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- themurph2099, on 10/12/2007, -6/+38Yeah, the article mentions that.
- Kale, on 10/12/2007, -14/+41Microsoft is really moving up on my coolness radar. I'm even considering installing Vista on my C2D Macbook pro :o
Yay for capitalism! (this time) - Zipp425, on 10/12/2007, -2/+22Interesting... I hadnt even thought of the 360 as being in the same market as iTV... boy, I was wrong.
- Chewie67, on 10/12/2007, -6/+25I used to feel that way too. I was vehemently opposed to any plan that didn't end up with me owning the video.
Then I looked over at the shelf of movies I own on DVD that I never watch.
Now I'm leaning towards rentals. I can usually watch a movie 4 times for the price it costs to buy it. That's better value -- for me. Your mileage may vary. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -7/+24Core system shipments are a small fraction of total Xbox 360 shipments to stores because nobody is buying them.
Even taking that into account, I would assume that the current number of Xbox 360 owners that have a hard drive is already larger than the total number of iTV units Apple might hope to sell in the entire lifetime of that product.
I doubt this will be a war to win the hearts and minds of consumers -- clearly Microsoft already won. It's a war to have the best features -- and in this war, consumers are the ones who win. :) - sphetr2, on 10/12/2007, -1/+16Umm... HD content on a what...3.5 inch screen? Yea, OK.....
- koregaonpark, on 10/12/2007, -12/+26We win "for the win"?
- johnholmes, on 10/12/2007, -4/+16@ilyag
You may be correct, but saying that the 360 can do EVERYTHING the iTV will may be a little premature; we don't yet know what the iTV will do as it has not yet been released! - falloutsyndrome, on 10/12/2007, -7/+19I stand by that the 360 was the best entertainment purchase I've made to this date.
- mousy, on 10/12/2007, -11/+21I don't like the idea of just "renting" movies. If i pay, i expect to keep it, unless the price is low...
- chris9902, on 10/12/2007, -3/+13the Zune is only 30gb and can't display HD content. I wonder if they provide a token system so if I buy a film on my Xbox I could then download it in lower quality for my Zune online.
seems like a fair way of doing it. - pollardito, on 10/12/2007, -6/+15Fun Fact #4: this service comes out in 2 weeks, the iTV comes out...well, no one knows?
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -15/+24"This is cool for gamer geeks but there is no way a typical American will buy a 360 for this. They will buy something like Apple's solution if they're interested."
I have a few fun facts for you:
Fun Fact #1: Most typical American families own at least one videogame console.
Fun Fact #2: The price of the iTV will be similar to that of the Xbox 360 (more so in a year or two, after Xbox price drops).
Fun Fact #3: The Xbox 360 offers more value to consumers by being able to do EVERYTHING that the iTV can do, plus the ability to play several hundred next-generation videogames (and is affordably upgradeable to play HD-DVD movies)
When you put these three fun facts together, most Americans will choose the Xbox 360 over the iTV... or at least those who are willing to spend a few minutes to research and compare the features of these two expensive pieces of consumer electronics (i.e. everyone). - valkyries, on 10/12/2007, -6/+13"and right now, with the iTV I basically get to stream stuff from my Mac to my television."
errr right now with my Xbox360 i can stream video, audio, and pictures to my tv with XP Pro(and yes im doing this w/o media edition) i can even plug my ipod to the 360 and i can view all the songs on the screen and play the audio from my ipod. so for only 100$ more id go with the 360 for the added gaming capabilities. - sphetr2, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8He means the concept of "the competing of companies yielding a win for consumers" should go for the win.
- StarManta, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7'You have to sleep sometime.'
Clearly you are not a gamer... - duke_nate, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7Honestly, I say screw em :-)
- falloutsyndrome, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8There's a thing called X-drive, you can throw on one of your larger sata drives to the 360.
- envy860, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7I believe 3 points would yield a triangle, not a circle.
- warox, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6"with XP Pro(and yes im doing this w/o media edition)"
Wow, this is possible? I failed and stopped trying b/c I have XP Pro and thought I needed Media Edition. Please provide me with information how I can do this with my own setup. - thejokell, on 10/12/2007, -10/+16Competition is always good, but I'm not sure if the crossover for these two products is as big as some people are making it out to be. The XBox is made for games first, and people who buy it do so to play games. Downloading TV shows and Movies is a perk of the system.
