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- xpose, on 10/15/2008, -16/+158Because Mac users are hardcore gamers and they need SLI. . of course!
- smartcause, on 10/15/2008, -21/+139Because 2 is better than 1. That's why I always make 2 pan's worth of bacon instead of just 1.
- CoreyTamas, on 10/15/2008, -7/+103When you refer to Steve Jobs as "God", it makes it hard for us other Mac users to convince the general Digg population that we're not crazy.
- tomis, on 10/15/2008, -13/+93Because of Snow Leopard and OpenCL. That's why. It's a hardware feature that the current OS doesn't even utilize.
- inactive, on 10/15/2008, -8/+74You're all wrong. It has two graphics cards to allow for the upcoming Snow Leopard's "Grand Central", which is a really cool way of threading applications between not only main processor cores, but graphics cores as well. See here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Central_(techno ... - DiggzDE, on 10/15/2008, -5/+46And now that is why you are twice as obese.
- CalcProgrammer1, on 10/15/2008, -3/+29What about mouse buttons?!
- linespin, on 10/15/2008, -7/+30To play Crysis.. oh wait... it can ? no!... NOOO! /0 Error
- Galaxylander, on 10/15/2008, -0/+22Being obese is okay as long as it's at the hands of bacon.
- MacParrot, on 10/15/2008, -5/+25What are you smokin? Can you link to this laptop for $600 that's the same specs as a MBP?
- Recidivus, on 10/15/2008, -2/+20Wasted plenty of time replying. I would also love to see this $600 laptop with the same specs. Heck, doesn't have to be the same specs, just find one with 2 graphics cards at $600. Can you even get one with a single half decent dedicated graphics card for 600?
I'm no apple fan by any means, but at least be a little realistic when spouting numbers. - Altotus, on 10/15/2008, -1/+19That's probably correct, actually.
- MrFurious2k, on 10/15/2008, -2/+19Yup... this will be great for gaming on the Mac. You know, for all the games that are available for it. Like... um... LOOK OVER THERE! A STEVE JOBS IS GIVING AWAY IPHONES!
*runs away* - KMartSheriff, on 10/15/2008, -0/+17Dumb comment from Digg.
- waspbr, on 10/15/2008, -12/+28So, let me get this straight, you can either use one or the other but not both at the same time, but still they advertise it as dual GPU as if they had SLi ?
sorry but that seems rather patchy - wedges, on 10/15/2008, -6/+21awesome. 2 graphics cards and one of them doesn't do *****.
- dn11, on 10/15/2008, -2/+15but it doesn't work in SLI, it's either or, and you have to log off to switch
- saikyan, on 10/15/2008, -1/+13You fail.
Boot Camp is just an assistant that helps you install Windows. Once it's installed and running, it is entirely native and independent of OS X, exactly as it would be on any other machine.
You are thinking of programs like VMWare Fusion that allow you to run OS X and Windows simultaneously. - TeabagginKRose, on 10/15/2008, -1/+13So does Apple's Grand Central also interface with Google's Grand Central and call your phone to let you know that your video cards are kicking so much ass together?
- scruffles, on 10/16/2008, -1/+12"but still they advertise it as dual GPU as if they had SLi"
No, actually they don't.
http://www.apple.com/macbookpro/graphics.html - Raptor007, on 10/15/2008, -2/+13@smokinAZ
Wish I could bury your comment as inaccurate. - bbatsell, on 10/15/2008, -0/+10Nope, it's completely manual, at least in the current version of Leopard. You have to change which card you're using, and each change requires a logout and login. I expect that to change at the very latest in Snow Leopard if not earlier, but right now, it's not the case.
- Aleman360, on 10/15/2008, -0/+10They're doing it wrong. They should have a very low power Intel integrated chip + the 9600 GT so you can switch between the two on the fly (without logging out/restarting) depending on whether you want more battery life or more performance. Lenovo and Sony do this the right way.
- emt1451, on 10/16/2008, -0/+10If you install XP using BootCamp... the games will be running natively.
- grizzlybrice, on 10/15/2008, -3/+11I got a single word (and a number for you)... "Starcraft 2"
- coldkill3r, on 10/15/2008, -2/+10No.
- ReyX, on 10/16/2008, -0/+7"Pans."
That is all. - Vst_kills, on 10/15/2008, -3/+10No one said anything about innovation, just improvements, not that the lack of a FireWire port is an improvement though
- DanielAzarc, on 10/15/2008, -0/+7http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a53/SquareCat/111 ...
- inactive, on 10/15/2008, -1/+8we require more vespene gas
- MacParrot, on 10/15/2008, -2/+8If you like Alienware, why do you even care if you're dugg down?
