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- aristotle0dude, on 04/03/2009, -4/+35Radio? Do you want us to get off your lawn sir?
- eon42, on 04/03/2009, -1/+30If you have a jailbroken iphone, you can use "VoIPover3G" and it will let you use skype ever while you're not on WiFi. Ive tried this and it works great.
- Megor, on 04/03/2009, -0/+23Skype has worked fine on windows mobile for years, I guess it helps to not be in a platform that requires permission from anyone to let you create applications.
- c010rb1indusa, on 04/03/2009, -1/+20WTF is their problem, they already are getting about $100 bucks a month from everyone who has a 3G and they give you a ***** of minutes that also rollover. How many people actually use all their minutes on an iPhone Plan? What are they afraid of aren't they making enough money.
- moberry, on 04/03/2009, -0/+18I agree. Apple would have long ago been sued into oblivion if they were half the size of Microsoft.
- deaddjembe, on 04/03/2009, -0/+18You are already paying for the data plan, why should they choose which data you can and cannot send/receive?
- mwalker05, on 04/03/2009, -1/+18so maybe cell phone companies should change their business model to catch up with the times? or should we continue to bend over for our wireless carriers so we can use the same technology thats been around for a decade?
- AmazingSteve, on 04/03/2009, -0/+17And THAT's why anti-competition laws exist. It's called adapt or perish.
- newsboys, on 04/03/2009, -0/+17Exactly - this is the point. You are paying for your data usage already, so you are not putting the cell companies out of business - you're using their data plan! They just want to be able to rip you off 100 times over with the absurd rates they charge for long distance even though it costs them no more than other types of data. Text messages are the worst. 1 MB of text messages costs something like $80. It's crazy absurd.
- danc4498, on 04/03/2009, -0/+12Too bad the government doesn't really care about the consumer.
- danc4498, on 04/03/2009, -0/+12We'll see... After Google removed tethering applications, it's no longer the open environment it was advertised as.
- etechonline2002, on 04/03/2009, -6/+17wireless carriers will rape you fire every cent. thats why i use 2 way radios for local use and skype on a laptop for everything else.
http://dispatched.tk/
call sign: Zero 2 - priegog, on 04/03/2009, -1/+12No bro.
At least in the US, a BIG chunk of the infrastructure was paid for by your tax dollars. Same with ISP's. This is a ***** argument that get's spewed out so often by those companies that you're already starting to believe it. What a shame... - AmazingSteve, on 04/03/2009, -1/+11***** man grab a clue. How exactly is Skype, using WiFi, leeching off the carrier's network? They just don't want a means for making calls that DOESN'T use their network. Come back when you've got a leg to stand on.
- duncanspumpkin, on 04/03/2009, -0/+9stolen from FML.
- drex8, on 04/03/2009, -0/+9We need a handicapped Skype logo for the iPhone, because it's crippled. Like the Skype logo on a handicapped chair.
- uknowwhoibe, on 04/03/2009, -0/+9I agree. Why can't AT&T (et al.) come up with their own Skype program? Why are they letting Skype handle the MAJORITY of international phone calls now?
This is the same thing as the MAFIAA.
Your failed business model is not my problem. - priegog, on 04/03/2009, -1/+10Then why don't you tell me what makes the telco's entitled to the pieces of the network they didn't pay for?
Skype gets the right because that's what CONSUMERS (aka taxpayers, aka the REAL owners of those parts of the network) want to use.
Is it any clearer to you now? Or should I make a drawing? - samyoungguitar, on 04/03/2009, -0/+9Skype should team up with someone to create a SkypePhone. That would rule.
- PxCxG, on 04/03/2009, -0/+9Dugg because you sound like the sort of person who has a list of "people to kill" -- full of all the people who have wronged you in life. Just remember, etechonline2002, next time you are smearing lipstick all over your face that I dugg you... I dugg you!
- AmazingSteve, on 04/03/2009, -0/+9AGAIN. The problem is people have a way to make calls without using the carrier's network. The carrier see no money for the call because it bypasses them entirely, that's the problem that they have with it.
- mcnasby, on 04/03/2009, -1/+9I was at a networking event with where there was a Sprint/WiMax rep speaking. I asked the question if they were going to put up bandwidth caps and limitations on data use for the network. His response was "It's necessary to keep these protections in place in order to provide the best user experience."
What a load of horse *****. - priegog, on 04/03/2009, -0/+8This GaltShrugged guy is either completely clueless, an absolute redneck (not mutually exclusive) or patently being payed by the industry to regurgitate FUD.
A large part of the telco's infrastructure was payed for by the people's tax dollars. The taxpayers should be the ones choosing how to use the network, not the carriers. - mwalker05, on 04/03/2009, -0/+7yea, i can post random stories from fmylife.com too. but if i was doing it i would just copy and paste in order to avoid the typos.
- cubicledrone, on 04/03/2009, -0/+7Except they didn't provide billions for anything except catered lunches. Our tax money paid for the phone system. Their competitors wouldn't put them in the "poorhouse" if they didn't have an inferior product.
