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Is anybody expecting it to dominate? After all this will never be a $99 Razr or the free Nokia 60something or 30something

Carriers are not allowed to subsidize the price. You pay a premium for this product. It is not meant for everyone.

Why does the entire planet feel it necessary to keep commenting on a product they've never touched, used, or even seen in person? Wait until it comes out to make a judgment.

How about this, lets stop talking about the iPhone until its out and selling? Having to read the hundreds of pieces as to why the iPhone will/won't be successful is getting boring.

We've heard this like, 50 times now.

Shut up.

I kinda want it.. seems like a nice toy. Just waiting for Santa to return my call. However, when will cellphones ever go back to *just* being cellphones without all the hooplah?

all i need my cellphone to do is make and take calls.

Being stuck with one carrier for what looks to be 5 years, will hurt it the most. In some areas that service sucks with Cingular/at&t...the phone has already lost.

For us the iPhone will be great... as long as you don't need to connect to anything. I love what I see in the iPhone ,but Cingular/at&t is the worst service provider in my area... from what I hear the rest of the state (FL) is not much better. I'm sure other areas they are better or best. But to eliminate potential customers right off the bat with an exclusive carrier for 2-5 years.... thats just stupid.

I want to see the iPhone do well however,

I said it before and I'll say it again....

If it doesnt communicate well with a PC as far as using outlook, word, excel, or any other Microsoft suite, it just wont do as well as a true smart phone.

Cell phones are a tool of the devil. I hate the damn things.

It's too early to tell, show let actually see what happens.....

What I don't get is the attitude that it either has to dominate over the whole cell phone industry or is a failure. Macs make up between 3-6% of the market (depending on whose numbers you believe) and Apple has been profitible for most of the years it has been available. Doesn't dominate, but earns a profit and obviously has a very loyal core group of owners that ensures its survival.

All Apple needs for the iPhone to be successful is that 1-3%. Everything else is sauce for the goose.

BTW, I will NOT be buying an iPhone. I don't need its phone features and it is weak in the storage department for an iPod. Put a 30+ gb drive in it, take out the phone features and I'm there.

Sick of iPhone, Scientology, and Marijuana posts. Please STOP!

iPod's used to be really expensive. Everyone said it wouldn't sell well. It sold well... prices came down. Now millions have them. Who's to say the same thing won't happen with the iPhone?

You say this now... wait to be proved wrong. The iPod is expected to be on backorder until Christmas.

Yay - another article explaining why iPhone will fail before the product is launched.

Tell me something new.

I don't understand why people want to prove each other wrong. No one will know whether or not it will do well until it actually comes out. So when that happens, then everyone can start arguing like 5 year olds as to whether or not it's successful. But then again, even if it sold 100 million units the first month, you'll still get retards on here saying how it isn't doing well and it is still doomed to fail. It's an argument no one will ever win.

@ whoever made a comment about having Office compatibility to be a true smart phone. I agree. (Even though I'm probably going to buy one)....but I think I read somewhere that all 3rd party apps will be allowed and that there was a way to put Office on it now. I may be wrong, and it's not like you can trust everything you read on the web anyways.

I think I'm going to head down to the Cingular store when they come out, play with one for a bit, and then decide. You never know, something looks really nice sometimes until you get your hands on it. Then it may be a different story.

I think some people have way too much time on their hands... pulling predictions out of their hats about products that have not yet hit the market. Enough speculation. Need we remind everyone how unsuccessful the iPod was predicted to be when it was first released? That alone would shut me up about unreleased products.

personally, i feel the iPhone is overrated. i love my iPod, but why do people feel the need to combine all their tools into one thing? if my cell phone and my iPod are pretty much on my person at all times, how much harder is it to reach for two things instead of one? it's no wonder they're only aiming for 1% of the global market. check out this list of gadgets that are a lot more fun: http://www.listafterlist.com/tabid/57/listid/7062/Gadgets++Tech/Technology+Gadgets+You+Need+To+Own.aspx

The iPhone will Dominate (yes, with a capital 'D') the phone market. How could anyone think otherwise? Every teenager/20-something will HAVE to get one. And don't give me that ***** that people can't afford it either...work a weekend on the fryalator at McDonalds and you have enough cash for one.

Man, it is *so* fun to be an Apple fanboy these days! I've stopped bothering to argue with guys like these. Sure. Allright. The iPhone is going to be a flop. Your opinion is duly noted. We'll take this issue up again in six months to a year and let's see where we stand? Sound good? Super.

