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- Radan, on 10/11/2007, -7/+116I'm 90% sure that this is native as well, as Epic has made the engine themselves, and their major selling point of their engine is of course that it is multi platform compatible.
Anyway, this is really, really good news! Not just because the Mac platform will finally get some new good games, but because of this, both ID's and Epic's engines runs natively on the Mac which means that all the future games that uses any of those engines will run on the Mac without any or at least a very small number of changes in the source code.
For example, before, one of the main reasons that the Mac platform didn't get as many games ported to it, was because it would be too expensive for a third party developer like for example Aspyr or Macsoft to port the whole engine themselves (if you look at the current games that exists for the Mac 90% of them runs on the Quake engine, which ran natively on both the Mac and the PC).
Now, all we need is the Source and the Crytech engines and the Mac gaming will shine once again.
Quake Wars, Gears of War and Unreal Tournament 3. Mmmm, this is indeed a good day for Mac gaming :) - TehSwat, on 10/11/2007, -26/+99(Mac Joke)
Wow, now Mac users can play, SEVEN 3-d games.
(/macjoke) - Danl, on 10/11/2007, -11/+58Me: "Hey Marcus, how many copies do you think it'll sell"
Marcus Fenix: "I don't think I can count that high..."
awesome news - Hortnon, on 10/11/2007, -12/+52Native support or emulated (like EA)?
- Reno582, on 10/11/2007, -1/+31The Unreal Engine has always been a cross-platform engine so yeah, native.
- CraigCarlyle, on 10/11/2007, -3/+29The only reason why I still use Windows, the only reason I built a new PC a few weeks back, is for gaming. If EA and Epic do really well on the Mac platform, hopefully they'll inspire other developers to follow. If a large amount of PC games came to OS X, I would probably never use Windows again.
I'm sure both Epic and EA were inspired by Blizzard. - davidjunit, on 10/11/2007, -4/+28Bah, it'll look fine on a 7-series GeForce.
- superkendall, on 10/11/2007, -9/+31It's not emulated. It's an API translation call, very thin - almost no performance loss. So, who cares if it's using that wrapper or is written in Cocoa, as long as it plays well?
- Reno582, on 10/11/2007, -3/+25thats why I hope Apple comes out with a mid-tower mac, one PCI-E x16 slot, 4GB of ram max, and a mid-core 2 dual, you know something smaller than the Mac Pro but larger than the mac mini and upgradable...
- NateB2, on 10/11/2007, -20/+41Sooo.... What's the highest graphics card you can get with a mac? 7xxx nVidia card? 86xx nVidia card in a macbook pro? And you think GOW will look decent?
- flipmeat, on 10/11/2007, -0/+19Hey pal, you try battling the enormous Russell Brown boss on the 47th level of Photoshop sometime. :-)
p.s. We had Halo 1 first. Pthbhthbh. - directive0, on 10/11/2007, -9/+27Interesting. A Mac game gets essentially rewritten to be an extremely popular Xbox release title, and now things come full circle and an extremely popular xbox 360 title gets ported to mac.
- mavranos, on 11/06/2007, -3/+21BAH! Speak for yourself. I love my Mac, all my Apple products and I love my 360. This is great news!
- Radan, on 10/11/2007, -0/+17Hey! Do not underestimate the power of the built in 3D Chess application!
- s1mph0ny, on 10/11/2007, -0/+17Or maybe iD? They've only been supporting everything for twice to three times as long.
- Me1000, on 11/06/2007, -3/+19for those digging him down, he is correct, Halo was suppose to be a Mac exclusive game. but M$ bought it out...
- dark_helmet, on 10/11/2007, -2/+18If you're going to bash, get your facts straight first. You can easily get fairly high end video cards for Macs. For example, the MacBook Pro has an 8600M GT, which for a laptop is good. iMacs aren't really power machines, they're fashion statements, so skip them. the Mac Pro has the option for a X1900XT, which isn't horrible, and could probably handle gears. As for the CPU, guess what? They're the same as any other X86. I'm not an apple fanboy, i just can't stand people who bash something without any facts to back them self up.
- mtownand1, on 10/11/2007, -3/+18It's native. "It appears these are coming to the Mac natively, not through the magic of Cider, according to this comment from MacSoft's Ryan Gordon: "And no, neither game is using Cider." Impressive."
- s1mph0ny, on 11/06/2007, -2/+16Yeah, the Geforce 7800 is stronger than the x360 gpu.
- mcsloy, on 10/11/2007, -4/+17source engine is the one I want on a mac :)
- yournamehere, on 10/11/2007, -0/+12so by 'NOW' you mean 'LATER'
- ThinkBox, on 11/06/2007, -2/+13my 8600 GT and my core 2 duo 2.4ghz should make my 1920x1200 scree look pretty good running GoW
- f0dder, on 11/06/2007, -10/+21Why would xbox users care about mac users getting their sloppy seconds.