The "iTV," however, will be specifically made as a component for playing movies and tv shows. It will be made to do these things in a much simpler (and more than likely, better) way than an all-in-one system.
Personally I have no need for a gaming system (well, maybe a Wii) so I will not be looking at an XBox. However I will be considering an "iTV" when it is released. - liquilife, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7There is also a thing called "Transcoding" which allows you to stream any movie type through the media center to your 360. :D
- chris9902, on 10/12/2007, -9/+15nothing is stopping core owners buying a HDD. Anyone would think Microsoft hires somebody to stand next to you 360 to stop you doing that the way people go on about it.
- Ireland, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7When the iTV is announced with HD content and 802.11n wireless networking, not to mention Apple ease-of-use, and true iPod Video & iPhone integration things may look a little different.
- liquilife, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6That is actually a really good point. The only helpful information I know about that is you can start watching your movie while it is downloading.
- sphetr2, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Yeah, it's cheaper like that. The iTV is more of a dedicated TV service, while the 360 is a gaming console that can also do this. So iTV probably has room to keep the movies and shows on the HD, while the 360 needs room for game saves, and adding more space would raise the price for consumers.
So, renting is the ideal solution for the lack of space. Personally, I only watch movies I buy like once or twice after I buy them, so I like this. - jonnyeh, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7Still can't beat a modded xbox 1. The Xbox Media Center's got it all! (Except a tuner, but that's obsolete anyways)
- sundancekid503, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7Well what would you expect? Should they let you keep the movie forever in a usable form as long as you promise not to watch it again?
This is the only way a service like this could work. - wwwdeveloper, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7From Time article:
"Movies may reach 4GB in size, and will be encoded in the "720p" high-def spec, which means each widescreen frame will have a pixel resolution of 1,280 x 720. Where possible, the files will include a Dolby Digital 5.1 surround-sound track. The files will take 6 or 7 hours to download over a cable broadband connection, according to Microsoft."
- I like the idea, but how many folks are going to want to wait to play an online game for 7 hours because their internet connection is being whored out with movie downloads? - djSyndrome, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5No. The Wii can't even do 720p video, and doesn't include a hard drive.
That's not to say the Wii won't be lots of fun - I'm getting one next weekend myself - but a media playback device it is not. - mrmontrose, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6How do you know how loud the PS3 is? If you have one who did you blow to get one? You probably don't even have a X360 but nevertheless you bash it.
Sorry I am just sick of people talking about ***** that know nothing about. They are just fan boys - mandarin, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5So you're laughing at something you dont have yet right?
- EnderSpartan117, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5I love this idea, but my whole opinion could change when I hear the price for the downloads.
- Allanon, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4They are renting movies for $3 - $7 for 24 hours and selling TV shows for $2 with no time restrictions. Since you are paying about the standard price as a rental you should not be able to keep the movie. But I do have a problem with the cost of a TV show. Imagine trying to replace cable with XBox 360 TV show downloads. Say I watch 3 shows a night, that would be about $180 a month. Right now I'm paying about $30 a month for cable so it really isn't feasible to replace cable. If they charged $10 a month for unlimited TV show downloads then it might be worth it.
- magnusdopus, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4What will be interesting is how the cable companies will react. This goes straight at their pay-per-view model. I don't think Microsoft has ever been in direct conflict with cable.
- NicP, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4"plus Apple has taken the wrong strategy in my opinion in regards to iTunes. If it was an open system and other software could be used to interface with the iPod I think the sales would be a lot higher."
Doesn't the zune use a closed system too? - etjazz, on 10/12/2007, -6/+10This feature would be great if it wasn't for those loud fans. And to all you who say the noise comes from the DVD-ROM, you're wrong. I purchased a Xbox360 a year ago, and my unit sounds like a damn Dyson even when I'm in the xbox dashboard.
- Kale, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5I have a 2nd gen Mac Mini attached to my TV, and I use Front Row on it (I got a 250GB external HD). It's kind of a pain to set up all my TV Shows to work under iTunes (You have to set every episode as a TV Series), but for music and movies, it works pretty well, even on SD.