Stop comparing the iPhone to the iPod. Apple's expectation for the iPhone is a 1% marketshare by the end of 2007. It's not as if they ever thought of the 77% the iPod is taking today... This number was in the same freakin' presentation which they now criticize so much. Apple isn't expecting market-domination, so don't pretent they are!

My concern for the iPhone comes from having used a UTC Starcom 6700 for 18 months. Fully touch screen driven devices are cool at first, but then the novelty wears off to the realization that for some tasks, you want a tactile response. The one that sticks out to me the most is dialing a number. On the 6700 you have to look at the phone to dial since you can't just simply feel the keys, this is horrible (and unsafe) when driving. I recently switched to a Treo 700wx and love the return of good non-touch screen based controls.

This is what analysts said when the iPod came out.

with the amount of hype the've had and all its cool features it'll be a success perhaps not iin the first year but the next 3 years and when they come out with mini and nano iphones.

Phones are by far a bigger fashion statement than an iPod could be.

The only problem with phones is not seem to have every feature one would like, so when one aspect of a phone niggles peopel switch phones.

I counter-predict that it will be a huge fashion statement, everyone will want one, it'll be bigger than the razr.

I'm getting a razr2 tho because of Linux.

here's my next iPod http://seeqpod.com

Could we get any more obvious? You can't compare apples and oranges, this article was a waste of our time, and the fact I'm typing right now shows you how bored I am :).

its a an important question whether the Iphone will do well. Especially if your buying or selling AAPL stock. The smart money might be on looking for it fall a little if expectations are lowered.

I have to say however Jobs was/is pretty excited about the Iphone and he does have a great record with innovative products.This could be a defining moment for Jobs and Apple. Time will tell. Exciting to watch.

I don't think that the iPhone was ever intended to replace the iPod; so the point is moot.

Apple never had the intention to dominate the cellular phone maret, at least not right now. They just want to get into the market and get that 1% marketshare. Thats it. I don't know why they are coming that to ipod for no aparent reason. Plus, to inorder to dominate one market, it's product must be affordable by norm, which in Apple's iphone, isn't and was never intented to. This article should be buried.

I'm waiting to see what kind of games come on it. If they don't have cool games like tiger woods I will not buy.

But of course iPhone will not dominate or impact the cell-phone market the way iPod influenced its own one. Why? Because cell-phone market is a lot more advanced than the one iPod was released to. The article is pointless.

are people oblivious to the fact that the underfeatured, underpowered, undereverything Treo 700p and 700w are $620? That the Motorola Razr, not even a smartphone...not even a GOOD phone technologically anymore retails for $220? That the Motorola Q, a phone plagued by flaky software costs $420?

The reason they're cheaper from carriers is that carriers subsidize them...if you want to buy a good Nokia phone with great features like the N95, expect to pay over $700.

The iPhone at 499 is going to be a steal if it delivers the promised features.

"The iPod set an impossibly high bar, one that the iPhone will not match or even come close to."

How amusing.

No more iPhone articles. Put the *$&#^ thing on sale and let the numbers speak for themselves. Wait for version 2. Lather, rinse repeat.

(In related news, Saabira Chaudhuri predicts Senator Clinton will nominate Harold Stassen to an honorary Cabinet post in her administration.)

I think the IPhone will be the next IFlop

Comparing iphone to ipod a reasonable but not very accurate way to talk about it. Sure, Apple is entering a new market and looks ambitious. And I bet they understand that mobile market in 2007 is totaally different from mp3 players market back in 2000. However, some things are still valid, like a sleek UI and powerful features. I expect Apple to upgrade its iphone (probably a 3G model) even sometime next year. They won't lower the price (but probably they'll accept subsidies), they'll just add more features or increase storage capacity. iPhone is here to stay...

Because its a phone, period.

I always assumed it wouldn't be the next iPod because it's a cell phone... Just because I can grow facial hair and style it in a comical fashion doesn't mean to say that I'm the next Hitler.

So here's my question, is it even legal that Apple/AT&T have made this exclusive to their network. Didn't the FCC or some agency regulate the cellphone industry indicating that phones/phone numbers needed to be portable/programmable to be able to be transfered between networks? I thought i remembered something like that.

answer: because i have more then 8GB of music....

getting gentital herpes is cooler than getting an ipod. having an iphone will be like paying for getting the herpes

Wow. If this iPhone does wind up dominating, what a complete ***** moron this guy is going to feel like. People, the ***** phone isn't even out yet!

Why iPhone is not the next iPod because just about every device can already do what what it touts,

http://www.davespda.com/resources/compare/index.htm

iPhone is just another PDA/Phone device and nothing to get all wowed up over.