2 forever, so if they want my money for buying WiFi Tunes, they better start allowing 3rd party apps! How hard would it be to release an offical SDK and add an apps manager to iTunes anyway?
- robalesi, on 10/10/2007, -16/+179Apple... We love you... We want to keep loving you. Please don't shoot yourself in the foot. Don't you understand your biggest resource is your rabid fanbase? Why alienate us by making it feel like we've leased a car and still have to follow a set of archaic rules. I understand the need to fight unlocking, but why on earth would you cripple 3rd party apps? What exactly are you afraid of?
- camknows, on 10/10/2007, -7/+126George Michael: Can you afford to skip work?
Michael: I think the president of a “Don’t Buy” company can afford to take a day off.
George Michael: We’re up from “Sell”? It’s happening, isn’t it?
Michael: It’s really happening. - kethraal, on 10/10/2007, -36/+110***** APPLE.
I mean really... not maintaining compatibility with unofficial third party application, coded against a reverse-engineered, private, internal API for which they made no promise of support, and deliberately tried to prevent the use of.
***** them. I gonna buy a Verizon RAZR instead. - IllBeBack, on 10/10/2007, -2/+65If you believe that Digg can do anything beyond temporarily bringing down weak web servers, you're delusional.
- stukdog, on 10/10/2007, -7/+67I don't buy crap from anyone. I make my own.
- kermatron, on 10/10/2007, -3/+59thumbs up for showing me the word ricockulous.
- JohnnyKdiggs, on 10/10/2007, -6/+50Think Different -- old
Think The Way We Want You To -- new - Vazelos, on 10/10/2007, -6/+48The fact of the matter is that Apple acted like a true, short-term, money-hungry multinational with the iPhone. I don't mind the money-hungry, it is expected but I do mind the short-term. End of.
- jeremy151, on 10/10/2007, -31/+70Really, this move by Apple is ricockulous. Take a clue from the mistakes of Sony, IBM, or *****, Apple vs. PC in the late 80's / early 90's. People want freedom of choice in their products.
- dweeb79, on 10/10/2007, -13/+52In all fairness I have a feeling Steve Jobs planned on offering a $100 credit from the get go. The reason why is because he looks like a good guy for giving a $100 back, however in reality he gets $100 more dollars from people because its almost impossible to find anything cheap in the Apple store.
People who love Apple are just like women who keep going back to their boyfriends/husbands who beat them. Apple just takes and takes while never really giving anything to their consumers. - BillyK, on 10/10/2007, -5/+44Funniest. Show. Evar.
- cbuddha42, on 10/10/2007, -4/+42Really, I know they think only their apps are perfect, but come on! open it up! Even if most 3rd party apps are crap, no one is going to blame you for that as long as they're not crap because of your crappy 3rd party support.
- Spuy767, on 10/10/2007, -3/+39So sad that it was taken off the air because middle america wasn't smart enough to get the jokes.
- Scruffydan, on 10/10/2007, -4/+39sounds like what sony does with the PSP. each new firmware upgrade breaks the all the cool stuff
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -6/+39boneheaded choices like this are the reason apple is a niche market in the pc world,and everyone uses windows. not that windows is any better,but they don't have such an anal need to lock out third party stuff.
apparently tho,it would'nt have made much difference in the end. - JohnnyKdiggs, on 10/10/2007, -17/+48Apple has finally done what it has set out to do all these years, become the new Microsoft.
- eviltandem, on 10/10/2007, -3/+33heheh... methinks what apple fears most is market share...
- S1ngular1ty1, on 10/10/2007, -1/+29Why is everyone updating their firmware? You don't have to.
- turpenine, on 10/10/2007, -4/+31I was going to buy one next week at the apple store, but now that they disabled all the cool things I could have done with it, I am not going to be picking one up and will be getting a free phone instead.
- LeonardNimrod, on 10/10/2007, -0/+27A show too smart for the typical sitcom audience.
- cleverboy, on 10/10/2007, -3/+27It's funny. The music industry is playing chess, and some people seem so pleased with themselves to be pawns.
