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- alxdman, on 10/12/2007, -0/+17http://wiki.onmac.net/index.php/Drivers
This is what they got so far for drivers - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+18Kind of out of character for them. ;-)
- t2048, on 10/12/2007, -3/+18WHY do people keep asking WHY people want to run XP on the macbook?
BECAUSE HAVING BOTH OPERATING SYSTEMS ON ONE MACHINE MEANS THEY CAN RUN ALL OF THE WINDOWS-ONLY AND OSX-ONLY SOFTWARE ON THE SAME MACHINE.
QUIT ASKING WHY. - Rice, on 10/12/2007, -0/+11Well, give me drivers!
- mrASSMAN, on 10/12/2007, -1/+12it's incredible how simple the hackers made it for us!
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -3/+12Real computer users use each of the popular operating systems because each has their benefits, unlike OS fanboys that descriminate other OSes because they think theirs is superior.
- FunkyChicken, on 10/12/2007, -2/+10It's NOT the amount of diggs that drives a story to the Front Page. Apparently it's the rate at which a story is dugg combined with a whole bunch of other himminyhobbideegoo wrapped up with a sample of some other mysterious indicators into an algorithm that probably won't ever get explained.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+10Yes? And? You expected drivers to be immediate in coming?
- drakino, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7Drivers talk to the hardware, and the ATI cards inside the iMac/MacBook Pro have EFI/UGA and Mac specific firmware, while any existing drivers out there expect to talk to an ATI card with a BIOS/VGA and PC firmware. People have forced the drivers to load much like they did on the Mini, and it just simply doesn't work. There is enough differences in the firmware that have to be addressed some other way.
- vaxguru, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6Brilliant work, absolutely brilliant. Kudos to the people who managed to pull this off and make it so simple for everyone. Almost brought a tear to my eye, *sniff*
Gotta get myself an Intel Mac ASAP =P - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7Thanks for this. But you should post this in the forum at "http://onmac.net", for the tutorials.
- Rggoalie3, on 10/12/2007, -4/+8@Fazz: I guess that depends on your definition of "hacker". Hackers made Linux, not everyone is out to break things.
- Cosmosis, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Since this fellows website is a little sluggish (or perhaps will undergo the digg effect)...
1000Mbps Level3/GBLX/Mzima Mirror here:
http://mirror.root.vc/nirlog.com/2006/03/18/winxp-and-osx-dual-boot-in-macbook-pro/
Want something mirrored? administrator[at]leetsauce.com - jk_baller23, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5yay for WinXP on Macs natively. I'm a bit interested, but not completely interested until more drivers are patched. But, since it is so soon, I'm sure in time drivers will be patched and hopefully be completely native soon.
Yes, WinXP for gaming, OS X for everything else. But, limited gfx drivers are holding us back. - wilsonics, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4I personally can't wait to get my dirty little hands on a MacBook pro.....mmmmmm. I still need windows because i'm a cisco tech, and need the windows apps because cisco refuses to write any of their support apps for osx, hell they barely support anything other than IE...suckage. When i come home, i just want my computer to *just ***** work.* Anyone with me on that one?
- archer75, on 10/12/2007, -6/+10I think the ONLY reason to put Windows XP on a Mac is for gaming. However without driver support at this point the entire thing is useless.
- corsairstw, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Thanks for posting the link to the different drivers! This is especially helpful. The main important ones are working now: Sound, Ethernet, and Wireless. Access them here: http://wiki.onmac.net/index.php/Drivers
- Jangles, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5I suppose for gaming or a few programs here or there it is nice. But I would feel a little dirty running windows on my new mac :p
- themulf, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Im going to repeat t2048's post, on why. YES there are people in this world whom do more than play games and change the desktop image of their computer. Programmers, artist, video production, engineers, various people whom this would help immensely.
- jay42, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3But only one of the two is legal.
- archer75, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5Well you have ATI graphics in the imac. So with drivers it would work for todays gaming.
I don't understand why ATI drivers would'nt work. Isn't the key here just to be able to emulate a bios to get windows to load? I don't know why that would take special drivers. But apparently it does. - Shaft0rz, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4i don't think it's just gaming for everyone. i work on a .NET app, but would love a mac. i don't need fancy video drivers to run visual studio. that's just one example, i'm sure there are a lot more...
- AlphaPrime, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3As long as I can play windows games on it and switch between them, I'm looking forward to it.
- Wubbie, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Gaming with Windows would be very fun...
And Mac with everything else, of course...
But, what if your windows machine contracts a virus... Headaches all over again >. - DCstewieG, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3@craterburnsu
Sorry, that's way off. GPUs require a huge amount of memory bandwidth, and when it's an onboard chip it has to share with the rest of the system. In addition to bandwidth, it also uses main memory which 1) decreases the amount of memory available for the OS/app/game and 2) creates higher latency. You could have a blindingly fast onboard chip but it just wouldn't matter. - giveaphuk, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3anyone got battlefield 2 2 run smoothly on a macbook via xp ? only reason i would consider installing xp when i can do everything in X .
