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- luckk, on 10/10/2007, -7/+50I run two Apple TV-related web sites: http://appletvhacks.net and http://appletvsource.com . It seems like the Apple TV is the laughing stock of the iProducts. It would be great if this happens. However, I think Apple needs to do way more than this to keep the product going. Apple TV has a great potential. The only people slowing down its progress is APPLE!
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -7/+38What if more than 1000 people actually bought an AppleTv?
- sjbdallas, on 10/10/2007, -1/+26Bring the price down a bit so it can compete with Tivo and allow hard drive upgrades and i'm in.
- jcannonb, on 10/10/2007, -1/+18AppleTV not being a true DVR is the one thing stopping me from purchasing one, because I already bought a Dual Core Mac Mini in 2006 to hook up to my DLP television before I had even heard of "Apple TV" being rumored. I was eye balling a USB 2.0 DVR stick the other day for my Mac Mini, but if Apple TV were to build it in, it would be yet another Apple product I would buy...
- nitrousconsumed, on 10/10/2007, -3/+20dugg for title. for some reason i wouldnt find it surprising if Jobs actually did that. as he announce it, he says 'you can record your favorite NBC episodes from the comfort of your living room'. it would be priceless.
- Piedramente, on 10/10/2007, -3/+19They do this, and I'll seriously consider buying one.
- supermanred, on 10/10/2007, -1/+12NBC alone made 10 million dollars last year off 2 dollar downloads. Thats 5 million episodes purchased off iTunes...probably more if you figure in that Apple gets a few cents out of every one.
There's money in this, and NBC knows it as they see their itunes purchases go up and now basically they got greedy and wanted to cut out the shopkeeper and sell their own tv shows. Bad idea. Nobody goes to the NBC video store to buy season dvd sets of their shows, they go to HMV or Walmart or whatever. I personally wont go to a seperate NBC store, Ill just buy from whats available on iTunes. ***** NBC. I repeat ***** NBC. - nreynolds, on 10/10/2007, -0/+9what? Which part is fake? the part that says "if"?
- nifty, on 10/10/2007, -0/+9If they could get it right, that would be amazing. I think it would also ignite some of the fiercest legal battles surrounding this type of hardware we've seen, or have been luck enough not not to see yet.
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -1/+10it would rock, i really want an apple tv, but it just has to give me more, i need a bigger harddrive, and avi options
- CrazedChemist, on 10/10/2007, -2/+10Plug it in plug it in
- Nerfdude, on 10/10/2007, -5/+12i guess, if it became a DVR, people might actually buy it. Apple tv IS a joke, and should be scrapped. there are cheaper products out there that do the same job better. hell, i can do significantly more with my modded xBox than i could with an Apple TV, and the xbox cost me maybe 75 bucks.
- ATHEISTinHELL, on 10/10/2007, -2/+9I'm no Apple fan boy. But Apple doesn't make that much money from Itunes. Itunes sells Ipods.
- n8rand, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6I think I'd actually get an AppleTV *if* this were to happen. I would also think the increased sales of AppleTVs (them being more useful) would offset the lack/decline of episode purchases. I don't know too many people who purchase the TV shows as it is, but maybe that's just my crowd?
- SuperJimmyJimbo, on 10/10/2007, -2/+8....except they wouldn't sell any TV shows from the store anymore....
- supermanred, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5Good point. Apple is clearly aiming at what we all know is enivitable, which is a world where you pick and choose your tv shows and they play instantly, you can pause them, rewind, fast forward. I dont think his vision of the future includes cable companies. ***** them anyways, Id rather give the 50 or 60 bucks a month to purchaseing the shows I watch for 99 cents each or whatever and not have to watch 20 minutes of commercials from the major networks.
- yabos, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4Yeah right, then it'll be $1000 and no one would buy it.
- jdaniel284, on 10/10/2007, -2/+6Why not buy a $90 500GB harddrive and subscribe to Blockbuster Online or Netflicks and get AnyDVD or and maybe Magic DVD Ripper? Then rip as many damn episodes you like. Buy some software like CuCuSoft converter coupled with AnyDVD and make as many iPod or Zune movies that you want.
I don't understand all this nonsense about Apple TV and $5 NBC episodes. - sleepwalkers, on 10/10/2007, -3/+7It'd be great, but I fail to see how this deserved to reach the front page of Digg. I mean, I understand that it's something cool that everyone would love, but it's been discussed to death already and other than specifically mentioning recording NBC shows, there isn't anything... significant, real or new in this little post... :
It's not that things like this about Apple bother me, or that I don't like the AppleTV - I'd snatch one of these if it did have DVR capabilities... I just don't see why this deserves to make the front page. - Diganta, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4What Apple TV needs is
1. Composite video out. Their content is SD anyway. Most people still have SD
2. Have more HD content.
3. Time-shifting PVR/DVR capabilities
4. Place-shifting i.e. Slingbox using Quicktime Broadcaster to stream video to your iTunes Mac/PC or iPhone
5. Optional. Maybe a DVD player and a high end one with a Blu-ray player
6. Making it a little larger to accommodate a 3.5" HD, so one can get 500GB, 750GB or 1TB capacities
This would require the Apple Remote to have at least Record button - inactive, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4Well, maybe...just maybe...people don't want to wait 10-12 months to watch episodes?
- fkr3, on 10/10/2007, -1/+5Duh there's operating expenses but I'm quite sure iTunes is profitable.