Works great for NES and SNES emulation too :D - ShakeWell, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5first of all, don't condemn the fact that it will be a rental service without knowing the final pricing plan first, if it's reasonably lower than the cost to buy a movie to own, then it will be well worth it. most people don't actually watch most movies more than once. with all these complains about you don't get to "own" the movies, you'd think blockbuster went out of business long ago...
second, who actually wants to watch full-length feature films on their ipod? the eye strain can't be good for ya, and you know that nice TV in your living room? yeah, that's there for a reason. I really doubt a significant of the ipod users are actually going to be watching movies much on them. Music vids, clips, and half-hour shows are of course a whole different story. - amandaw33, on 10/12/2007, -3/+7I use my XBox each day to watch recorded TV... I highly disagree. It'd have to be a very quiet moment in a movie for me to notice the xbox.
- MacParrot, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Something that no one seems to be addressing is the future of the entertainment industry. Right now, we still have "Networks" and dedicated cable channels that funnel the shows we want to watch to us at the times they say they're going to be on. This is changing.
The wave of the future is Content on Demand. You can already see the first effects happening with commercial radio. As soon as the big companies were allowed to, they bought up all the stations and made them as vanilla and as non-offensive as they could. Podcasting (Netcasting whatever) is hurting radio in a big way. WHY? Content on Demand. Why should I have to sit and wait for some Radio personality to come on? Podcasting lets me choose the topics and the delivery method and the time of day that I listen to it. Commercial radio is dying and sattelite radio won't be far behind.
Video is next. Apple and MS see this, hence the XBox 360 and iTunes/iTV. Cable companies are scared to death of it as are the networks. They pay lip service to it with pay-per-view, but the experience is crippled and non-intuitive.
Imagine this: Instead of turning on your TV and having to look through a guide to see what's on, you decide what kind of entertainment you want. Comedy, movies, drama, sports, animation, whatever, and a drop down list of shows with brief synopsis appear. Select your show, a brief opening commercial (the price you pay for free content), maybe one more part way through and you watch it when you want. The producers of content wouldn't have to peddle them to networks or cable channels, they just upload them and hope enough people want to watch it enough for commercials to cover the cost. Advertise them through podcasts or other more popular shows (If you like Bikini Detectives, you'll LOVE Lesbians with Guns!)
Content on Demand. This is where the industry is heading. Unload that Blockbuster stock because they won't be around 5 to 10 years from now. - magnusdopus, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6I don't think that's such a big deal. People who buy, buy the DVD, not an online download.
- sundancekid503, on 10/12/2007, -3/+6The disc tray is the noise you're referring to, the fans are very silent. When you play downloaded content the disc won't be spinning so it wont be a problem.
Even if the disc tray was spinning you'd only be able to hear it if the sound of your movie was turned all the way down.
Not a problem. - mtrip, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4You have to sleep sometime.
- Chewie67, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5See my comment above. I used to feel the same way. Unfortunately, there's something different about a movie versus music. I can listen to a song I like hundreds of times, and still enjoy it. I can't do that with a movie.
Case in point: The Sixth Sense. Great movie. The ending is totally unexpected. Once you've seen it once, however, you may want to watch it again to see if you can catch any hints along the way, but you're not going to watch it dozens of times. The cat is out of the bag.
I'm beginning to think that I'd rather rent a movie for $2.99 than buy it for $10.99. - exobyte, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3This might also do a little damage to PS3. Microsoft has significantly more experience with online content (Xbox Live), so their implementation will probably be cleaner.
I guess parent is right, now Sony has to work on this, too. - Solafa, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4There are 2 camps out there, the i buy to own (i buy a $0.99 song and i own it for life but it costs more) and the i rent (i pay monthly for as many songs as i want but when i stop paying i cant use it) people. I for one rather pay once and own that damn thing and not have to worry if i payed for this month of next. Some people might want to pay monthly for all the music they can have. In the music market apple has won hands down but maybe in the movie/tv show market were people dont re-view the content Microsoft might have the upper hand.
I rather own my music and listen to them all the time and pay a monthly amount (kinda low) and watch as many tv shows as i want. - GyroLC, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Now they just need to make the 360 act as a DVR. I'd definitely get one then.
- iamcool, on 10/12/2007, -3/+6What apple really needed to do was price the iTV at 149, if possible 99. While I love apple's products, I already have a 360, so..... You get the point. I'm sure there are others in the same boat as I am.
- ShakeWell, on 10/12/2007, -7/+10gee, i wonder how blockbuster stays in business...
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