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- deadnoob, on 06/12/2008, -6/+223If you think it is ***** that they don't include text messages in a data plan digg this up.
- inactive, on 06/11/2008, -3/+115If you are in the UK though, the price really actually has gone down, as operator O2 not only lowered the price of the phone from £269 to £99 but they also launched a new service plan for it too, knocking £5 per month off the total price.
Whereas the original iPhone cost UK residents £899 over the 18 month plan, the new iPhone can come in at as little as £639. Per month, this works out at £49.94 vs £35.50. A pretty massive saving and a great move if you ask me. All this and the phone is better because it will get better reception and it has faster data transfer, plus as a bonus you're getting GPS too!
Thank you, O2. - pell, on 06/11/2008, -19/+107Is it Apple's fault for the higher prices or AT&T's?
- solidus636, on 06/12/2008, -4/+76If you are a text message freak, there really isn't any reason to pay that 5 dollar fee, or any for that matter. Just use Safari to sign onto AIM(using an online client/site or w/e.) and use the service to send text though the browser. You can add a phone number onto the buddy list, so it'd work pretty well. Easily saved 120 bucks over 2 years, and you get unlimited texts with this.
Go ahead, digg me down. Just a way to save money. - fraul, on 06/12/2008, -6/+64You people don't get what's OBVIUS: it's 3G, so its data plan is going to be more expensive !
At least here in Brazil, there's not even one single carrier that doesn't charge more for 3G data plans than edge ... its frigging faster for god's sake - psylence, on 06/12/2008, -3/+56Because those considering picking up the iPhone are serious penny pinchers? Come now. If the extra $160 over 2 years is devastating to your budget, you aren't hitting an Apple Store any time soon.
- Wailord, on 06/12/2008, -22/+74Honestly, I'm sick of everyone talking about how the iPhone truly "costs more". Maybe if they re-unveiled the first iPhone with a new price and higher data plans, it'd make sense, but that's not the situation. You're getting dramatically faster internet and email as well as GPS- it's very much worth it. If you don't agree, here's a thought: DON'T BUY IT.
- delirium, on 06/12/2008, -5/+55Yes. They choose AT&T.
- jjustin01, on 06/12/2008, -12/+61Then don't buy it. Plain and simple. You don't like the plan, then don't sign the contract and don't get an iPhone.
I know I am going to get dugg down for this, but I am going to say it anyway. iPhone users bitched and moaned about their precious paper bill when the iPhone was released. This was the same paper bill every other custom received from ATT for every other phone before the iPhone. Did ATT bend over backwards and send out a custom paper bill for the users of the Palm Treo or Blackjack or any other phone? No, they didn't. iPhone users got what they wanted. There was obviously a difference between iPhone users and the average ATT customer. The average ATT customer knew they could opt out of paper bills instead of posting "poor me" blogs and videos bitching about it.
ATT setup a custom data plan that was $10 cheaper per month then the average data plan for every other PDA/Blackberry phone they offered. Did you hear all Blackberry users bitching and whining because they were paying extra? Were their stories out the ass posted on Digg because Blackberry users are getting the shaft? No, you didn't.
Why is it that Apple customers seem to be the bitchiest bunch of customers out their? Why is it that Apple manages to release products as revolutionary as the iPhone and MacBook Air, and pretty much everything else they do, and yet the fanboys still find something to completely bitch and moan about. This is kind of like the rich kid who bitches because their mom and dad won't pay to fill up their BMW. Get over yourselves and accept the fact that if you want to be coolest kid on the block, there's a price you are going to have to pay.
Commence digging down!
/soapbox - inactive, on 06/11/2008, -7/+50Tisk, tisk they could have paved the way for video conferencing / video calls
- solidus636, on 06/12/2008, -1/+24I agree with you. But it's : OBVIOUS.
- cifrancgx, on 06/11/2008, -5/+25This is actually cheaper than my plan from Verizon for my Treo 700P (which uses EVDO) that I signed up for 2 years this coming August.
Treo 700P phone: $399
Voice Plan: $39.99 for 450 min (I also get $6 off that for State of Ohio employee discount.)
Data Plan $40 (yes $40. so that is $10 more than the iPhone 3G data plan and $20 more than the current iPhone data plan)
SMS Text MSG $5 for 250 messages
For a total of $2438.76 over my 2 year contract before taxes (add another $5 a month for taxes). Which is $463.76 more than the iPhone 3G plan.
I actually ended up dropping my $40 a month data plan (you can do so any time without penalty from Verizon at least) since it was so expensive and the Treo's browser is such a joke it just wasn't worth it just for getting my email and the other apps that needed net access. - mattbeetee, on 06/12/2008, -3/+22How splendid for us Brits. Tea in the conservatory to celebrate, chaps?