- o2o2o2o2, on 10/10/2007, -1/+5Kinda sucks the AppleTV (iTV) isnt a DVR in the first place! YES MAKE IT A DVR PLEASE!
- archer75, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3It needs to be able to record HD content from cable and satellite as well as play more than one format. It can't so I built my own HTPC and can play any format under the sun. And I still use my Dish Network DVR which allows me to record 3 HD programs at once. So i'm all set.
- agildehaus, on 10/10/2007, -2/+5Nope. This will never happen. It is quite clear that Jobs' vision of the future does not include live TV and a DVR device only prolongs that model. Me and many others want to move to a place where we do not have to pay for 70 channels of extraordinarily crappy content, but pay for what we want.
- fkr3, on 10/10/2007, -1/+4I'm sure they made something off the 3,000,000,000 or whatever it is songs they sold. Even if it was only a penny a song that's a sizable amount of money.
- origclubsoda, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3I plug my cable line right into my TV and get free HD. If I bought the HD recorder from EyeTV I could record free HD.
- maffiou, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3Archos TV+ FTW... (whenever it happens !)
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3no not really, i would think at least 320GB, especially if they can ever get it playing avis, or straight from video_ts
- reed311, on 10/10/2007, -0/+210 million is chump change to NBC. They can make that off a night or less of commercials. iTunes will fold once the big companies begin distributing content by their own methods and cutting out the middle man; and when people realize that the iPod is actually the most restrictive mp3/music player.
- autoy, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2The ATV is in the same position as, say, an iPod that only plays AAC files. Almost worthless if you need to transcode everything you have to a specific format just to play it, people just can't bother to do that if it takes more than two minutes. Has the compatibility of iPods with mp3 totally blocked online sales from the iTunes store? Guess not. In my view and in order to succeed, the ATV desperately needs compatibility. Apple needs to either open the box using a plugin system or include support for most popular codecs like 100% of the rest who make multimedia HDs do (BTW, these are extremely popular in my country, where they serve as a cheap media PC substitute). Yes, doubling the capacity or making it cheaper would kinda help, but compatibiliy is essential if Apple doesn't want to see this product agonize.
- archer75, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Not in HD you can't
- isaaccs, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2So AppleTV doesn't do a lot... and it's a bit expensive for what it is. But I bought one, and frankly, I like it. It plays my iTunes, shows my pictures, it looks great - I've yet to have a guest that doesn't comment, "Wow" if it's turned on. Beyond that, it doesn't do a whole hell of a lot. You could build an equivalent device that has much more in terms of TV capabilities, but not everyone wants to build something. I'd love to see Apple improve the product, there certainly is room for improvement, but I totally disagree that it's a complete flop. It is what it is, if you don't like it don't buy it, but quit moaning about it.
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -2/+4Yeah, and where do you think those 3,000,000,000 songs are stored on? Magical boxes that run on air and don't need be constantly maintained?
- BLKMGK, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2XBMC is being ported to Linux so stay tuned. When done it may provide you exactly what you want on updated hardware. The aTV is one of the platforms being considered for XBMC on Linux but they have stated it might be underpowered. I own an aTV and am working to hack it - buying crap from the iTunes store is NOT what I want to do with it - streaming ala XBMC is.
- joel8x, on 10/10/2007, -1/+3Apple TV does not need to be a DVR, it just needs some more functionality thrown in like RSS feeds (for photos, news, & podcasts directly fed into the device), and syncing with more than one library (maybe music from one PC and video from another - yes you can stream from up to 5 computers, but I'm talking about syncing here). If they also opened up the USB port to allow for external drives without hacking it would be nice. In fact, I really don't know why they disable some stuff that could be easily supported. Otherwise, the thing works much better than I ever though it would.
- windohs, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2I thought there was a public announcement about how much iTunes makes off of music sales?
- wphj, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2It's profitable I'm sure, but I bet the goal is just breaking even. iTunes was just created to make iPods more attractive to customers.
- archer75, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2You still won't be able to record HD from cable or satellite so it's still useless. And it only plays what? 1 or 2 formats?
- Billions, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Well, it does indicate to anyone from Apple that might be reading this that the community wants to see DVR features on the AppleTV, so in that sense, it's communicating our interest. Hopefully someone is listening.
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2The problem though, is that the basic cards REALLY REALLY suck!
- windohs, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2um...TVlinks?
- colincornaby, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1If it had Cablecard (like the Tivo Series 3), it could record HD from cable. It plays MPEG4, but people have installed the DiVX plugin on the AppleTV.
- windohs, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1no monthly fees for the DVR would kill off the already declining health of Tivo
- windohs, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1built in ATSC/NTSC tuner?
- windohs, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Yep...it'll have DVR AND SUPPORT DIVX/XVID
- windohs, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1mac mini is more expensive though...and not much of a difference in HDD space
- jambarama, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Why not? The appleTV wouldn't be the first DVR around, and people have been DVR'ing tv shows a lot longer than iTMS has had TV or appleTV existed. Plus, plenty of people without an appleTV would still buy the shows. Yeah maybe it'll cut in to the $1.99 shows a bit, but only by selling a $200 device. I don't see the downside for apple.
- windohs, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1HD content eats up a crapload of space, unless it was HD Divx compatible you'd need around 320 gb
- windohs, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Of course it would cause a battle, just like it did with the whole VHS recording. It's all B.S. because nobody should care if we watch the shows that we subscribe to (and PAY FOR) anytime that we want. "They" would just rather us keep paying for the same content over and over and over again.
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