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- 7of7, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Seeing how competent those people are almost gives me one of those ET moments. I wish that every person working at huge software companies enjoyed doing what they do as much as those people enjoy doing this. Imagine the quality of software.
- 7of7, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Well, as much as people hate Windows and Vista, at least it will have exactly the functionality mentioned above. I wholeheartedly agree the ability to run as root only on certain occasions is sorely missing in Windows. However, a majority of people will probably still screw it up by typing in their root password whenever a virus asks them to. In any situation, including Windows, the user is the weakest link.
- astern, on 10/12/2007, -0/+17of7,
I have the ultrabay slim hd sled; I dd'd the patched 6 gig image that was released a few days ago onto an extra Toshiba slimline 30 gig laptop hd. I then set that drive as the primary hd and booted VERY quickly into OSX86.
And I did it all from within Windows.
If Apple would release OSX86 seperate from the hardware, I would quickly slap down $130 for it. Their hardware has been ***** for years, the OS rocks witht the hardcore. - kday, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1LaPistola ~
On my Dell, it is runs faster than WinXP... No Joke. Looks beautiful too. Quartz Extreme isn't enabled, but visually, I don't see the difference between my G4 and Dell box. Ethernet, sound, networking and everything. The only problem I have is otf fonts don't work correctly with web browsers (makes them hang). So I deleted them and haven't had a problem in a couple days. - astern, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1To clarify my previous comment, I did all of the downloading and dd'ing in Windows, I booted into OSX86 natively.
OSX86 CANNOT share a drive with another OS. It needs everything to itself. Typical Apple primadonna style. :) - kday, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1"OSX86 CANNOT share a drive with another OS. It needs everything to itself. Typical Apple primadonna style. :)"
What exactly do you mean by "share a drive"? Do you mean Dual booting? OS X can dual boot with windows. There are guides on how to do this.
If you mean you can't see a windows drive in OS X, yes you can. You just have to mount the NTFS drive.
If you mean you can't connect to a network drive, Sure you can. OS X comes with samba. Go -> Connect to server -> smb://servername - astern, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1kday, I was under the impression that OSX86 requires it's own bootloader and cannot be set up to dual boot with Windows or Linux.
Thanks for clarifying that. Could you post the loaction of the guide to enable dual-booting? I would like to go back and forth between XP and OSX - tekmonkey, on 10/22/2007, -1/+1Nevermind, just temporary.
- KdoggMDF, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1hmm... seems to be digged to death... MySQL is giving max user error.. heh.
- kday, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Looks like Apple could eventually have more than just a small community of hackers installing OS X on their home PC.... not that that is necessarily a bad thing. It could shift Apple's decision from staying a proprietary company to opening their OS to the public. The transition of Windows to OS X could take people and companies a few years, but since it is a more secure OS and already has all the necessary applications, it will happen. If Apple started bundling their OS with PC computes, imagine the money they would make.
The bad thing about this? We will start seeing all that crap software (AOL, Earthlink, etc) trashing the OS since some idiot will call them a Monopoly. I downloaded my Windows XP for my laptop because the legal version was completely trashed with advertisements and icons all over the desktop. - kinggroove, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0can anyone tell me if your running mac operating system on a pc does this mean no viruses thanks
- 7of7, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Does someone have an easy way to do what astern is talking about having done? I know there's all this patching and darwinning and whatnot, but I'm only gonna erase my Linux partition if it's relatively easy to install OSX86. That being said, I really want to try.
- LaPistola, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I have this running.... IT ROCKS!! Faster than any G5 ;)
- astern, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I agree with LaPistola...
I have OSX86 running natively on my IBM Thinkpad T43 at A-*****-MAZING speeds. I would like to have Quartz Extreme but that's up to Apple to support on my Dothan Pentium M. :)
Another note, how ironic is it that OSX86 is running on an IBM machine?
Never say never, I guess - kday, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0"When will people learn. If everyone was using OSX it would be just as insecure and windows, but no one bothers so much because such a small percentage of users are using it."
I used to say the same thing. The truth is OS X will be more secure then windows, even if it had 90% of the market. Why? You need a administrator password to install ANYTHING in OS X. If Windows forced you to use a limited account, it could be just as secure IMO. - CasetheAce, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0if someone was to distribute a DVD version of Mac OS x86 - dont think apple would go after them?
- nextsteposx, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0This is GREAT!!!! My dream has come true, no more looking and waiting for Apple to come out with faster hardware. Feeling ripped off by their slow CPU's. Now CPU speed worries are the thing of the past with Intel. Also OS X runs on cheap hardware. BEST OF BOTH WORLDS, APPLE you rule!!!
- lol999, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Just remove the crap after the URL
http://www.concretesurf.co.nz/osx86/viewtopic.php?t=327 - althe3rduww, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0celeron... oh man, you definatly could use some assistance.
