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- fanboydcs, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1just looked into this, its fixed with the latest patches..! yay!
- RyeBrye, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Is it just me, or is this new age of cosumers starting their own websites to complain about minor (and in this case >already resolved
- vatchea, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1UPDATE #2: Installing 8G1165 confirmed to eliminate video problems.
Thank God...I'm getting mine today. - PSUViking, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I think this is an example of an issue which really didn't deserve a blog. It's funny that all of his updates seem to point to the fact that the problem has been solved, perhaps he blogged too soon?
- kanvik, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I have the 20" with the 256MB ATI card and have no problems (build 8G1165)
- fanboydcs, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0im sure a software update will fix it. Dont freak out guys..
- CanuckMakem, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Yeah I've not noticed it on mine?
- 16x9, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2> wrote: "If this was a Windows problem you'd see 50 comments from Apple people begging to start a stability war. I wont thrown the first stone."
You just did. If you really wanted to take the high ground perhaps you might have not written anything at all.
Imagine if you'd written, "If this was a [insertNameOfFavoritePoliticalParty] problem you'd see 50 comments from [insertNameOfLeastFavoritePolicalParty] begging to start a political war. I wont thrown the first stone." Claiming to be above the fray while planting your ass firmly in the muck hardly qualifies you for Sainthood. - luke--, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0the bottom line is atis current/past gen of cards are prone to this. thats why im glad to have switched to nvidia
- kidjay, on 10/12/2007, -0/+08G1165 and no issues
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0another rev. a mac problem... understandable when it's new hardware and software... usually they fix these problems pretty quickly... didn't the rev. a g5 imac have some problem that was fixed by the next software update?
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Regardless, if there are video problems it's ATI's problem isn't it?
- vatchea, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0my imac that is.
- Padriac, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Ha ha. I'm actually the one who made that website. I'm not (nor ever was) "disgruntled". It was all a coincidence really. I just happened to have that blog lying around as I recently switched to a new hosting provider. Even the name consumermachine was completely coincidental (but eerily appropriate).
The original purpsose of that site was to provide a consilated place for documenting the problem (so Apple would take notice) and to figure out a solution. When I originally posted, the probelm was one of those "WTF, how is this possible" things where nobody really knew why the machines were acting funny. As time progressed the small community of psuedo-detectives originating on the Apple boards pulled together and were able to pinpoint the cause of the issue. The reason every update talks about how the problem has been increasingly resolved is because that was the entire point of the site: to resolve the issue. I wasn't trying to throw some internet hiss-fit directed at Apple. It's just that, as Gerkin pointed out above, Apple is particularly forthcoming about problems until they have a fix. There needed to be a place for users to comminicate the issue.
Indeed, if I were the type to make a website just to bitch about problems with my computers, the site I'd make for my Toshiba laptop running Windows XP would probably be 500 posts deep right now. Worst.Computing.Experience.Ever.
And to all those originally dealing with the issue on the Apple boards and chipping in with usefull info: well done! - Bluezdood, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0problems aside, the gui alone makes me consider buying my first apple
- gerkin, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Why is the new trend, when people have problems with their computers, to make websites and freak out when things don't work right. it's BLEEDING EDGE hardware folks, get used to it LOL. Apple is no worse than anyone else in the industry for rushing things out the door. The software catches up, and in Apple's case usually pretty quickly.
In the "old" days we reported bugs to the company. Of course in the real "old" days the company was a little more forthcoming, which Apple seems to have forgotten about. They, instead of giving you (even limited) access to the known bugs database, you have to file a bug then wait for someone to waste their time reading it and marking it as duplicate. You don't get to find out any of the details on it or known workarounds and you don't get to add in to the existing "known" bug.
Well, i guess that answers that question.
Apple please give those of us that bother with the extra effort to use your painful bug system a little more information, huh? Then maybe stuff like this won't happen quite as much because people will KNOW there's an issue and they will KNOW that it's being worked on. - EmmEff, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Chicken Little bought an Intel iMac
- rebrad, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I can understand when MS has a problem with XP. MS supports a wide array of hardware and configurations. But Apple, who dictates their configurations with overwhelming smugness shouldn't have such problems. Doesn't Apple test their hardware for an error that is so obvious? I guess a pretty box equals quality. There have been too many issues like this for Apple lately. From cheesy iPods to cheesy Macs with fixes only after bad publicity. For the money I would expect better.
- vatchea, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0"Macs are crap, thats really new news."
I love your intelligent insight, thank you, we're all much smarter now. - hayden.evans, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0ah yes, I love the Mac OSX Patching system. It's a beautiful thing.
- blurplevtx, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I'm not at all surprised that there may be some hiccups, anytime you buy the first release of anything you risk there being some problems. Sounds like it's fixed anyway.
- oyourmom, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0the whole intel+mac is a problem
- jewdass, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0oh one other thing about rosetta... it's a bit of a memory hog.. I CTO'd the ram to 1gig and I'm already thinking of ordering another gig.
- jewdass, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I'm typing this right now from an imac that has this problem. Spent about an hour on the phone with apple yesterday supplying them with pictures, video, etc. I really want to believe that this is a software problem. What concerns me, though, is that the Apple Hardware Test reports the ATI card's VRAM at 128MB (This problem is happening, afaik, exclusively to people who purchased the 256MB VRAM upgrade)
Just to clear up some misunderstanding, the problem is most definitely NOT patched yet. People are downgrading to an older build of 10.4.4 and report that this fixes it. I have also personally verified that dropping color depth to 16 bit fixes it (but who wants to do that, bleh!) and have heard that connecting an external display also fixes it (I assume because it splits the VRAM).
Like I told the specialist on the phone, this really doesn't bug me too much. I knew what I was in for buying a first gen product. If the worst I get is a cosmetic bug, that is fixed in a point release within a few days, that's not too bad.
The one problem aside this thing works great, rosetta compatibility is much better than I expected (20ish fps on WoW under binary translation) and the thing is FAST with native code (and still faster than any other machine I have around here using Rosetta). Lots of Universal Apps out there to grab, and the ones that didn't have a universal app ready, at least had a timeline on their website.
Bring on the WoW patch!
-jewdass - trogdoor, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0"If this was a Windows problem you'd see 50 comments from Apple people begging to start a stability war. I wont thrown the first stone."
If this were a windows problem it wouldn't have been patched already by the time news got around about it. I honestly think it is the other way around. You don't see posts about every windows glitch but there is a riot after every "vulnerability" that is found but never even exploited on the mac. I am not saying that there aren't far too many flames by mac fanboys in the comments of stories like the WMF exploit but face it if this was a windows problem it never would have made the front page. - asdfer, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0then take it back to Apple already
- MKmultimedia, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1If this was a Windows problem you'd see 50 comments from Apple people begging to start a stability war. I wont thrown the first stone.
- kazsymonds, on 10/12/2007, -3/+0Macs are crap, thats really new news.
- ldenman, on 10/12/2007, -3/+0i'm sick of that lame ass theme that i have seen on about 30 blogs in the past 5 days!
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