- m0d0, on 10/10/2007, -2/+26AGREED!
- method77, on 10/10/2007, -2/+25that's not the point
- gumbright, on 10/10/2007, -6/+28Really, get a grip. It wasn't digg that did it. Clicking the little 'digg' button accomplishes as much as praying to a diety.
It was people calling/writing/emailing Apple that did it. And Jobs probably already had it as a contingency when they dropped the price. - Nougat, on 10/10/2007, -4/+26So why then, when everyone knew before the launch that 3rd party apps and non-AT&T carriers were going to be excluded from the iPhone by Apple, did NOBODY say, "Don't buy this, because Apple's product is too restrictive"? Why did EVERYBODY say, "Well, someone will hack it and then you'll be able to do everything you want, so run out and buy one right away"?
Why would respected reviewers first tout a product that didn't do everything they wanted it to BEFORE launch, then say "don't buy it" when the product didn't do everything they wanted it to do AFTER launch? - wafu, on 10/10/2007, -1/+23Arrested Development
- edcrosay, on 10/10/2007, -2/+22I will only "upgrade" to 1.1.1 when the dev community finds a way to hack it. I don't use the third party apps that much, but I absolutely love summerboard and all the themes available.
- JonXP, on 10/10/2007, -4/+23Funny, the main cause of crashes on Windows, third party drivers, are still blamed on Microsoft.
- bekind, on 10/10/2007, -11/+30I'm guessing 96% of iPhone owners have no idea what 3rd party applications are or why they would want them or how they would install them. iPhone is an amazing phone without 3rd party apps.
- monkeyrun, on 10/10/2007, -10/+29Seriously, what do you expect.
Anyone who "hacked" their iPhone should know well enough to not upgrade their firmware. - eviltandem, on 10/10/2007, -4/+22It also makes it very easy to ensure you can never leave the apple platform. Unless you do as Apple tells you with that iPhone you will not be able to use any of that content.
I'm sorry, but paying actual money for DRM'd content is for people who can't see but 5 seconds in front of their face... Someday something will change... and you'll have to buy it all over again. - Ravatar, on 10/10/2007, -0/+16Last I checked, Microsoft doesn't break my 3rd party apps every 3 months. (it's usually every 5 years)
- BadAsh71, on 10/10/2007, -19/+35Okay, so answer me this... you bought an AT&T Phone knowing that you have no intention of ever switching to AT&T then you get some hack which you don't fully understand but somehow it makes your phone work with your own service provider instead of AT&T and now with a simple software update from the manufacture of your phone you can no longer circumvent the extremely expensive licensing agreement between Apple and AT&T to use the phone on another network and you are pissed why?!?
Or, you bought an AT&T Phone produced by Apple, you found some hacks for it to turn it into a "personal massager" and now after the manufacture of the Phone you bought released an update to the Phone which patches Security vulnerabilities in its operating system... oh yeah, those same vulnerabilities that allowed you to install that wicked cool 3rd party app to turn your phone into a TV Remote and with the Security Vulnerabilities now patched all the hacks you ran on the system no longer work and so you are mad.... am I understanding you correctly?
If Apple or Microsoft modified their Desktop PC Operating System so that it wouldn't allow you to run 3rd Party Applications that would be bad, but, if Apple or Microsoft plugged a hole in a known Security Vulnerability in their software that allowed "hacks" that could be used for good but could also be used for very bad things, we would all praise them and then dream up a million reports showing which vendor resolves such vulnerabilities quicker and then Digg those articles here.
I know everyone here on Digg is well familiar with Gizmodo and all the other sites/blogs that have been posting about "hacks" for the iPhone. If you actually RTFA half of those sites/blogs you would probably notice that they have all been reporting how all these 3rd Party Applications are only able to be installed due to vulnerabilities in the iPhone software. If you did actually RTFA before "hacking" your friggn' phone something would have had to have gone off in your head and said "security vulnerability + hack = no good".
