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- superpixel, on 10/11/2007, -6/+38fightclub, I don't care about the company Fiat, but apparently this company employs quite a few folks. In fact, I hear an entire continent regularly buys their cars? Hard to imagine that someone would buy a car I couldn't care less about, but there it is. Hundreds of folks buying cars I don't give a poop about, every single day. It's like the world has gone mad. I thought about making a blog: idontcareaboutfiats.com but then I realized there's a door to my house, and I can simply walk outside and occupy myself with things that actually matter.
Cute tho. - keyle, on 10/11/2007, -2/+27I just want it to bloody work in Australia!
- unloud, on 10/11/2007, -3/+23What do you mean? And why is everyone's text except mustacho's upside down?
- jdc760, on 10/11/2007, -4/+23WTF?! Did somebody slip some LSD in my coffee?!
- noahhoward, on 10/11/2007, -4/+12It's going to be great when all the stories pop up about peoples information being stolen because they opened the thing up. Same thing happened with one of the hand-held consoles, people were putting third party apps on there and were trying to blame the manufacturer when things stopped working.
Remember kiddies, this will void your warranty and if you break your phone you will be stuck with a shiny brick. - GMorgan, on 10/11/2007, -1/+7As a Brit I agree, give it to Australia next ;).
- Terc, on 10/11/2007, -1/+8Nah, Apple TV was getting hacked literally the same day it went on sale. Heck, it had a new OS (well, if the FULL version of OS X counts) within 2 days. However, the progress on the iPhone is very promising. I guess people can't help giving a mobile computer this cheap and powerfull (yes, I said cheap, take a look at UMPCs somtime, and you'll see that things like this go for $900 to $1500) If someone gets OS X apps working, or just finds a way to get third party apps on the phone, we'll be a long way towards the coolest computing device to hit the market in a VERY long time.
- bansai, on 10/11/2007, -0/+7apple still earns from each iphone sale.. the just earn more when its activated with at&t.. so its a win-win situation, apple fanbois still see their stock market increase with the increasing sale of the iphone and users from all over can use it without having a contract with the devil.. eerr i mean at&t
- iSeven, on 10/11/2007, -1/+8and where can i download this?
- Terc, on 10/11/2007, -0/+6At a certain point, you just have to filter it yourself, you DID actually come to the comments section of this page, and read comments didn't you? For someone genuinely uninterested in iPhone stories, you're spending an awful lot of time reading through iPhone story comments.
- bunnybash, on 10/11/2007, -1/+7ok i am thinking about it... still not getting the brilliance of it, and i am here in perth, thinking why it would be brilliant to have a 2G phone that costs around 1300...
- chrisc801, on 10/11/2007, -0/+5You'll still be locked to a network in a way Telstra is the only network in oz that offers EDGE connectivity
- Tippis, on 10/11/2007, -0/+5Ehm... hacks or not, the phone will still be $600, and you'll still get it from Apple.
The only "***** you" you're sending out is to AT&T and the price of their 2-year lock-in - GoodBrain, on 10/11/2007, -2/+6I've got mirror links and much more info here:
http://unlockediphoneforsale.com/2007/07/iphone-hacking-news-update-iphoneinterface-tool-nearly-out/
Right now it's not of use to end users for anything other than indulging curiosity. It should help broaden the base of people working on the hacking project though. - jdc760, on 10/11/2007, -1/+4By "I" I meant "CheesyPoofs." I like the iPhone stories, actually.
- Flappy3, on 10/11/2007, -2/+5Aussie! Aussie! Aussie!
- timdorr, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3It might be soon, if the unlocking gets done.
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3is yahoo mail down again?
- DarkDragon, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3Can it launch telnetd or sshd?
- bunnybash, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3good god, imagine having to pay Telstra rates after forking over the cash for the phone!!! holy crap that would suck... talk about going broke fast!!
- inkyblue2, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3$600 is too much for a ***** YOU. for today only, i will give you a special deal. you can say ***** YOU to me for only $549.99, payable directly to my paypal account. i am a total arrogant prick who thinks he owns the world, so it will be totally worth it. i'll be really upset. i might even cry.
- rageguy, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3No chance of OS X unless you have an ARM compiled version of Mac OS X floating around.
However I think third party apps will happen soon :-) At least I hope so. - npearson99, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3OYE OYE OYE!
- lazka, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2he means syncing music like you can with the ipod.
- bunnybash, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2When this goes on sale down here it is going to make the Nokia N95 look cheap, do the markup % that Apple applies to their other gear and this thing is gonna be going for close to 1300 - 1400 which is just plain stupid if you ask me...
- o0adam0o, on 10/11/2007, -1/+3Go ahead and bury me...but i think the more people that are using a technology, the more likely it is to be hacked....so many people have the iphone which catches the eyes of people and groups tht can hack these things...with all these finding a small discovery each, it ends up being a great hack....thats part of why windows is so vulnerable...so many people use it. Its just my opinion and i know im not 100% right. I hope it gets unlocked and drops down to around $300...maybe be next year...then ill consider buying one.
- jdc760, on 10/11/2007, -1/+3They should have an iPhone category so I can filter out the iPhone stories but still get other Apple stories.
- shadowspawn, on 10/11/2007, -1/+3Now if you can get Skype or another VOIP app to run on it, yea i'd buy it. Use it as a WAP-Hotspot phone.
