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iPhone Downgrade Baby! Go from 1.1.1 to 1.0.2!

tuaw.com — Just what the title says. Looks like all that complaining might be for nothing! Take that Apple!

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  • jgrastyjr, on 10/10/2007, -16/+14Viva Revolucion!!!!
    • Scheissenegger, on 10/10/2007, -4/+7don't forget that you can't unlock a downgraded phone atm!!!! it doesn't downgrade the baseband so the unlock won't work!

      (for those who have a new phone with 1.0.2 or earlier, look at this link, it tells you how to unlock, without upgrading to 1.1.1: http://coolblog.profit42.com/2007/09/27/unlock-you ... )
  • Icebird, on 10/10/2007, -9/+1Um Erica... why are you linking the wiki?
  • eh270, on 10/10/2007, -16/+5Turn your iPhone into an iPod touch (but with NES support and a Popcorn making app) -- AWESOME. Seriously, guys, I know you are all bananas about having 3rd party apps on your phone (why, I don't think I quite understand), but why can't you just be happy enough with having the best cellphone available? Can't you play Megaman when you get home?
    • DannyMurphy, on 10/10/2007, -7/+7It is like have a Mac that won't run Photoshop, it looks good but doesn't do what I want it to do.
      • locojones, on 10/10/2007, -2/+3Um, so why did you buy a device that can't do what you need it to do?
        • senatorpjt, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2When I bought my phone it had 1.0.2 and a statement from Apple that they wouldn't try to actively prevent 3rd party apps from running. I still have 1.0.2, but now Apple has cryptographic signing on 1.1.1. So, when I bought it, it did do what I wanted it to do.
      • MacParrot, on 10/10/2007, -1/+5He didn't actually BUY one. He just pretends so he can sound cool complaining about it on digg
    • ruddy, on 10/10/2007, -10/+4hey guys i spotted the apple fanboy. who else would say, take away half the functionality and just be happy with what you got.
      • MacParrot, on 10/10/2007, -1/+5Seeing how you have an MS flag for an avatar I'll type slower for you.
        He simply means just use the phone as presented. If you want more than what the iPhone can do (and since Apple seems to have no interest in opening it up anytime soon), then buy a different phone. There you go!
    • BarriedaleNick, on 10/10/2007, -6/+5"the best cellphone available"

      Are you pissed or does idiocy come as standard..
  • fuzzmeister, on 10/10/2007, -1/+106"After downgrading your iPhone will most likely not work as a phone."

    So what is it then, just an "i"?
    • tucktan, on 10/10/2007, -3/+29its an overpriced ipod touch
      • sakuraz, on 10/10/2007, -1/+5not to mention the obesity
      • potp, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2and lets not forget a "OMGBBQLULS Internet Communication Device"
        • python2121, on 10/10/2007, -1/+1As big of a fanboy iAm, I have to agree.
    • reddikilowatt, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2A fashion statement.
    • SirZRX, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1yes it will, someone found a way to flash the baseband whit putty
    • paloooz, on 10/10/2007, -1/+1It works perfectly fine. I am running firmware 1.0.2 with baseband firmware 04.01.13_G on AT&T with no problems. Plus, if you want to unlock your phone again, the dev wiki has posted instructions on how to downgrade your baseband firmware, fully unbricking your unlocked iPhone.
  • sinner0423, on 10/10/2007, -2/+15This is a better solution than what's currently going around on the net, 80,000 begging on iPhone forums for a fix
    If you've got an iPhone that's been unlocked - don't update to 1.1.1. It's that simple. It renders your IMEI (cell phone serial number) useless if you've got it unlocked & using it with another provider. This isn't about 3rd party apps, this is about people getting ***** who want the phone to not be exclusive to AT&T.
    • insomniac8400, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5By law they are allowed to do that. And apple has no right to disable anything, espcially once its on another providers network. The phone no longer has anything to do with AT&T.
      • Aleks, on 10/10/2007, -2/+1I'm for opening the phone so I'm just stating this fact... Apple already came out said they are relocking the phone to protect the carriers (AT&T, O2 (UK), T-Mobile (Germany). It's also Apple's right as well to do what they please with their product. Remember, people signed that T&A/


