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- PoopOnPaul, on 03/14/2008, -12/+588"When I would watch the Mac ads with the nerdy PC guy and the cool Mac dude I always secretly rooted for the PC guy."
Dude, everybody does. I love my Mac, but PC guy is funny and likable, while Mac guy is just smug. - inactive, on 03/14/2008, -54/+410I don't discriminate people according to computer preference, but I had an episode with my new room mate the other day, that's making me rethink that policy. Somehow, we started discussing movies (probably since I'm a movie editor by trade, mostly independent work). Anyway, I happened to let it slip that I didn't buy DVDs.
"You're an editor and you don't buy DVDs?" he asks me, a look of confusion on face. I smiled and quietly explained how I rent movies over Netflix and rip them to a secondary hard drive using Handbrake. "Handbrake," he asked. "What's that?" So I take him into my room and show him.
"You're one of THOSE people," he says, stopping dead in his tracks, glaring at my new Mac Pro.
"Those people?"
"You're one of those Apple people," he repeats to me, as if I have a communicable disease.
I ignore the comment and start demonstrating Handbrake for him. As I finish demonstrating how easy it is to use, I end with: "You can get this for your Windows computer too. It's cross platform."
I turn to him and he's staring at my Mac as if he's never seen something so disgusting. "What's wrong?" I ask him.
"I just don't see how you buy something so expensive."
"Well, I'm an editor. I bought it for Final Cut Pro."
"Why not use Premiere or something?"
"No one in the industry uses Premiere," I say, perhaps a little too smugly. His irritation increases. Oh boy. Big mistake.
"I bet they don't use Final Cut Pro either."
"No," I admit, "most editors use Avid, but Avid was too expensive when I bought my first Mac. It would cost about $100,000 for an Avid system. That changed some, but they're competing with Apple now, so they..."
"Well, how much does Avid cost now?"
"I don't know. I really haven't checked..."
"Why not?"
"Well, for one thing, I've been using Final Cut Pro for five years. Look, really famous editors use it too."
"Like who?"
"Well, umm, Walter Murch for one."
This name draws a blank.
"He's the guy that edited Apocalypse Now."
"Oh," he says, irritated.
"And that movie, you know, Napoleon Dynamite, was edited using Final Cut Pro." This bit of info hits him hard. A few days after moving in, I had seen him watching this movie with his girlfriend. He suddenly crosses his arm, staring past the Mac now, ignoring it.
"I just don't see how you can buy something with so many... limitations."
"Limitations?"
"Yeah, Macs have no software!"
"Like what?"
"Ummm... Microsoft Office."
"Macs have Microsoft Office."
"No they don't!"
"You've never heard of Office for Mac?"
He shakes his head.
"Here, take a look." I lean down to my Mac, activating the Microsoft Word icon sitting in the dock on my Mac screen.
My roommate points at the screen as Word opens. "See, you could get the same thing on a PC for a lot less."
"I told you, I bought it for Final Cut Pro. There's no Final Cut Pro for PC."
"That's because Steve Jobs's an *****."
"Well, maybe, but that's kinda beside the point..."
"You can't get AutoCAD," he blurts out, his eyes lighting up. "Or games."
"Why would I need AutoCAD? I'm not an engineer."
"But if you WERE, you'd be totally *****."
"Well, not really. I mean, there's always boot camp."
"Huh? What the hell is that?"
"Check this out." I restart my Mac while holding down the option key. I select Windows when prompted and step back from the screen, grinning as XP loads up. My roommate is staring from me to the screen as if I'm doing this by magic.
"That's not real."
"Sure it is." I lean down and activate Steam. "My activation is going to run out soon. I just installed it to test the video card a bit, but this is mostly my work computer, you know. So no video games."
I log successfully into Steam and load up CounterStrike. I log into one my favorite servers and start blasting away, completely ignoring him as I get pulled into the game. When I finally look up at the end of a match, my roommate is completely gone. He hasn't spoken to me for three days. - inactive, on 03/14/2008, -46/+286Man, do I love my PC games.
- brisbin33, on 03/14/2008, -12/+158that was awesome; by the end of it i completely forgot it was a digg comment; not a full article. great story;
i share similar experiences with skeptic friends, except i use parallels and a desktop manager to 'cube-flip' mac os x to vista to xp to ubuntu and back with just a keystroke to really get the wow factor; coherence is nice too. do that on a windows machine. - Jarasmen, on 03/14/2008, -24/+133I'm probably going to piss everyone off, but... I LIKE my Windows. There, I said it.
- staxofmax, on 03/14/2008, -2/+91Man, do I love hot dogs.
- digitalpencil, on 03/14/2008, -26/+97It's one of the things i tend to overlook but my first impression of macs was how flawlessly they set themselves up. Pop in the disc, 5 clicks later, you're up & running, surfing the web. No pre-installed bloatware, no ads for service subscriptions (save .mac). It just sits there, asks you your name and trundles along quite happily.
