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- rawg, on 06/09/2008, -1/+74Add downloadable maps (topo maps for hiking trails), a tracking history and waypoints to the list for hikers.
Automatic geotagging for photos, calls and emails/blog posts would be nice.
Being able to ping your location to another iPhone user would be cool and useful when converging on a location with friends or calling in air support. - bolted, on 06/10/2008, -0/+43I hiked Mt Rainier two days ago in Washington and used a Garmin hand held GPS unit. The unit is rugged, can handle snow, rain, sleet, has fat buttons that I can press through my gore-tex gloves. GPS units are a far larger market than just a piece of electronics that sites on the dash and says "take left on I-95 S in 100 meters".
- MaGCoL, on 06/10/2008, -1/+34Is this what you meant?
http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/09/tomtom-already- ...
It looks sweet! - lylepratt, on 06/09/2008, -1/+32"calling in air support" won my digg
- Ichibanit, on 06/10/2008, -2/+18Ahh please, Apple is a very small player in this market. This year alone there will be made about 1 billion phones, with Nokia making about half (438 Mill). Apple will produce about 6 million. As wonderful as the iPhone is( Except the camera. 2 Mb! what were they thinking? That was the standard 3 years ago)
To kill other GPS companies you need market share, and Apple simply do not have that. - WiseWeasel, on 06/09/2008, -3/+16I wouldn't be surprised if those hardware manufacturers start selling GPS software for the iPhone (the iPhone lacks any native GPS navigation software by default), which potentially has much higher margins. Apple did these guys a favor, if they can react quickly enough to claim a big chunk of this new market...
- WomensUnderwear, on 06/10/2008, -0/+12i live an extreme life and skirt with danger on a daily basis. i am plenty pissed that jobs dropped the ball on this and didn't include a digital thermometer (with anal probe) a CPR shock station, oxygen mask and device to email the consistency of my stool samples direct to my doctor. also it needs a flare gun and a carabina, and should be edible in case of dire emergency
- r3zonance, on 06/10/2008, -1/+12Hasn't TomTom already annouced that they are working on a version of their software for the iPhone?
- smackkmonkey, on 06/10/2008, -3/+13iPhone GPS seems cool but it won't beat a standalone GPS unit. There are just too many features for Apple to focus on. What a load of crap that GPS companies are scared *****
- SWGreg, on 06/10/2008, -0/+9They already have done. High end Nokia phones have had GPS built in for a while now...
- inactive, on 06/10/2008, -2/+11A durable, waterproof, shock resistant GPS unit will never go out of style. Sorry iPhone, KTHXBAI.
- AceTracer, on 06/10/2008, -2/+11http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/09/tomtom-already- ...
- waydee, on 06/10/2008, -0/+6Do Apple fanboys ignore whats going on around them? GPS is a common feature in the current generation of phones.
- ChzPlz, on 06/10/2008, -1/+7It was announced as part of the keynote that pricing will be no more than US$199 worldwide.
Yes, the mobile networks will be subsidizing this, so there will be a contract required at that price. - kashk5, on 06/10/2008, -0/+6Look outside your window
- mtwolf, on 06/10/2008, -0/+5Yes
- dunos, on 06/10/2008, -0/+5I doubt TomTom are scared at all. They are in the process of buying Tele Atlas. Their interface is second to none in the car market. They already have a working prototype of their software on the iPhone. And to top it off they have a history of running their software on third party hardware (which never really worked very well thanks to the inadequacies of Windows Mobile. What we will need is a very good mount for the iphone on the windscreen. That is about it really.
- Ichibanit, on 06/10/2008, -0/+5HTC make about 50% of all the phones with Windows Mobile, so that is about 15-20 million this year depending on who’s numbers you use. All new smart phones from HTC have GPS and TomTom is the software provider. And as SWGreg already said the N95 already have these features.
- Akram, on 06/10/2008, -1/+6I don't think Apple is after "killing" Tom Tom and Garmin. I don't see why someone is going to use an iPhone over their built in Mercedes/Lexus/BMW etc etc Sat Nav. And who the hell carries around a Tom Tom Go in your hand in the street. Its 2 different devices. In the street etc, iPhone would be amazing, but in the vehicle, i'll take Tom Tom any day.
- Fratz, on 06/10/2008, -0/+4I've been looking forward to the nuviphone, but Mio is releasing GPS phones, too, and with TomTom providing software on the iPhone, that's a third next-generation GPS platform option. The problem is that I find TomTom's interface horrible, and I find the Garmin's GUI far more usable and intuitive. In any case, I think I'll be avoiding a GPS phone purchase until all of them are on the market and competing with each other.
- ripple123, on 06/10/2008, -0/+4The only thing missing from the iphone is "Dont Panic" written across the front
- christhechris, on 06/10/2008, -0/+4iPhone...ATTACK breakaway
- christhechris, on 06/10/2008, -1/+5no you don't...
- dstz, on 06/10/2008, -1/+5I'm hesitating between "ok this is lame" and "inaccurate"; it's 50/50.
- christhechris, on 06/10/2008, -3/+6the 16GB iphone 3G should be around 200€....ie cheaper then Tom Tom with more functionality...
pay attention or go to sleep - ChzPlz, on 06/10/2008, -0/+3My experience with GPS has been limited to rental cars, and a borrowed Nuvi, so I'm far from an expert, but I was wondering if any of the consumer-grade commercial GPS' have used a voice recognition UI?
