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- HerrEisenheim, on 10/11/2007, -3/+16Apple would probably love to open it to developers. The pressure to keep it locked comes from AT&T. Did anyone else notice that iChat is *mysteriously* missing from the iPhone? Yeah, that's thanks to AT&T. They don't want you to start IMing people and using voice and video chat instead of charging you per minute fees for voice and per message fees for SMS.
I mean, you could just throw Skype onto an iPhone and never pay AT&T anything more than a data connect fee. - Firehed, on 10/11/2007, -2/+9Rushed? They've been working on the thing for three years now.
- Eugenia, on 10/11/2007, -4/+11I think they will just offer javascript-based Widgets, not real apps. That's my prediction anyway.
- wphj, on 10/11/2007, -5/+11I really hope this is done soon. I can't wait to see what 3rd party developers could do with it. It may just convince me to buy it.
- DeFex, on 10/11/2007, -1/+6He probably just made a comment because he noticed there had not been an iphone article on digg for a couple of hours.
- Sagags, on 10/11/2007, -2/+5alot of smartphones have AIM and other IM programs preinstalled, and they work over the dataplan, not as a text message
- ckohler, on 10/11/2007, -4/+7There's really nothing stopping someone from sorta building iPhone widgets right now... as external web pages. That's all Widgets basically are anyway, tiny javascript driven web pages. There is even a sesson at WWDC specifically about developing websites for the iPhone.
- s3t3c.astr0, on 10/11/2007, -6/+8Awesome!
(I wan't my OmniFocus running on my iPhone damn it.) - slapout, on 10/11/2007, -2/+3Except for the price, that's the main thing keeping me away from the iPhone. I'm not going to buy a pda that I can't run my own software on.
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -1/+2What happens if the entire west coast cellular network goes down?
http://arstechnica.com/journals/apple.ars/2007/1/12/6597 - BugDave, on 10/11/2007, -6/+7i would love to have a voip application (preferably sip protocol or even skype) then calling out of the country would be CHEAP! Also, with an unlimited internet package and the proper voip plan, calling instate could be FREE and UNLIMITED!
ok, drool time is over. We know att would ***** bricks over that.
P.S. An iPhone Kismac build would be cool too. - l0ne, on 10/11/2007, -1/+2You have never tried actually using J2ME apps on Moto phones, or ever seen a crashed Nokia phone, right?
(Out of the box, the Nokia E71 takes just under a minute (!) to boot!) - thomas, on 10/11/2007, -3/+4Steve Jobs has already said that they would be more than happy to open up to third party developers but they have to find a way to do it with out risking the security and stability of the phone.
- dasluvaluva, on 10/11/2007, -3/+4Yea, because Smartphones have been plagued with this problem for years.
- superkendall, on 10/11/2007, -1/+2They will offer that as a start (Dashcode support, at least that is my prediction) but Jobs is talking about real OS X applications that made use of the iPhone GUI.
- chuckayoub, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1More iPhone facts:
http://www.iphonefacts.org/ - themattman, on 10/11/2007, -3/+4If Apple can somehow put in a GPS system with touch controls via a 3rd party app, I will go out and buy an Iphone, no questions asked.
- cthellis, on 10/11/2007, -1/+2It's always been presented that way, just as it's always been expected to NOT have any coming out of the gates, and for Apple to be running a tight vetting process on it all, and likely distribution solely through iTunes (or whatever sync software they may use in the future).
Doomsayers have been putting almost no thought into it. Others can debate whether this will allow for a vibrant 3rd party community to develop, or if it will dissuade too many to be of much use. - carnada, on 10/11/2007, -1/+1From AllThingsD.com's coverage:
1:15 p.m.: Is the iPhone’s platform closed? And if it is, will it be open to developers in the future? Jobs says it’s a security issue, but Apple is working to find a way to allow developers to build applications for it. Jobs says he doesn’t want the iPhone to be “one of those phones that crashes a few times a day.” He adds: “We would like to solve this problem and if you could just be a little more patient with us, we’ll do it.”
http://d5.allthingsd.com/20070530/steve-jobs-ceo-of-apple/ - EtherGnat, on 10/11/2007, -2/+2I use a multi-protocol IM client on WM5 and Verizon and it works great. Doesn't cost me a dime to use it, either.
- macattacks10, on 10/11/2007, -2/+2I have Verizon, and it's sorta lame, AIM uses your minutes for the duration you're on, and then each message costs one text message... So it uses both texts and voice minutes to use it.