- alxdman, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Saves me money by buying 1 machine instead of buying 2(Mac for all the goods, PC for the games.)
- jclay06, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I work at CompUSA and got in trouble from the Apple Rep. that we have by mentioning this to a customer that wanted VirtualPC for his Macbook Pro. It was really funny ... then I talked to another business rep. and he said that it is in fact legal, but (of course) Apple hates it.
lol - PorkCharSui, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2It's in development:
http://darwine.opendarwin.org/ - digitalbuzz, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2As a field tech, I have to lug around one of those ubiquitous Dell D600s since the software I support mainly is on Dell Servers. But I'm also a Mac Admin and a Graphic Designer by edjimacation. There are times I need to work on a Mac but can't and there's no way I'm going to bring two laptops on the road with me. This dual-boot would be ideal for my line of work.
and the games would be a nice bennie. - iobuffa, on 10/12/2007, -3/+5ho ho ho! Score 1 for donwilson. He torched you guys. TORCHED!
- foxhoundadmin, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3agreed. unless mac os x and windows xp are dual booting AT ONCE (running parallel--one on one core, one on the other) without emulation, then it's not news to me.
tell me when they break the 20" imac. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Why is Vista more important than XP?
Vista is still in beta, and some of the drivers are broke. The point where Vista is better than XP, is the extended GUI system. - chaos86, on 10/12/2007, -6/+8actually its the diggs per minute in comparison to other stories, not the total diggs (or the top stories of all time would remain on the front page)
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4Thats fine if you want to only be able to run a tiny proportion of the available software. For those of us who want or need to run the vast majority of software (which is of course non-mac) putting XP on a mac is the best thing to do unless you want to have multiple PCs.
- j_bellone, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Thank you! Someone with a brain ^^ and knows how it really is.
- j_bellone, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1So what you're trying to say are that those some people wouldn't be on the phone with Apple? You're wrong. Apple rushes their hardware (you see how many iPods they release in a single year) and have horrible QA and Support. The iPod hardware is horrible, and mine has personally been in the shop 3 times already in the year that I've had it.
- sparkmonkeyz, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1OMG!! You put it on so you can have all of the awsomeness of a mac for what you'd mostly use it for, but if you want to do something that you cant on a mac, like play BF2, you know you dont have to switch computers. Especially nice when you are on the go and dont want to lug around two laptops.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Its a difference between wanting to do something for the hell of it, and needing to do it out of neccessity.
There isn't a lot of software you can't get for the PC so the effort isn't that big, strong, or neccessary.
You can't say the same about mac, especially when you come to entertainment software. - subhuman, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1"agreed. unless mac os x and windows xp are dual booting AT ONCE (running parallel--one on one core, one on the other) without emulation, then it's not news to me.
tell me when they break the 20" imac."
Dual core running two systems? thats never been possible ever, not even win/linux on x86, so why would it ever be possible soon?
And this patch does work for the imacs (according the source). - unitedstatians, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1The people want this Microsoft and Apple don't grind against your prospects they have the power to proliferate your existence.
i give mad props to the folks that are taking up this challenge, they are changing the way we will compute tomorrow. - ster, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1so many installation links but no benchmarks?
i can't wait to try it out for myself, actually. - sparkmonkeyz, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1You know that macs still have a right click right, and im not talkin bout ctrl click, the mighty mouse (which sux) has a right click.
- ayeaye, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Sadly, most major businesses out there uses Windows
Sadly, thats not going to change no matter how much you want it to change
So, live with it. Window's is always going to be around. People will install windows on Macs because it's the smart thing to do. Why use 2 machines when you can use one? I use both Windows and Mac. I would rather use Windows, but I have to deal with macs because I am an Apple Technician. - sinembarg0, on 10/12/2007, -5/+6He isn't trying to look versed. He's trying either to teach jasonbyron something, or to make fun of him for being a total moron. There's a reason we are required to take so much English in school. If you don't know English very well and its your primary language, how smart do you think that makes you look??
- pabster, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1The irony of the situation :D
For years Windows fanboys dreamed of installing that elusive OS X on their rigs.
Now they can.
For years Mac fanboys dreamed of installing Windows (natively) on their Macs. Now they can too!
I'm the former, in case you are wondering. - xenon221, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I've been hearing that it's not. Supposedly, xp doesn't take the new CPU to the lowest depths of power management yet.
- Jams, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1This has actually fully convinced me to buy a mac. I've liked macs for ages, but could never do without my Windows box. Rather than run the two in parallel I can now buy a nice shiny iMac.
- Jams, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Drakino beat me to the explanation by 10 hours :P
- originalcrush, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2any thoughts if whine noise will still be present when running Windows XP?
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