If and when Apple wants to provide an official SDK and/or Software Installation Application for the iPhone then it is safe to install that "iPhone Vibrator" application.... but be careful not to shock yourself. But until that time, don't sit back and think that Apple should just look the other way and not fix Security Vulnerabilities in their software out of fear that some of their customers will have to find other ways to pleasure themselves.
Come on, grow up and get a clue. - dearreid, on 10/10/2007, -1/+17I don't think that's true... Ambrosia stated today that they've added signing and encryption to the firmware, making it much more difficult, if not impossible, to hack into.
- soumenb, on 10/10/2007, -5/+20I sincerely hope Apple will understand its mistake. Now I understand the deal between Apple and AT&T, and that Apple could not sit still while the phone was being unlocked. But (semi) bricking it with an update? That is unacceptable. I am going to keep mine with 1.0.2 till the great guys at the dev team come out with their solution. Anyway I do not see much value addition to 1.1.1 that would compel anyone to let go of the third party apps. I would request all fans of the third party apps to keep their phone at 1.0.2. At least that might send a message to Apple.
- thetanman, on 10/10/2007, -3/+18Another thumbs up for teaching me "ricockulous."
- Caleb666, on 10/10/2007, -9/+23We love you? No we don't.
- Ireland, on 10/10/2007, -6/+20We'll give them until Macworld, if they don't announce an SDK by then, then shame on them.
- bunker6, on 10/10/2007, -0/+14And now we are graced with such shows as "Are You Smarter Than a Fifth Grader" and more shows that involve people trying to sing.
- phaseblue, on 10/10/2007, -2/+14The point is the ridiculous back and forth this is leading to
- JohnnyKdiggs, on 10/10/2007, -2/+14http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1033/681472733_b789 ...
- acarr, on 10/10/2007, -0/+12"but whining and pouting isn't going to get them to us faster."
Actually it probably will. Don't underestimate the power of public opinion. - br0ken1128, on 10/10/2007, -1/+13I have an iphone and it's certainly not the best thing thing on the block .. aside from the pretty interface it's really functionally lame .. it lacks some fundamental features that are absurd .. mms? instant messaging? .. my motorola v360 that's a few years old now has those features and does it pretty well in fact.. I can also go to my v360 and mark multiple items for deletion at once.. those are no brainer functions that the iphone should have left the gate with .. what's new and revolutionary about this thing? .. only a couple of things..
1. Visual voicemail .. my iphone is unlocked, I don't find myself missing this feature at all
2. Youtube.. nice, but not practical unless you're on wifi really.. edge is just slow
3. A full HTML browser.. nifty but with flash missing I find myself rarely using it.. besides.. it's slow
4. Touch screen .. novel .. but that wears off after a bit ..
There's nothing jaw dropping about it .. I find myself using my v360 more and more now .. the new car scent wore off my iphone and now I'm just not too fond of it .. - crazybrit, on 10/10/2007, -0/+11How the ***** is Windows Mobile a "behemoth"?
- diggumjonez, on 10/10/2007, -0/+11I'll come out and say that I'm amazingly impressed with the quality of these applications for a platform that is completely undocumented and actively hindering 3rd party development. So NES is not everything you hoped. Other games have progressed very well. The "remotely usable" app you refer to is the most annoying one in my opinion as I can't get the thumbtack out of google maps now.
SDK, documentation, and support would make third party development succeed at lightspeed. suddenly the iPhone could go from beautiful but functionally difficult device to full blown PDA and handheld computer. - inactive, on 10/10/2007, -5/+16alrighty i guess i'm popping my SIM card back into my Samsung D900 until this is figured out. ***** this.
My phone wasn't unlocked, just custom apps. - BadAsh71, on 10/10/2007, -1/+12Wrong, UNIX is NOT Open Source. In fact, UNIX is/was so expensive that people like Linus Torvalds and other members of the GNU Project started pulling together "Unix-like" software to develop "Linux" which is indeed FREE but NOT true UNIX.
- sadilak, on 10/10/2007, -2/+13But you dont pay $399 for the PSP. It costs $169 and moreover, the third party support for the PSP is pretty good and of late.
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