- Tippis, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2True enough, but the vulnerabilities get *discovered* due to popularity, so you still can't take that factor out of the equation.
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1can the people that hack these afford to buy one and potentially brick it?
$600? - danpat, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1I tend to agree. No matter how cracked, modded, 3rd party apped the iphone gets, Apple is still shifting units off their shelves. AT&T are screwed, but I wonder if Apple is (very) quietly pleased at the groundswell of hackers trying to open this hardware up to everyone with a lazy $600 to slap down.
Maybe AT&T just opened the door for Apple into the cellphone market, one where (in the US at least) seems to be tied to this locked-to-a-carrier mode. - Terc, on 10/11/2007, -4/+5***** YOU to their $600 price tag?
Just because you can't afford it on your allowance doesn't mean it's a ripoff. Take a look at UMPCs sometime. (Prices range from $700 to $2100) Granted, Apple needs to include a full OS to really compare, but it's quite close. - rohanch, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Yes. iPhone processor is an ARM processor at nearly 700Mhz. Skype only needs 312Mhz.
But don't count on it being released because Skype is closed-source. - DirtySnachez, on 10/11/2007, -1/+2dude, its got like 4 whole Gig of ipod too !
- danpat, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1No matter how cracked, modded, 3rd party apped the iphone gets, Apple is still shifting units off their shelves. AT&T are screwed, but I wonder if Apple is (very) quietly pleased at the groundswell of hackers trying to open this hardware up to everyone with a lazy $600 to slap down.
Maybe AT&T just opened the door for Apple into the cellphone market, one where (in the US at least) seems to be tied to this locked-to-a-carrier mode. Maybe Apple chose AT&T because they were most willing to go along with a crappy profit share deal, so when the iPhone was cracked and users were signing up to other carriers, Apple would retain the vast majority of the significant margin.
Maybe choosing EDGE over 3G for the US release was intended as a disincentive for Europe, UK and Aus so they would wait for the faster iPhone 2.0 model and not buy grey-import unlocked US iPhones.
Just my thoughts. - Wasyu, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Sorry the device just is not worth $599 if it's stuck to a crappy provider and you cannot add apps to it.
Also one way to be safe on apps is only add apps that are GNU open sourced which often is even safer then most proprietary apps as anything with spyware will be found out for being the malware it is since it's source code is open to be reviewed by peers.
If the app you want is proprietary closed source then only get it from a known safe source and even if it's signed do your homework first as signed code will not stop crap like the sony rootkit if they have the keys to make said signed code.
Lastly since it runs a unix like OS damage can be limited by not giving an untrusted application root access and setting the root password to something not easily guessed. - SmilingJess, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1This stuff sounds all too complex for me. I am getting my hands on one tonight so hopefully an easy to use interface will be made. I would love to put my own stuff on the phone.
- cyssero, on 04/18/2009, -3/+4With our gigantic 21 million population, it's obviously the next country in mind for Apple.
We're still waiting on the PlayStation 2. - Dracker, on 10/11/2007, -1/+2How come people bitch about Sony's $600 PS3 but rise up to defend Apple's $600 iPhone?
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1How fast is the processor in the iphone? fast enough for skype?
- o0adam0o, on 10/11/2007, -0/+0Since when is 620 rounded to 700? =P
- thegoodsteer, on 10/11/2007, -3/+3What would be the point of spending ~$600 on a touch-screen surface, if you were to put the ugly ass UI of rhythmbox on it?
- sholt, on 10/11/2007, -3/+3what? people buying the phone so they can hack on it?
- danpat, on 10/11/2007, -1/+1WTF??? This thread is about the iPhone, not Fiat.
- MacParrot, on 10/11/2007, -2/+2HA!
Got you beat inkyblue! For today only I'm running a special deal. You can say "***** YOU!" to me TWICE for the price of those other ***** you guys. PLUS, act now and I'll include three, yes three "Screw your mother too" at no extra charge*!
*(offer not valid outside the continental United States. residents of New York, California, and New Mexico must sign a special "***** YOU" waiver to participate. you must be willing to sign up for a trial "***** YOU!" subscription at $10.99 a month. Returned "***** YOU!"'s are subject to a 10% restocking fee) - Wasyu, on 10/11/2007, -0/+0It might be a little slow to run skype as well as your typical PC and doing so will require defeating the signed code feature but it still should work once all the work on making it a useful unlocked device is done.
- Wasyu, on 10/11/2007, -0/+0Figure out how to unlock it so I can use it with a better carrier and remove the silly signed code crap a very stupid feature and I might buy one.
- Wasyu, on 10/11/2007, -0/+0Getting skype will require removing the signed code anti feature and sending it back to the depths of hell were it came from but after that it should be a matter of porting some GNU libs such as SDL to it and building your VOIP app of choice for the platform since it's OS is really just a cut down version of OSX.
- Wasyu, on 10/11/2007, -0/+0Yes they have extra cash but when you crack stuff like this one thing that you can do to be a little safer is back up it's firmware via the jtag port or some other method do that part first once you get that part working the risk of doing permanent damage experimenting goes down.
Also there is the lure of making an ok product better as in the case of the Xbox 1 or the ipod nano running linux which really was are better devices once hacked. -
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