- ATL, on 06/20/2009, -0/+7:facepalm:
- MasterGrief, on 04/03/2009, -1/+8Dugg for combination of sheer absurdity and practicality. Sounds like this fellow'll be ready when the apocalypse comes!
- inactive, on 04/03/2009, -1/+7Ha ha. Have you seen the Android Skype app? It uses cellular minutes to dial skype servers, and then make the calls from there.
one word = fail. - depro9, on 04/03/2009, -3/+9wimax will fix their greed problem.
- MikeFromAmerica, on 04/03/2009, -1/+7Greed can drive innovation in a free market but phone companies don't operate in anything close to resembling a free market in the U.S. They're government-granted monopolies that collude with each other to maintain the status quo.
- Tanth, on 04/03/2009, -0/+6I pay over $100 per month for my mobile calling and data. I don't understand why the mobile companies cannot be happy with that instead of trying to gouge me at every turn. I would gladly also pay them for Skype like VoIP access if they provided it and it was competitive with Skype. I will always support people who hack devices and systems and generally screw "The Man" because "The Man" has gotten fat, lazy and greedy.
- depro9, on 04/03/2009, -0/+6*****!
- 45441, on 04/03/2009, -0/+6Welcome to the party. You're a little late.
- 4degrees, on 04/03/2009, -0/+6*cough* cisco *cough*
- byoung2, on 04/03/2009, -0/+6I think that Skype for iPhone only works through WiFi because AT&T put a restriction on it. The article suggests that it could be possible for a carrier in another country to allow Skype to use 3G as well, but so far they are all taking AT&T's lead and restricting it too.
- Cjaiceman, on 04/03/2009, -2/+7I've used skype on my windows mobile based HTC TyTN II for some time, and the new beta is just as good as ever. I have not had any problems over HSDPA w/ Skype. This just gives me another reason why I will never own an iPhone. I ALMOST feel sorry for people with an iphone, it much suck to own suck a powerful piece of hardware that is so locked down.
- AmazingSteve, on 04/03/2009, -1/+6Sooo what you're saying is that people should bend to a business's need? Business is a service, not the other way around sport and we're in an age now whereservices that business denies the public can be easily obtained anyway. Life ain't fair, deal with it.
- kiddcode, on 04/03/2009, -0/+5AT&T is restricting competition. If they want to offer a data service, then fine. If they want to charge 1 million/month for it, fine (although I don't think too many people would sign up for that). But they should not be allowed to offer a gimped version of the internet that blocks other business' services so they can sell that same service to you at non-competitive rates.
- 4degrees, on 04/03/2009, -0/+4you forgot the third option, government bailout if you happen to fail quite miserably.
- clickmyface, on 04/03/2009, -0/+3It's not an Apple limitation, it's a carrier limitation. Google is not exempt from carrier limitations. You're a bit delusional.
- raptor87, on 04/04/2009, -0/+3Apple is trying to make it a violation of the DMCA to jailbreak your phone, regardless if that argument is ethical or not its a shame you have to do so in the first place.
- NeoTechni, on 04/03/2009, -1/+4Says the Ferengi
- MarcQue, on 04/03/2009, -1/+4http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linksys_iPhone
- cosmos411, on 04/03/2009, -0/+3we're already paying for their freaking minutes, what we do with them is our own business. They aren't going to go broke, they just won't make as much money to hand out as bonuses.
The same argument can be had for the internet. With your logic ISPs shouldn't allow VOIP either. After all, companies like Skype are just piggy backing a technology they didn't help pay for. - deathandtaverns, on 04/03/2009, -0/+3I understand that it's easier, cheaper and more efficient to have one company do all these things and that they use the same towers and that cellphone service is basically VOIP anyways but I think that things like this highlight why it's important not to let one company control every piece of a particular industry. Wireless companies don't like twitter and skype used on their wireless internet service because it cuts into their SMS and phone markets. Cable companies don't like IPTV and skype because it cuts into their phone and cable television markets and they use their communications monopolies to cripple superior and more efficient technologies. This is kind of like how the auto manufacturers bought up and dismantled public transportation companies to make people buy cars.
It would be nice if we could split up these companies so that they would have to compete for our service, but I don't see how we could do that without hurting coverage or making improvements next to impossible. - kerouac906, on 04/04/2009, -0/+2If Skype is smart they will pursue collusion charges if this is a widespread concerted effort to block them. If users are smart they will tell their carriers to stop that ***** and find ones that allow full access when you are paying for a data plan.
- FredEvil, on 04/03/2009, -0/+2Something tells me you've allowed yourself to be chained to an iPrison as well...I don't think it's drex who is crying....
- stuffradio, on 04/03/2009, -0/+2Skype has one in Europe...
- prefekt, on 04/03/2009, -1/+3i had no idea - thanks!
- moberry, on 04/03/2009, -1/+3No different than Time Warner spending millions to bury fiber optic cable and using and up and coming online TV service.
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