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- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -5/+34you wouldn't say that if you had just won over $12,000
- cyrix, on 10/12/2007, -4/+27I don't see why people are being so negative about this. Let's say your a gamer, yet you love macs, this allows you to have the best of both worlds. Until of course more games are ported over, because right now the selection is slim pickin's.
- TheReport, on 10/12/2007, -3/+22"So, basically, you are a sucker for brand names. Cult indeed."
"-4 diggs eh? Mac fanboys are so idiotic."
Its not just fanboys who are burying your comments, its for giving a poor argument and lacing it with a personal jabs to the nuts. I've noticed that if you go around digg calling people "idiotic" or telling them they are "idiotic" because they are part of a "cult" then im sorry to say common sense dictates that you are going to be buried. There are many valid arguments on here that agree with your sentiment that arent buried....Hmmm maybe you should reevaluate why you are getting buried instead of blaming "fanboys" - kkapoor, on 10/12/2007, -3/+21Why do people keep on asking this retarded question!! Some people require XP for work. Some people want XP for games. Chooseing to have greater choice by putting XP on a Mac doesn't ruin the Mac, it only makes it more versatile.
- Brett, on 10/12/2007, -12/+29"As if the Intel chips used by Mac are superior to the ones you can buy for any PC"
No, just the operating system. - jk_baller23, on 10/12/2007, -11/+22Actually, I think this is better for Apple if people can successfully run Windows XP on a Mac. I'd rather have the ability to run WinXP on a Mac than OSX on a PC.
- biff198, on 10/12/2007, -12/+23Games. If you get a nice, upgraded Mac tower, and run XP on it, then hey, no need to buy the entire computer. That works for me!
That is kinda of a wierd image though... seeing XP on a mac.
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http://www.crusaderflash.com/ - pintong, on 10/12/2007, -3/+13http://www.flickr.com/photos/32436196@N00
Link to the Flickr album. - geminitojanus, on 10/12/2007, -2/+11I'll wait for the confirmation post. I'm still waiting for the "Gotcha! We hacked QEmu to provide BIOS and VGA BIOS emulation for Windows XP to boot", which, by way of the challenge isn't native booting. And I suggested that as being the way it was likely to happen a while back on Digg, when the first article was posted.
What's that mean? It means that Windows XP might boot, but it's HAL will still be a disaster, with nothing being supported. And all in all, it's still being emulated and not running natively.
(This coming from the website this guy or some other guy set up as a way of selling their solution of doing this). - thecapitalizt, on 10/12/2007, -4/+12This guy has been in constant communication with the runner of the windows.onmac.net contest, and he can confirm that this is no fraud.
- flinx, on 10/12/2007, -5/+13I'll tell you why...
I'm the primary technology decision maker for a small financial institution of roughly 100 employees.
OSX would be perfect for our environment, except for a few key apps that require windows/IE.
If we could run Win32 in the interim, it gives me alot of momentum with vendors to get their act together and go to an open platform when I could swap to OSX. You generally don't swap out 100 workstations all at once...even when maintaining the same OS. A stable XP on Mac solution would provide an interim.
Of course, such a plan would require some sort of support...or at least a comfort level before going out on that limb. However, 'possible' is required before support or comfort level. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -10/+17Yeah, who needs the latest games and business applications?!?!
- pintong, on 10/12/2007, -4/+11This is huge because it allows people/companies who would like to switch to a Mac but are stuck because of one or two Windows-only programs to just get a Mac and load up Windows when they need to.
- worthawholebean, on 10/12/2007, -6/+12Umm... I think he's a Linux d00d.
- Brett, on 10/12/2007, -10/+16The point is not to run on the "Chevrolet" engine, but to have it there when you need it. Sort of like step 2 of a three step program towards transitioning to Macs.
- whistle, on 10/12/2007, -3/+9It is
http://windowsxp.onmac.net/The%20Contest.html - diggnationdevon, on 10/12/2007, -3/+8You guys need to stop trying to bury OSs all the time. I love the mac platform too, believe me. But for some people, they need to have Windows around. So the fact that it is possible to run Windows next to a great platform is great.
- thecapitalizt, on 10/12/2007, -7/+12For the vast majority of people who are doing this, it is for one thing only:
GAMING!