I think that first, out-of-box experience is why so many fall instantly in love.. it's just streamlined. - stympman, on 03/14/2008, -5/+67It means that the a PC developer got a Mac.
PS I love my Xbox 360, Vista PC, MacBookPro, and iPhone equally. They are all my children and they all need love. - staxofmax, on 03/14/2008, -4/+64Protip: When you're watching porn online, don't install every media codec that the pop-up windows tell you to. Almost every time someone gets a virus, it's because they did something really ***** stupid.
- PoopOnPaul, on 03/14/2008, -3/+59That makes sense...he is a major part of Mac advertising...it'd be weird if he wasn't a Mac user.
Gotta remember to separate the actor from the character! - mmurph, on 03/14/2008, -8/+63You realize apple has been shipping multi-button mice for a number of years now, right?
- Shawn4168, on 03/14/2008, -29/+81Man, do I love not being stupid and careless with my computer usage, so that I can play games without viruses, and not need to dual boot.
- logicalnoise, on 03/14/2008, -13/+64been using windows since 3.1(considering I'm only 22 thats quite a while for me). I've never hated macs just apples politics and pricing. They make good computers but just not cost effective ones. I built a up to date PC myself for a bit over 400 a few months ago. I just don't have that option with apple unless I go second hand. I could afford a mac mini but really what's the point? It's a weakling of a machine and pretty much a locked down set top box.
Yeah I know about frankenmacs but it's more trouble than it's worth IMO. - Wargalas, on 03/14/2008, -10/+60You're right. How is that new game Warcraft III working out for you? :)
- Vindicoth, on 03/14/2008, -19/+68Mac users brag that they can run windows.
PC users brag that they can run OS X.
The only difference now days is how much you pay for hardware and whether or not you want to build it yourself. - inactive, on 03/14/2008, -67/+115Man, do I love using Boot Camp to play my PC games and then running back to OS X before those viruses track me down.
- SkinsFTW, on 03/14/2008, -25/+72I think I know why too: John Hodgman (the actor that plays PC) is a Mac user! At least that's what his bio on IMDB says.
- inactive, on 03/14/2008, -6/+49What really upset me about this incident was that I was totally NOT trying to push Apple on him, but he irritated me enough to where I wanted to show him he was wrong. I'm sure he tells all his friends I'm a smug Apple loving bastard now. Even his girlfriend acts funny around me now. Jesus Christ.
- digitalpencil, on 03/14/2008, -5/+45While i'll agree with your sentiment, it's a fallacy to suggest that OS/X doesn't crash. It does, perhaps less than its Windows counterpart but it crashes all the same, all OS's do. Ever heard of a kernel panic?
- modix, on 03/14/2008, -8/+47I haven't seen a virus in 4 years, and I don't run anti-virus software. Don't be stupid. About every virus left requires you to activate it. Don't download executable files from suspicious sources. It's not hard.
- thailand1972, on 03/14/2008, -4/+42As soon as I read the title of this story, I *KNEW* the Windows guy would end up saying he likes the Mac. It would have been a lot funnier if he hated it.
- unpolloloco, on 03/14/2008, -50/+87*tries to run AutoCAD*............
Anyway, I just cant justify spending so much more for an Apple. A used 800mhz G4 costs more than my new 2ghz dual-core inspiron did. If Apple felt like releasing a version that I could actually install on a non-mac without pirating and building my system for apple compatibility, I'd be quad-booting with OSX, Vista, XP, and Ubuntu.
also, Safari sucks
/rant - staxofmax, on 03/14/2008, -5/+42In regards to the compaints about bloatware and pre-installed subscription software, this is the fault of PC manufacturers, not Microsoft. I purchased and installed an OEM version of Windows Vista six months ago and it was free from any of that crap. It runs flawlessly.
- Whaines, on 03/14/2008, -7/+43You can't use "Safari sucks" as a point because Internet Explorer sucks as well.
- jdigg06, on 03/14/2008, -4/+40Does anyone else think this article was shallow and not informative at all??? For crying out loud - the guy like his "shiny new little toy with the cute buttons and no spyware", but we didn't hear a THING about performance, applications compatibility or portability, or the fact that he is now running off a Unix framework instead of DOS.
Nothing.
A very lame article indeed.
Yes I am running Vista, Ubuntu, and use a Mac and XP at work but I like them all for different reasons. But alas, he wrote the article and not me so I'll stop now... - Sammi84, on 03/14/2008, -10/+45It's the point. Apple intended it that way. We're supposed to recognize ourselves in the PC guy and feel sorry and sympathy him and ourselves.
- UltraMegaFilms, on 03/14/2008, -21/+54...and then just conform, drop a few G's and smell our own farts.