(Furthering our awful stereotype FTW) - Alex2, on 06/12/2008, -1/+20Wait till you see the pricing of the Rogers data plan. (Soviet Canuckisan)
- kitsua, on 06/12/2008, -1/+17Yep. UK iPhone users really win this time 'round.
- dsmx, on 06/12/2008, -1/+16I'll come driving my Bentley in my bowler hat.
- Avian00, on 06/12/2008, -0/+15Am I the only one who thinks that the prices for these plans is just getting out of control? Almost $1000 per year for a single device? This is suppose to be an extension of my Internet life. Instead, I end up paying more for this small email and web device than I do for a full computer, high speed internet and telephone at my home. Where is the mobile Internet for the "rest of us?"
Oh, and 20 cents per SMS? Seriouly, WHAT THE HELL?! I can CALL other AT&T subscribers and talk for hours without paying one cent more, but the instant I send or receive an SMS, I'm out 20 cents!! That's just wrong! - newstart, on 06/12/2008, -5/+18I agree with you, my tea drinking friend that some countries will benefit from the change in the price. But in the US it looks like the corporations are still fooling the people. Isn't America suffering from "too much capitalism?"
- BeeArePro, on 06/12/2008, -1/+14There's no way in hell i'll eat garbage.
- diskopo, on 06/11/2008, -0/+13I know, THAT would have been something worthy of a 3G plan.
- mantastic, on 06/12/2008, -0/+12I think all data plans include data, that is where the name comes from.
- perral1, on 06/12/2008, -1/+13Hey guys, I'm quite content with my Skype phone, with unlimited calling for $2.95/month. Granted, people can't call me, and I'm tethered to my computer but....you guys are getting reamed.
- inactive, on 06/12/2008, -1/+13To a point yes it is. The phone is priced that way based on subsidies. Those subsidies have to be paid for somehow. There are two basic ways that phone subsidies work. The vendor sells the phone to the telco provider and they lower the cost of the hardware with some hefty contract to make up the money, or the phone vendor sells it cheap to the stores and share in the revenue from monthly sales.
I believe that Apple has shared the revenue from monthly service charges with their 2g iphone, and as a result are probably going to continue that with the 3g one.
This means that to some degree the data plan is a higher cost to give apple more of a cut allowing them to bottom out the phone price. Its a marketing gimick as well, people look at the sticker price and few will look at the monthly recurring costs to see the total cost of the phone.
I wonder if AT&T still has the 30 day return policy, but apple only has the 14 day one with the iphone 3g. That enabled people to cancel their phone subscription but keep the phone at the lower price (shh its a secret :) That is how the 2g one was done anyway, enabling a subsidized price (yeah even at $400 it was subsidized) but not requiring the contract.
If that holds, and unlocking the 3g iphone isnt a bother then you have a $199 handset that is still inferorior to the sony ericsson xperia x1. The reason apple is so aggressive about locking the phone is because they require those kickbacks. - matbot3i, on 06/11/2008, -1/+12I think you're being defensive--no one has said that. This is about the bottom-line. On the other hand, this really only effects those who want to "overwrite" their contract with AT&T so they can upgrade their iPhone, I think. Is it a fair price to pay? That's for each consumer to decide.
- MacParrot, on 06/12/2008, -0/+10Maybe you should buy a different phone and use a different carrier...and take a valium
- johnnycho, on 06/12/2008, -4/+14And over 20 years, the new iPhone will cost a whopping $1,600 more than the original iPhone!!! Over 200 years, you're looking at $16,000!! Oh my God!!!
Please. $160 over two years amounts to $6.67 a month. So you have two fewer lattes at Starbucks each month. Big deal. - max1018, on 06/12/2008, -1/+11I'll bring the fish 'n' chips governor. Jolly ho and what not.
- mrloco, on 06/12/2008, -1/+10Go for a good round of polo afterwards.
- starf, on 06/12/2008, -0/+9Good tip.
But you still pay for incoming texts (.20c per text), and most people can't send ims from their phones. - inactive, on 06/12/2008, -2/+11why the hell would anyone want to use a video phone? it's probably the most worthless technology i've ever heard of.
seriously, you want to do videconfrencing on your iphone? you want to sit there with your arm outstretched holding your phone in front of your face just so someone at the other end can see you talk? while it drains your battery life no less...
am i the only one that does other things while on the phone, also? - jasmus, on 06/12/2008, -1/+9I'm not sure it's the apple USERS that are complaining. It sounds like the anti-fanboy types that are desperate to pick a flaw in the product so they can have a "superior" product or service, and laugh at all the "sheeple". It's not only cool to like Apple, it's also cool not hate them.