- xerox, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0User sbeehre has already more than 'max_user_connections' active connections
- sudonim, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0dimitrius, yah I guarantee all this faster than G5 stuff is *****. I have never used a G5 and don't expect my Pentium M too be anywhere near as fast (but uses much less power, isn't that one of the main points of the intel move). I was thinking of going with a Mac when I bought my laptop but feature wise there was just no comparison, my Asus laptop looks pretty slick (while not as nice as a P-Book I admit) and actually has the features I want (widescreen, huge res, dvd burner, good gfx card). Now if I can get the OS I want I'll be happy as a clam.
- TA_Superman, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0"my favorite is the idiots who are all "Runs faster than ANY G5." - how would you broke morons even know. You've never owned a G5. And honestly... do you think your Centrino can really match a G5? c'mon..."
Dude, the G5 is not a ferrari, get over it lol. G5's arent exactly the only advanced processors in the world. And why are you comparing mobile power saving technology with a mostly server/workstation processor? Makes no sense. Apples and oranges my friend.
ANYWAYS, yes you can dual boot. Here's the guide I followed:
http://wiki.osx86project.org/wiki/index.php/Dual_Booting
It involves Grub for windows, but i found after you boot into OS x86 you can go to system preferences->disk access and pick the default OS to boot, then xp's bootloader will be replaced by Darwin's bootloader which can boot both Windows and OS X. Yep i've done it :D - thasmadawg, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Anyone know if theres a fix for the "still waiting for root device" error?
- JeffS, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I can't wait for Apple to start nailing all the people doing this. Don't think they will? It would be free press for the new OS and macs.
- kday, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Guys -
There is a very nice wiki that is constantly being updated if you need info on how to do something.
http://wiki.osx86project.org/wiki/index.php/Main_Page
:) - dimitrius, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1my favorite is the idiots who are all "Runs faster than ANY G5." - how would you broke morons even know. You've never owned a G5. And honestly... do you think your Centrino can really match a G5? c'mon...
- xerox, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0"And honestly... do you think your Centrino can really match a G5? c'mon..."
i think my 64 athlon can more than match your G5 - digit9, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Is there a site out there yet that is rounding up all these OSX on x86 efforts? There seem to be 5 of these posts coming out a day now and it would be nice to have once single place to go to sort it all out.
- kkessler, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0SSE3 is not required to boot only to run iTunes and the DVD player. Boots and runs VERY quickly on a Celeron 2.8 GHz
- joeuttaro, on 06/06/2008, -0/+0ladies and gentlemen ... the death of Apple.
- TA_Superman, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0SSE3 is required to install natively from the DVD though, otherwise you have to use other methods such as ditto and dd'ing. The point of that thread is to get an installable DVD that works on all machines. But it's still being worked on
- ChrisB, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0It won't "install on any machine" - it still requires SSE3 (i.e. AMD64, P4 or certain Celerons)...
- a17th, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0With regard to the speed comparison:
http://www.appleinsider.com/article.php?id=1175 - a17th, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I'm sure that the speed increase noted in the above article has to do with a fast P4s advantage in terms of single-thread execution. If put to task on a very multi-threaded application, or in a multi-tasking situation, I'd bet that a dual 2.7 Ghz G5 is still king of the hill.
Apple has stated that this is more about the future than the present, and more about efficiency than pure performance. G5s are great but try running them on batteries. - 7of7, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0Oh yeah, nvm, forgot I don't have SSE3 (Pentium M 760) Wake me when I can install and use OS X on my PC.
- jonnymj, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1When will people learn. If everyone was using OSX it would be just as insecure and windows, but no one bothers so much because such a small percentage of users are using it.
- kday, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0Eh, my grammar is all fubared in the last post. I wish digg had a way for me to edit my post before all the grammar nazi's come.
- TheGoog, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0?my favorite is the idiots who are all "Runs faster than ANY G5." - how would you broke morons even know. You've never owned a G5. And honestly... do you think your Centrino can really match a G5? c'mon..."
I'm not one to argue that the architecture behind the G% procs isnt any good. But I'd feel confident saying that its becoming more and more obvious that x86 archicture is more efficient overall at running OSX and its software. I use dual G5's at school with Shake and a few other media intensive programs. And I also have been using these same programs on my Venice core AMD64 at home with OSx86. I myself was suprised to see how fast it ran on the AMD64. I myself believe that this could be the best choice Apple has made in a long time as far as its OS side has gone. I'm back on Jobs' side. - tekmonkey, on 10/22/2007, -2/+0Seems to be dead. :|
- jesusphreak, on 10/12/2007, -5/+0Wow...a Digg story about Mac OSX, how suprising!
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