You've got everything you need on the iPhone (or other smartphones), with a network connection, my address book, a good sized screen, a speaker and a microphone... - BrendanSheehan, on 06/10/2008, -0/+3Apple sold 6 million being in 6 countries legitimately. Be July 11th they'll be in 22, and by the end of the year they'll be 70. 6 million might prove conservative.
- diggelicious71, on 06/10/2008, -1/+4Sorry, but this won't kill all other GPS companies.
- MacParrot, on 06/10/2008, -0/+3It isn't just about Apple though. Other phones either already have this or will soon and convergence for hand held devices is happening. If I don't have to carry a separate media player, a GPS, a phone, and a device capable of going online that's a good thing. Durability has something going for it, but with the right kind of case, multi-functional phones can be quite sturdy.
- Angostura, on 06/10/2008, -3/+6Umm, you do know that the iPhone will be selling from $199 didn't you? So presumably, you'll pay extra for the Tom Tom just because you want the pose-value of a more expensive device, right?
- cyssero, on 04/18/2009, -0/+3In fact a-GPS is much faster than standard GPS because it uses cell-towers as assistance to get a fix. It's no less accurate nor does it 'miss' things. If you can't get a cell-phone triangulation fix I think it just reverts to getting a satellite lock.
These days most 'standalone' GPS units are really just PDAs without buttons. Most run a variant of Windows CE with similar processors to actual PDAs. You can even get to the Windows sub-system on a lot of GPS units with a few modifications and run media players and whatnot. - MacParrot, on 06/10/2008, -4/+7and what happens when Nokia and Motorola start including this functionality into their phones?
- nogami, on 06/10/2008, -0/+3Might want to read a bit more. Here's a link for you:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A-GPS
A-GPS uses the GPS satellite data, but is "Assisted" (hence, the "A"), with additional data from cell towers and a downloadable ephemeris, so it obtains a satellite lock faster, and can still provide some limited abilities when you're inside, where the GPS signal is blocked, but cell towers are not.
So yes, it is full GPS. - cleonm, on 06/10/2008, -0/+3The iPhone won't be killing anything as long as it's only offered on one carrier here in the US.
- alecks, on 06/10/2008, -0/+3Agreed... Personally hate the quasi-3D views on nav systems.... I can read a map top-down just fine
- P5ycHo, on 06/10/2008, -0/+3TomTom has already build a iPhone version for the 3G device.
- iamjames, on 06/10/2008, -0/+3"I hiked Mt Rainier...and used a Garmin hand held GPS.... GPS units are a far larger market than just a piece of electronics that sites on the dash "
But I think you'd have to agree that the large majority of GPS buyers are purchasing them for driving directions rather than to climb mountains. - manitoba98xp, on 06/10/2008, -0/+3Geotagging's apparently in there.
http://www.macworld.com/article/133856/2008/06/iph ... - christhechris, on 06/10/2008, -0/+2TomTom has reacted well, planned ahead...what about all the other companies?
- jo21, on 06/10/2008, -0/+2it won't happen, nokia got there 3 years before apple.... the market is theirs and now they are selling 100 millions smartphones with gps each year
- christhechris, on 06/10/2008, -0/+2the interface tries to eat you...
- colemanm, on 06/11/2008, -0/+2What the iPhone mostly needs to kill other GPSs is to _not have a phone in it_. Some people just want a GPS and don't need a phone to go with it. Standalone pocket _mountable_ GPSs will still have the majority of the market share.
- pinchduck, on 06/10/2008, -0/+2Don't have a "GPS" charge for a free service. I've got a couple of Garmin units and, of course, there is NO MONTHLY CHARGE. I am amazed that Verizon gets away with charging people $15 per month for a free service. That would be a good start. Other than that, no one is going to mount an iphone on their bike, or use it for hours in the woods as a GPS, or mount it on their ATV and go mud holing. No one will use it for surveying, and it won't replace military units. In other words, the story is inaccurate from the get go. Apple *might* make some big inroads into the consumer handheld market, but they won't destroy other competitors.
- chrismartintx, on 06/11/2008, -0/+2seriously... i would rather carry my cheap foretrex through the rockies while hunting than a several hundred dollar iphone.
- alwaysnomadic, on 11/18/2008, -0/+2+10 for downloadable maps, topo maps, and [importable/exportable] tracks and waypoints
+5 for geotagging photos but, for me, not calls etc. sounds too freaky
+10 for honing in on friends etc. Good for finding out where the wife is too - she doesn't need to know about this feature. Seriously though - good for tracking someone in trouble and/or the kids, or at least their phones. - ChzPlz, on 06/10/2008, -0/+2Hmm... since this is described as "ground-breaking", I guess this isn't commonplace.
http://www.businesswire.com/portal/site/google/?nd ... - Angostura, on 06/10/2008, -0/+2And did you think Steve is after that market? I don't think so. He's after the 'GPS, that's quite nice, I might buy one of those one day, but not yet' market.
- brjndr, on 06/10/2008, -0/+2I had an original tomtom where the data was stored on an sd card. You could fit all of the US and Canada, including points of interest, on a one gig card. That still leaves plenty of space on the iphone.
- ssj2119, on 06/10/2008, -1/+3How about fixing the normal phone features?
-save sms as draft
-copy and paste
-MMS
-Forward sms
etc - silence7, on 06/10/2008, -0/+2There's no way an iPhone is going to take the kind of abuse that my Garmin 60csx takes. dirt, dust, water, long drops. I think the iPhone is a cool device and the addition of a GPS is great, but it will not replace a serious single purpose GPS, at least not yet.
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