- delirium, on 06/12/2008, -1/+9The Sprint plan is wrong. I have their SERO plan (500 minutes, unlimited text, unlimited data, and free nights and weekends) with a HTC Mogul with unlimited data for $30/month.
- mistergoomba, on 06/12/2008, -0/+8thanks for the tip! :}
- ANT1138, on 06/12/2008, -5/+12zOMG! $160 over 2 years?!!!11 I'll have to eat garbage and suck dick to pay the bill.
- djadamjay, on 06/12/2008, -1/+8$10 for 3G data over $20 in the old iPhone wasn't that bad.
but if i upgrade i also lose my 200 SMS ?
nah, ***** that.
i'm sticking with my original iPhone. That just gave me the incentive i need to wait for a 32GB or larger version... for puchase in 2009.
I'll at least thank Apple for making the 2.0 software free for old iPhones, but a big ***** You to AT&T for nickle and diming us (as usual) - Tenoq, on 06/12/2008, -0/+7Video calls are available in Aus too - no-one uses them. It's probably price-related here too, just like in Europe, so it _may_ be different in the US given the propensity for unlimited plans of all kinds over there.
I wouldn't hold my breath though. - savethispatient, on 06/12/2008, -1/+8Video calls came out in Europe 5 years ago, when 3G was released... calls cost $1/minute and after the initial novelty value wore off nobody used it. So, don't hold your breath on that one.
- Nothlit, on 06/12/2008, -0/+7SMS has to be one of they most heavily marked-up services in the world. It costs the provider literally fractions of a cent to handle an SMS message, and they charge us 20 cents. Ridiculous. Hopefully one day SMS will die like the outdated technology that it is, and text messaging will be handled the same way as all other data.
- Laminarcissus, on 06/12/2008, -3/+10Not without a front side camera.
- psylence, on 06/12/2008, -8/+14If you are a text message freak, stop being a text message freak for the good of mankind.
ftfy. - mparker7410, on 06/12/2008, -2/+8OMG! This petition will change everything!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
- Laminarcissus, on 06/12/2008, -3/+9I think I can be more condescending:
Wow, an Apple fanboy reading something and reaching a reasoned conclusion as a result. I never thought I'd see the day. I thought it broke club rules or something.
Please geodebug, go now and use this new found logic to analyze the price/feature relationship among iPhone and other phones in its class. Hurry, you're just a few short conclusions away from escaping your idol worship and close to intellectual freedom!
Run, geodebug, run! - yensed, on 06/12/2008, -1/+7..."They choose AT&T".
- inactive, on 06/12/2008, -1/+7Wow, Verizon sucks dick. T-Mobile gives me Unlimited text for $5, 1000 minutes for $40 and unlimited data for $30. Amd my phone has more features than I really even need.
- NathanCH, on 06/12/2008, -2/+8Yeah I don't get it either. Phone companies are bloody greedy so why is anyone surprised that a year later we will be paying more for things?
- tacotruck08, on 06/12/2008, -3/+8yea WHAT THE ***** is up with that. and also now apple charging you for the damn dock. WHAT THE ***** IS UP ATT & APPLE STOP RIPPING US OFF.
how bout you make it so we can send a damn ***** picture message like all the other millions of ***** phones out there. *****...so far ahead in technology yet so far behind. i am royally pissed now at both apple and ATT. - flfny, on 06/12/2008, -3/+8The "dramatically faster internet" you're talking about really only applies to AT&T's 3G coverage which varies dramatically between markets. Adding insult to injury is if you live in a AT&T market, want an iPhone 3G, but live in an area not covered by the 3G network... well screw you, you'll pay for 3G anyway. Ha!
- indie1982, on 06/12/2008, -0/+5I think I'll be waiting until they announce they price of the iPhone on Pay As You Go.
Get the iPhone 3G on PAYG and then get an o2 Simplicity SIM for £15 a month and add the Web Browsing bolt on for £7.50. Total price £22.50 a month.
Potentially save £££'s over an 18 or 24 month term. - Laminarcissus, on 06/12/2008, -4/+9Or another thought, one truly unacceptable to many in these threads: BUY A DIFFERENT PHONE.
You will be opened up to a world of functionality, one in which headphones don't have wires, text messages can have pictures, and data can be moved from one application to another with just a cut and a paste. And one in which you have a whole bundle of money left at the end of the day.
It's amazing what happens when you buy phones from companies that actually respect you. -
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