- Enron, on 03/14/2008, -2/+32Are you surprised that it worked?
- cmiller1, on 03/14/2008, -14/+43Most freaking typical exchange between a mac and PC user ever transcribed to the intarwebs! For all of those windows fanboys that say that everyone that likes macs just does it for style, I feel it's a million times more true that all of you just like windows because of ignorance, fear, uncertainty, and doubt
- Brainclone, on 03/14/2008, -10/+36I hated Mac, I worked as a developer for large companies .... including Microsoft, for the last 15 years.
Last year I decided to look at the new OS because Vista was such a let down, I had to downgrade to XP after issues with VisualStudio.Net and vista and never upgraded it back up. I doubt I could ever program on a Mac as easily as I can on windows, but I really didn't want my wife having issues with the computer at home, while I was at work.
So, I plopped down the cash (yeah, I got the desktop with the terrabyte as I figured I would dual boot in XP and needed the space). I now dual boot into XP when I need to do programming, or work... then go to Mac for playtime, video and pictures...
I have to say that this machine is the most solid XP machine I have ever worked with. Apple knows how to deal with drivers, and hardware very very well, better than Dell, HP, or any others I have worked with through the years. Windows XP, Just works smoothly. When I switch over to Mac, it's a bit strange.
Here is what I mean, I don't know short cuts, or how to use the "explorer" type viewer to look for stuff, I am always looking for the "options" screens and stuff like that, but there aren't many. You just type something, and it shows up. You just put in a disc, and it burns it with stuff you select, or an ISO without much fanfare or dialog boxes.
I find myself thinking, "that's it?... where are all the dialog boxes, or screens I normally have to go through to do such-and such???"
I find myself thinking that alot when I am using the Mac OS.
It is perfect for my wife, and I am finding out it is quite a relief in maintenance and ease of use... and when it's time to do programming to bring in the bacon, it is smooth and powerful. - MacSuxWindozSux, on 03/14/2008, -1/+26Oh I love downloading screensavers and opening email attachments from Nigerian royalty...
- skidooer, on 03/14/2008, -1/+25The biggest difference is that you can legally run Windows on a Mac. You can't legally run OS X on a PC.
- idiotwithastick, on 03/14/2008, -3/+27That's one of the reasons why PCs are cheaper than macs, because software companies pay OEMs to put demoware on the machines. This happens because of competition--PC makers don't have a monopoly in their market (while Apple sells all macs) and therefore have to try to make their products as cheap as possible. I wish more OEMs would sell "clean" systems for slightly more money, but I seriously don't see why anyone would buy them. Personally, I would just reformat on reception of the computer.
- jemka, on 03/14/2008, -3/+26He's acting.
- inactive, on 03/14/2008, -2/+25Same here, I prefer Macs, but don't find the "mac guy" to give any good image to Apple.
- sononame, on 03/14/2008, -7/+30not much of a review on his mac book as it is several stories on people around him who use apple products
- JamesMorris, on 03/14/2008, -8/+31***** hell mate, how can i be as cool as you?!
- PleaseJustDie, on 03/14/2008, -4/+26Macs have lots of great games like Breakout... Super Breakout... oh and that puzzle game with the apple logo, that's a great game... i beat it but its still a great game...
the best part of mac gaming is that I already know what games that come out for the Mac are good cause I already played them years ago on the PC. - philiaC, on 03/14/2008, -0/+22That's because if you could run OS X on a PC you built no one would buy Apple products anymore.
- nova912, on 03/14/2008, -2/+23no, not emulate, run natively.
- e808, on 03/14/2008, -1/+22I can tell this guy is on the cutting edge of technology since he uses WEP on his wireless network.
- modix, on 03/14/2008, -3/+23I sometimes wonder how much people's low opinion of Windows is based on the fact they've never seen a clean install. Getting a 3rd party to install an intentionally modified operating system is just asking for trouble for the end user.
- nova912, on 03/14/2008, -2/+22This has worked since os 8.6, in 1999.
- SkinsFTW, on 03/14/2008, -1/+21John Hodgman is a comic genius. He's one of my favorites on The Daily Show. He's also the only person to ever be a guest on The Daily Show and then become part of the cast.
- monospaced, on 03/14/2008, -7/+27But Apple DOES load it's machines with software...software that's USEFUL.
There's no denying that iLife (part of OS X) is a kickass set of applications. - inactive, on 03/14/2008, -1/+18why in the hell would you have a PC for photoshop? It was created for Macs
- inactive, on 03/14/2008, -8/+25The first thing that i thought was great about a mac is installing/removing apps. You just click the .dmg , and drag to the applications folder. Just feels cleaner and easier than those windows install/uninstall processes.
- eggsovereasy, on 03/14/2008, -0/+17I bought a windows laptop at Best Buy over a year ago and for a fee they said they would clean it up. If they offer a service to do this its a problem.
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