- gadgetlust, on 10/11/2007, -2/+2If they open up the iphone to third parties and allow people to develop their own apps for it, it will be worth whatever price they ask. With PalmOS being assured of total death because of that goddamn Foleo POS they announced today, the iphone is going to be practically the only option for people who swore a decade ago that they would never carry a windows-based device around in their pocket. Unless the open source people can get a product out the door quick enough -- the neo1973 handset (openmoko.org) looks awesome
- elbriano, on 10/11/2007, -2/+2I really dont see why they are spending time "considering" this, the answer seems obvious to me...
- ToadX, on 10/11/2007, -3/+3That's the #1 reason I'd never get a iPhone, and I like Windows Mobile. If there are excellent 3rd party apps for the iPhone, then I'm in.
- kodoTM, on 10/11/2007, -1/+1That's right. Third party apps would seal if for me - a phone without the gmail/google maps just wouldn't be right. Plus it would give a new ball for exciting companies like last.fm, pandora and The Filter to play with. Looking forward to what comes out of this.
- macserv, on 10/11/2007, -0/+0Another reason iChat is missing is because Apple couldn't get hold of anyone at AOL to discuss extending the AIM partnership. Randy Falco, AOL's new CEO, supposedly called Steve personally after the iPhone introduction, and asked why there was no AOL email or AIM support. Randy had a good point... AOL is synonymous with email and chat.
Steve simply replied that Randy's company is so [expletive deleted] up right now that he couldn't find anyone to talk about the iPhone relationship.
Having worked there at the time, I can assure you that this scenario is QUITE probable. - ilgaz, on 10/11/2007, -1/+1If they would come to this sane point finally, why did they hurt the Java credibility and J2ME along with independent developer community by saying stupid things like GSM Network going down, nobody wants java (eh,because they already have) etc?
Which genius at Apple Inc. recommended it at first place? Which PR genius exactly?
You know a World without J2ME or Java? That would be a Microsoft .NET World with everything running WinCE getting latest and greatest, others begging for software. Nothing else. - nottidredd, on 10/11/2007, -2/+2Anyone know it $499/$599 is the price with a 2 year contract or without?
- elbriano, on 10/11/2007, -2/+1I can see it now...."West Coast cellular network crashes after Digg erupts with iPhone decryption code".
- benosmith, on 10/11/2007, -1/+0Thank You!!!! My question is will it be just a build option in xcode just like they did with universal, if that was the case this would be great; I don't know about other developers, but we have a whiteboard full of ideas if they would let us develop for it.
- iSlayer, on 10/11/2007, -2/+1If Apple decide to do third party it will only be through Apples website where it has at least been tested before users put it on their phone.
- nogami, on 10/11/2007, -4/+1Pity really, because I can skype from my pocketpc, not to mention play nearly any format I use with TCPMP, watch TV with my slingbox, etc.
The iPhone has a nice interface, but it's pretty crippled in other areas. Still can't see myself getting one.
Oh yes, and it won't sync with outlook. Dealbreaker right there. - applemumba, on 10/11/2007, -6/+3Let us develop for the iPhone! We don't mind going through apple for approval to get these apps on the iPhones. We all want solid apps and want a solid iPhone and with 3rd party apps we will get both, with apple approval first that is!! I welcome this if as Steve mentioned the iPhone does not crash every day. Approval by apple and testing done on the apps before inclusion, I'd be happy!
- lordmike, on 10/11/2007, -3/+0"The pressure to keep it locked comes from AT&T. Did anyone else notice that iChat is *mysteriously* missing from the iPhone?"
Perhaps, but there are no such restrictions on the Treo.
Thanks,
Mike - trghpy, on 10/11/2007, -9/+4Jobs knew the phone wouldn't be ready for the developer conferences, so what would be the next best thing?
Developer tools & simulator
And of course in Steve Jobs fashion, he alway covers up his release products. - rasterbator, on 10/11/2007, -11/+5I called it 9 days ago (hopefully Steve makes it official on June 11 at WWDC), and Apple could do a few more things to blur the lines of Technology and Telephone companies.
Read the blog post (linked from digg.com)... http://digg.com/apple/Apple_WWDC_See_the_Future - fkr3, on 10/11/2007, -10/+3It "May" come in blue.
It "May" come in a larger size 2 months after the first release.
It "May" allow 3rd party apps.
It "May" allow you to format it and throw whatever operating system and software you want on it.
It "May" be given away free to every 10th person who says they want to touch Steve Jobs' ballsack with their tongues.
Until they do, or at least say they will, what they "May" do is anything you can think of.
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