Seriously, I paid the extra cash for the additional VRAM, I know of few other ways that it will be fully utilized - smith, on 10/12/2007, -5/+10OS X on a PC > Windows on a Mac
none the less, good job on beating the challenge - bricej, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6I'm glad to see things will never change. A story about Macs and PCs and it ends up full of biased comments both ways. Maybe once OSX is on PC and XP is on a Mac then everyone will just love one another and bask in each others radiant happiness.
p.s. My daddy can beat up your daddy. - ldenman, on 10/12/2007, -3/+8maybe people who need windows to run applications built for special hardware(ie. doctors, chiropractors, etc.) but want the simplicity of a mac when they are not using it with their custom built hardware.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6It's proving there's an equal and opposite reaction for every action. First it was annoucned that we will be able to run good software (OS X) on reasonably-priced hardware (x86 architecture)... now this!
Nice to know certain things never change. - 7477696700, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7It may be better for Apple, but as a gamer that sold his 2-year old dual 867 for more than half it's original purchase price and shelled out only an additional $200 to buy a PC for LAN parties, I appreciate the value of having parts I can readily purchase for cheap, and upgrade when I need to.
WIth the Dual 867, even towards the end of its life before I sold it there were still no processor upgrades available for the MDD systems, the only upgrades for the older Quicksilver machines and they cost more than a new PC. Video cards were somewhat easier to deal with, although the lack of selection and Mac price premium for what's essentially the same damn card was just as bad.
Apple has me beat on cable management, but when I don't have a case window I think I can let that ONE advantage go by.
I'd rather pay a whopping $200 for OS X and install it natively on my AMD system - pbjorge12, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4"Why? The Mac side won't get viruses, won't crash as often, and will be better for everyday use because of tighter OS design."
I've never gotten a virus on XP, I use avast!, the OS hasn't crashed for...months, and I don't see why a "tighter" OS design makes it better for everyday use... - manfesto, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6@killerklown
Which Apple fanboys are you referring to, the ones screaming "why the hell would you want to run Windows on a Mac" or the ones screaming "I love OS X, but there is [insert application] that is Windows only!"
Quite frankly, I fail to see how your comment differs at all from Group #1's sentiment, and as for Group #2's sentiment, I can at least understand their point (though their needs would probably be better served by VPC or VMWare, except for gaming).
I dual-boot between Windows XP and Linux (Fedora Core 4) on my PC because I like having choice in what computing environment I use. It really is that simple for a lot of people - having a choice between what they want to run when they turn on their computer, free from the inherent bias brought on by OS politics. If you have a problem with that, then you obviously don't fall in this category, and you should just let this hack pass you by (and judging from a few of narf's comments, this wasn't exactly easy), but don't look down on everybody looking to benefit from it (and especially don't trivialize them by immediately calling them fanboys because they seek interoperability). - ThomasCJohnson, on 10/12/2007, -6/+10Wow, way to defy the odds set by the news earlier this week!
- ldenman, on 10/12/2007, -8/+12@all you negative people:
Seriously, stop being so ignorant.
It is really unbecoming. - Brett, on 10/12/2007, -10/+14Not really. You linked to some pictures with no description of what was really going on.
- N3wtR0ckn13, on 10/12/2007, -7/+11i'd love winxp on a mac or at least be able to run all my windows or pc apps on a mac supported platform. this could very well be the tip of the iceberg, needless to say if microsoft or apple see it or not.
- Odo08, on 10/12/2007, -4/+8I have to use Windows-only program that is a front-end for an ODBC database. Why can't someone write some type emulator, NOT Virtural PC, that will run inside OSX on the Intel Macs that will let me run that software. Obviously I'm not a programmer or software engineer....
I don't want to dual boot, I don't want to see anything resembling WinXP/Vista on my future Mac; I just want to run my legacy WinXP programs that will NEVER be available for Mac.
Vista looks like a dog. I want off the Windows treadmill for good. I loved my Mac in college and I want one again! - Majin_Raditz, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6Finally i'll be able to play the latest video games on a mac. Now all we need is for Apple to release a Tower. +Digg.
- HackWithRamzi, on 10/12/2007, -7/+10Good! I am very pleased. This was a small stumbling block for a few technical users (not your mainstream one). I'm switching as soon as I get the $$.
- ihybridora, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3thats what i would say if i had a mac, i want one, but don't have one.