- BabyWookie, on 10/11/2007, -2/+13Ditto. I like my 360 and my MacBook Pro, but I am not a fanboy of either company.
- s1mph0ny, on 10/11/2007, -3/+14Or you could be a non-jackass and just realize that Epic is one of few high-visibility multi-platform developers. They're almost certainly losing money by going to the mac market, they break even on Linux, and admit that they still only do it because of all the servers.
- bsolidgold, on 10/11/2007, -5/+16When will people learn that using a colon in the wrong context only makes you look stupid?
- Brutusfly, on 10/11/2007, -2/+13...and Windows owners.
- runeasgar, on 10/11/2007, -1/+11No.
Macs run on a modified BSD kernel, but the operating system that runs things like games is a separate dependency. Not to mention Linux and BSD are hardly the same thing. - bethlagarrison, on 10/11/2007, -1/+11Wait a second.. I have a Mac, and I love my 360 to death.
Does that mean the universe is going to implode or something? - stauken, on 10/11/2007, -2/+11It's just flat comical to me to think that someone who has a 360 must decisively and implicitly hate Macs. Despise Apple more than Sony? Hell I appreciated Apple AND Microsoft both a lot more when I found out my iPod works on the 360 with just a software patch. *****, go mac!
- jp007, on 10/11/2007, -2/+11What about online? I thought Gears was only going to have online multiplayer through the "Games for Windows: Live" service. That infrastructure is not available on anything but Vista. Gears with no online component would suck ass. So, will they be offering two ways to play online? One consisting of the standard online multiplayer we're all accustomed to, and another option to play over live? And I believe most of us have heard about Live hooks being integrated into the Unreal engine. How is this going to affect online gaming? Are we all going to be paying a Microsoft tax just to use our internet connections for gaming? I for one hope that the fragging remains free. I hope this doesn't start a new trend of paying for online, like Bethesda started the whole Horse Armour micropayment trend..
- frygar, on 10/11/2007, -1/+10Uh, Halo, made by Bungie, fine purveyors of all things Marathon back in the day?
- TheWorm, on 10/11/2007, -1/+9no
- s1mph0ny, on 10/11/2007, -0/+8@Dan: maybe if either you or the poster was thinking, you'd see that the title is inaccurate and mal-formed.
- frogstik, on 10/11/2007, -3/+11isn't the MacBook Pro's new video card pretty okay? it's a 8600M GT I think isn't it? I don't keep up too much on video cards anymore...
- john2kx, on 10/11/2007, -0/+8but how many times are you willing to "just send it in"?
- ChileanGoD, on 10/11/2007, -3/+11All they need now is video cards.
- Dylson, on 10/11/2007, -2/+10It's native. Ok, you can digg me down now.
- bsolidgold, on 10/11/2007, -1/+8Unlikely
- s1mph0ny, on 10/11/2007, -0/+7They'll continue supporting linux. They need the server support, and they wont have it without tossing a bone to linux users.
- Reno582, on 10/11/2007, -2/+9too bad its not going to happen.
- CptAJ, on 10/11/2007, -5/+12What about linux, goddamnit? The ***** engine is multi-platform. There's no excuse for this being released only for Mac. In fact, given Mac's hardware issues they're not even the right platform for it.
- fantasticFlan, on 10/11/2007, -0/+6Or, more likely, better crossplatform support.
- panzergeist, on 10/11/2007, -1/+7Only ***** worry about misplaced colons.
(Thank you and goodnight.) - fantasticFlan, on 10/11/2007, -0/+6No, but if it's on Mac then it isn't dependant on DirectX and so should be easier to port to Linux.
- CompIsMyRx, on 10/11/2007, -0/+6I wonder then if Gears of War will also have a Linux release. Very little difference between Mac OS X and Linux when it comes to hardware access (both use OpenGL).
- panzergeist, on 10/11/2007, -6/+12So you're little $1200 PC (including monitor) has two 2.66GHz dual-core Intel Xeons with 2GB RAM and an ATI X1900XT 512? That, by the way, is what you can get for $3000 from Apple. Somehow, I doubt that.
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -0/+6They damn well better put the same one inside the new iMac. I am sick of this X1600 crap.
- 98acura, on 10/11/2007, -2/+8Unreal Tournament 2004 had linux support. Never tried it personally, but i know on the back of the case there was a little penguin. Why would they now support OS X and not Linux?
- greenamp, on 10/11/2007, -5/+11You're a ***** idiot. You can put any graphics card you want in a Mac Pro. And compared to other laptops and all-in-one machines in the same price range as MBPs and iMacs, they do just fine.
ps: OS X has multi-threaded OpenGL. Look into that sometime when you realize it's 2000 ***** 7. -
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