- colincornaby, on 10/15/2008, -0/+6The Intel Integrated Chips don't support OpenCL, as far as I know.
- KyleMistry, on 10/15/2008, -0/+6But still only 1 cup.
- BossKey, on 10/15/2008, -0/+6You're not taking into account CS4's new use of GPUs, including on laptops. CS3 already flies on my dual-core 4GB MacBook Pro.
- sturmgiest, on 10/15/2008, -2/+8run crysis warhead or oblivion or arma and then tell me it has zero problems
- thedez, on 10/15/2008, -5/+10Why have one when you can have two at twice the price?
- feliks2, on 10/15/2008, -1/+6PC = personal computer. This includes computers running Windows, Apple, Linux and other opperating systems, so stfu with this "PC laptops" *****.
- digitalpencil, on 10/16/2008, -0/+5ok firstly, apple didn't establish the ultra-portable market and the mba has largely been a success.
secondly, modern operating systems like snow leopard using OpenCL can tap into the vast gigaflops of gpu power for computational processes. Having multiple GPUs in laptops will allow for much more powerful mobile solutions once operating systems are capable of tapping into this largely unused resource.
Think about CPUs, more cores = better. the same is true of GPUs.
thirdly, just because you buy a mac, does not mean you have to buy all your software and peripherals from an apple store and the vast majority of peripherals are not windows/mac only, they are cross-platform and work with all hardware configs generally with native driver support. Where drivers are not available, open-drivers tend to fill the gaps.
finally, your computer does not define you any more than your choice of shoes.. the one thing that bewilders me about you people is your incessant will to shoot down others for their particular choice.
The actual 'long story short' is that people have different tastes and their work requires different tools. Many animators use windows-based PCs because software like max and maya only runs on windows-based PCs, many video and audio editors use macs because software like logic and fcp only runs on macs.
Reducing an entire user-base to retards with fisherprice PCs is flat inaccurate and highly condescending but i won't take offense given that, for a computer scientist, you clearly don't have much of a clue what you're talking about..
The new Macbook Pro is an expensive machine and if you're actually going for raw power than something like a quad-core Dell M6400 would probably be a better bet however, with matched specs to the MBP, it sits almost $800 more.. The MBP is a good, portable graphics solution with a good quality panel.. my only quibble is the 8gb max and the glossy display as gloss straight-***** with my spyder. other than that, it's actually reasonable value for money and with SL around the corner, will function as a very streamlined and powerful desktop replacement that remains portable.
oh, and most people using laptops for film work use multiple displays. it's just handy to have a machine you can use in the field as well as your desk. - foltaggio, on 10/15/2008, -0/+5for the good of all of us
- waspbr, on 10/15/2008, -0/+5better one one your hand than two in the bra
- CoreyTamas, on 10/15/2008, -0/+5smokinAZ: The "I'm not gonna waste my time" thing didn't seem to come into play when you were writing your post about the $600 MBP-killer... so, indulge us... show us a link. I'm gonna need a new laptop soon and you might just sway me.
- depro9, on 10/15/2008, -1/+6We do what we must because we can.
- mitchlourens, on 10/16/2008, -0/+5I bought two go-karts
- CalcProgrammer1, on 10/15/2008, -0/+4PC doesn't even have to mean x86, a personal computer is just a computer for personal use. This technically includes PowerPC, x86, ARM, mobile devices, the iPhone, Windows Mobile, and any other computer for personal use (even video game systems could be considered PC's). People for some reason equate PC with IBM/x86 and now even non-Apple x86. Macs are PC's, Windows powered computers are PC's, and the term PC isn't descriptive of what kind of computer it is.
Anyways, any x86 computer can run OSX just as it can run Windows. - wpc33, on 10/16/2008, -0/+4The only thing I can add, is that Max & Maya run on Macs. You can run Windows and OS X on any Mac made in the last two years.
- Raptor007, on 10/15/2008, -0/+4Except the ones who are dead.
- pentiumii, on 10/16/2008, -0/+4no u cant get a computer with better spec for 600 buck but u can do for around 900
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N8 ...
there u go its close it not 13 inch but 14 and suport hybrid tech using ati - norman619, on 10/15/2008, -0/+4feliks2:
Thank you for that. It looks like most fanboys on here have forgotten that Apple computers are PC's as well. - CoreyTamas, on 10/15/2008, -0/+4That's why no portable maker markets their machines as "laptops" anymore.
- tanman4sg, on 10/15/2008, -2/+6The description seems to be wrong.
The MacBook Pro did not have an integrated graphics card. It had a separate 8600GT.
I'm glad to see an energy saving system here... These laptops run just below their melting point. Not all that nice when they're actually on your lap or anything. -
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