- wolfzero, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Enough of the "Why would you want to..." crap. I'm all for any kind of achievement, and we should celebrate it, no matter how small it is. If someone can get DOS running on my XBOX natively, I'm all for it. If someone can make my Dell laptop shoot rockets out of the PC card slot, I'm all for it. So, anyone who can get any OS running on any difficult hardware (XP on a 486?) go for it!
- blurtheimage, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4I've been holding on before buying a macbook pro, but if and when this is confirmed....well, look out! Apple Store! Here I come!!
- YossarianDent, on 10/12/2007, -3/+6Mac OSX 10.4.3 straight from Apple - $129.99
Windows XP Pro OEM (let's face it; the only one anywhere near worth buying) on sale at Newegg - $146.95
Low-budget for whom?
...oh, and just so no one's disappointed...simultaneously earning the respect of your peers, the disdain of large corporations, and a chronic sleeping disorder - priceless - coffeegeek, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Whoever did this is going to hell.
- finkstar, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3There are a few sites that seem to think this isn't a done deal yet.
http://apple.slashdot.org/apple/06/03/14/1420252.shtml
http://www.engadget.com/2006/03/14/xp-on-mactel-game-over/
Honestly, I think it's a hoax, and it works because people want it. Remember Walken for President? - tangledcords, on 10/12/2007, -9/+11Point well taken. I just guess I'm thinking more long-term. I believe the real implementation of this should come with Intel's Robson technology and their Virtualization technology rather than dual-booting. I guess I'm just tired of the "most exciting" thing of Apple switching to Intel being able to possibly run Windows.
- althe3rduww, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2For all of those who can't seem to wrap your heads around why anyone would want to run win xp on a mac its this...
Most people that own a mac already, would still run os x 99% of the time. But their are those very few apps that aren't available in mac versions that people would like to run. Those apps would most likely be games.
For the people who don't have a mac, running win xp on a mac gives them the opportunity to run their favorite os on what they view as some of the most premium hardware out there.
It's really a win win for the consumer as they are given the choice. And it helps both apple and microsoft in the process. So for most of us here its still a little hard to understand why both companies don't want to actually work together to make this solution more viable for the average consumer.
I love my mac but I can still see why this would be beneficial. If you still can't understand why someone would want to run win xp on a mac I don't think there is much anyone can do to help clarify further. - worthawholebean, on 10/12/2007, -3/+5Grrrr. Digg, etc. effect on the onmac forums.
- ThankTheCheese, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3i see what you're saying. It might just be a halo effect from the brightness of the screen that makes it appear as though its over the object,
fact is the photos dont' really mean much, because all you would need to do was install and run WinXP through Virtual PC in full screen mode. I'd like to see VIDEO of him playing HD video full screen, or playing Doom 3, or using Maya or 3DS Max, that's the only way of verifying that it is running XP natively. - cpawl, on 10/12/2007, -5/+7The main reason I use a mac is to NOT have to run Windows.
- lemz, on 10/12/2007, -3/+5I second that. I personally don't like OSX, but do like the hardware.
- mikeazorin, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2If this is true and easy to do, I will guarantee you that Macs will get at least 10% market share.
- rjcarr, on 10/12/2007, -3/+4"better" is a very subjective word. I've used many dell and gateway and ibm laptops in the past and wouldn't trade my powerbook for all of them put together.
- suppazone, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1yeah I was wondering the same thing - He ran off with the money and the solution!!
nah don't think so. It will be back up soon? - fusebox, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Your argument is flawed, TheCheese is quite right. Bright objects can often be seen to overlap the edge of darker objects in photos, particularly ones of low quality. Check out the Crosshair Knockout section at http://www.iangoddard.net/moon01.htm (about 3/4 of the way down the page) for a nice demonstration of how this can occur...
- jessed, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Why seems to be the question everyone keeps asking. Well, why not? Why not try to get Windows running on an Apple? Hackers think of it as a challenge. Taking a proprietary OS and trying to get it running on proprietary hardware. In the end it's all in good fun. I would never see any use for this in any kind of professional setting though. With no support coming from Microsoft if something doesn't work, it seems like it would be hell if something goes wrong.
Just a side note, articles like this seem to draw in fanboys from both the Windows and Mac side. To all the fanboys here: just stop. Stop trying to debunk each other's personal preference of operating system. This is just a hack for hacks sake, no more, no less. - MLBudToo, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Glad to see it! This could be a great breakthrough for Mac and PC users alike. Dual booting here we come?
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