  • hourog, on 10/10/2007, -4/+15Folks, understand, as these phones now exist, they're iBricks - they do NOTHING. With this downgrade method, at least some functionality is returned. Hopefully, the team can use this platform to proceed on to totally unlock these phones again, so they work. They may never have all the new bells and whistles available in newer firmware updates, but at least people, all over the world, can again use the iPhone as a PHONE.
  • teknishn, on 10/10/2007, -8/+1OMFJC!!!! I can downgrade and go back to older code and stop improving my OS and UI. Seriously, ppl need to realize that iPhone OS on release day was 1.0 which might as well be alpha. If you think you can downgrade and stick it to the man, you're simply hurting yourself at this stage. I would'nt concern myself with being a l33t haX0r until they get the OS dialed in and the missing features we want in place.
    • netdroid9, on 10/10/2007, -2/+20.1 is Alpha, methinks you mixed up your big and little endians...
  • Rcdriver, on 10/10/2007, -2/+9This looks like it'll turn into the situation with the PSP firmwares.
  • imbob, on 10/10/2007, -2/+27its like the PSP all over again so when can we start to play illegal ISO's on it?
    • sakuraz, on 10/10/2007, -2/+13when they start making games for it.
  • broodking, on 10/10/2007, -10/+4the iphone is becoming more like the psp
    • potp, on 10/10/2007, -7/+5except that the PSP is more capable system. :P
  • Dylson, on 10/10/2007, -10/+22.
  • Tezgno, on 10/10/2007, -1/+13Just a correction that is not listed on TUAW's updates, for those of you who are on AT&T who updated your phone to 1.1.1 and want to go back to 1.0.2 because you want you apps back, you can do so and still have full functionality to the phone. For those of you with "iBricks," this will restore the phone back to working, but anything that requires the cellular signal will not work. This is currently being worked on.
  • fLUx1337, on 10/10/2007, -2/+6Just look at this, what started the whole thing:
    http://www.hackint0sh.org/forum/showthread.php?t=9 ...

    I've seen SOO many forum threads like that get closed or removed as the mods or admin think its just some n00b - but in this case, it was 100% true!

    Makes you wonder how many newbies accidentally find something - then nobody wants to know or believes them!
  • odiego, on 10/10/2007, -3/+1upgraded mine to 1.1.1 like a dummy,
    followed the steps on the guide,
    it all works for 'valid' AT&T sim,
    lets see how long to figure out AnySim!
  • nubnub, on 10/10/2007, -4/+1Yay its the psp all over again!
  • Alex2, on 10/10/2007, -2/+19Day 32: I look at my marvelous reflection of myself in my iBrick. STILL THE SHINIEST!
  • CrankyMcGuy, on 10/11/2007, -11/+47I realize I risk being dugg down, but Apple didn't force you guys to upgrade. They didn't force you to unlock your iPhone, and they didn't force you to buy the thing in the first place. As far as I know, there were other phones in the marketplace before Apple entered it. These phones all worked on your carrier of choice. Anyone who bought an iPhone to purposely unlock it and hack it took a risk.

    I far prefer reading the guys who look at this as a game of cat and mouse with Apple than the ones who are constantly whining. The hackers realize that they are hacking the iPhone to do what it wasn't intended to do. They realize that any update from Apple can, whether inadvertently or purposely, reset their iPhone back to square one, or worse turn it into a brick. That's part of the thrill for them. But looking at this as a revolution of the people vs. the man is just silly.
    • Mizzike, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5...couldn't have said it better. right on, man.
  • Trax91, on 10/10/2007, -7/+6Apple is the new Sony. PSP=iPhone/iTouch
    • Dylson, on 10/10/2007, -3/+1Pretty much you fail and you should never post a comment again. Ever.
  • HeavyWave, on 10/10/2007, -8/+1Who cares...
  • anachronox, on 10/10/2007, -11/+11IMHO Apple is frankly overrated. iPods dont have Fm,voice, radio recording and require you to buy snazzy crap as addons. Now this iPhone -> does Apple make life simple-or even more fun?
    • thefinger, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6Since the iPhone, no one's had time for simple and fun. Too busy up/downgrading/bricking/jail breaking. I don't suppose anybody uses their iPhone for making phone calls?
      • TotalHalibut, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5What the hell's a phone call?
        • hove, on 10/11/2007, -0/+7It's like an sms but with sound rather than text.
    • madmage, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1I do. I've hacked my phone with apptap, and I've come to love NES and Tap Tap Revolution, do for that reason, I'm going to wait a few weeks to see if they get it working with 1.1.1. But if I was unable to get phone calls even once because of a hack, you better believe I'd go back to square one as quickly as possible.
  • daxsymbiont, on 10/10/2007, -11/+4who ***** cares about iphone. a ***** 100 dollar motorola or nokia can play mp3s.
    • thefinger, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2No no! They'll have to downgrade by at least two decimal places in order to get mp3 functionality back. :)
  • mrroarke, on 10/10/2007, -4/+10Awesome! Cuz it's been all of 10 minutes since the last iPhone story!
  • fuxjoey, on 10/10/2007, -3/+3It's really like a war.
    • z987k, on 10/10/2007, -2/+1yeah the company vs their customers. wtf is that? Since when have consumers ever put up with a company mistreating them?
      • KirbyMeister, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Since Apple had a fanbase.

        SRSLY ITS A COMPUTER, NOT A SOCIAL MOVEMENT
    • thefinger, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2Not really. It's more like a combo-- soap/bitchfest.
    • TotalHalibut, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3No, it really isn't.
  • PeopleGeek, on 10/10/2007, -3/+3.....and the mouse escaped the cat again. This time wounded but still feeling like he has a chance.
    The cat smiles and lets the mouse go a few more steps while savoring the mouses next futile move.
    • dagamer34, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2The mouse is only but one of many. The cat can't catch them all!
  • rdas7, on 10/10/2007, -5/+9I'm so happy I can finally downgrade the software in my device. As an iPhone owner, if there's one thing I hate its cutting edge software. I'm waiting for the OS9 port.
  • rodzilla, on 10/10/2007, -3/+4Wow, I can downgrade and play the new suduko app
  • cruzer2727, on 10/10/2007, -1/+3Just did my download, IT WORKED!!! Awesome! i couldnt really tell a difference in the speaker phone and receiver volume anyways. It still needs to be louder! I love how i can customize this so much! thanks for this TUT.
  • thefinger, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5This is just a soap opera. You paid money and emotional angst for a soap opera?
  • MacParrot, on 10/10/2007, -3/+10I can't believe all the whining about this. Why did any of you buy a phone that didn't have the functionality you wanted? Instead, you buy something that a company TOLD you didn't do certain things, flush with the knowledge that the hackers would soon bring you the bliss. Now you're pissed because Apple made changes that they SAID they were going to do?
  • genexyzration, on 10/10/2007, -2/+0Tell the attorney that you lost millions of money when you cannot call your broker due to the update that render your iphone useless. A last seconds call to the broker might prevented the loss if the phone was working after the update.
  • dsharma, on 10/10/2007, -2/+4Why every things with iPhone/Steve Jobs is making to main page of digg. Looks like apple is working hard on diggs ....
    • senatorpjt, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2if I were Apple, this isn't really the kind of story I'd want publicized.
  • insomniac8400, on 10/10/2007, -2/+6So what happens when someone can't call 911 on ther iphone after updating? Is jobs going to jail?
    • kmotiv1, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3as far as I know, 1.0.2 still has a keypad with a 9, and a 1 on it.
    • Vermifax, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1My iPhone has 1.1.1 on it. It dials 911 and other phone numbers just fine.
  • SirZRX, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3mouses and pirates...always win!
  • frunch217, on 10/10/2007, -2/+7Nice! ***** Apple!
  • dgtldre, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Guys, you should research more into this method and not only read the headlines..From my understanding, If you have a valid ATT SIM card and are a legit ATT account holder/cutomer your phone WILL work (making phone calls). For those that are wanting to use it as an unlocked phone with a differerent carrier, I belive that's where the mix reports are coming in about the phone part not working.
  • nick1000, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2Anybody tried this on an iBrick..... http://developer.ribbitphone.com/
    Can someone make VOIP calls using this?
  • MrViklund, on 10/10/2007, -2/+2Dugg down because of iPhone hack.
  • herval, on 10/10/2007, -1/+1the best thing is seeing the morons on the forum criticizing the guy for telling everybody he made it, and then claiming that 'everybody knew it' in the end...
  • stormbreaker, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2Or you could just not upgrade in the first place...
  • luet, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2"After downgrading your iPhone will most likely not work as a phone."

    so... then it's basically an iPod touch. Then why buy a ***** iPhone for this stuff?
  • aristotle0dude, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2The unlock tools are modifying system level files. The way the hacking tools are modifying the system could be causing the firmware update to fail to complete successfully.

    There are several possibilities:
    1. Jailbreak could be setting the permissions or ownership incorrectly.
    2. Jailbreak modifies files which causes a CRC+version check to fail in the firmware update to fail part of the way through.

    If some of the files were not updated during the update, an incompatibility between the flash rom and one of those file could result in an unbootable system.

    It is possible that Apple built a check for modifications to a particular file that these hacking tools do not modify to determine whether to start the update process to support multiple branches of code internally.
  • AzMegladon, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4you macboys r just sad.
  • pengas, on 10/10/2007, -1/+1burn fanboys, and as of apple, well mr. jobs, u will not see a cent out of me nor any of my clients and as far as i am concerned, even if u came and kissed my bottoms, i will not give u another chance.

    hasta la pasta biaatch
  • caponumen, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Meanwhile the rest of the world could care less........
  • kiddx, on 10/10/2007, -0/+0By the time everyone gets all this worked out and the screaming and hacking and firmware and everything a competitor will make a phone just as good or better than the iphone and will be available
  • Moviespo, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1This feature lasted 5 days! Just today my iphone went bonkers. I went from 1.0.2 then to 1.1.1 then back to 1.0.2 after 5 days of enjoying the third party, on the first day my mail app disappeared... It was there but could not see it..after ssh into phone and purging everything in the mail.app folder it was restored.

    Today my photos disappeared and when plugging the phone into itunes it came up with a max space of 250 megs storage and 55 available..Instead of reading the 8 gigs of max space..

    Had to do a bootie call..After the restore..all is good but somethings not 100% with this hack but well worth the trip
    All in all, I'll just restore if it happens again..Nothing beats the apptap..

    Anyone else have this problem?
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