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- euphemizeme, on 10/10/2007, -0/+40He canned Norm McDonald. That's all you need to know about this Wurstsauger. They should have canned this douche bag years ago... he's dragged NBC down to 4th place.
- tomzer1, on 10/10/2007, -0/+27From Hulu.com:
"Why Hulu? Objectively, Hulu is short, easy to spell, easy to pronounce, and rhymes with itself. Subjectively, Hulu strikes us as an inherently fun name, one that captures the spirit of the service we're building. Our hope is that Hulu will embody our (admittedly ambitious) never-ending mission, which is to help you find and enjoy the world's premier content when, where and how you want it."
Translation: Doomed. - smurf22, on 10/10/2007, -4/+20Ive never heard of hulu till now.
- ritchmaster, on 10/10/2007, -4/+19Who cares aboutNBC when you have Internet!
- Bricks, on 10/10/2007, -1/+15I think you have me confused with your capslock key.
- PasteEater, on 10/10/2007, -0/+13"In addition, we asked Apple to take concrete steps to protect content from piracy, since it is estimated that the typical iPod contains a significant amount of illegally downloaded material."
Yeah, maybe. But iPods don't actually download the content, desktop and laptop computers do...
BAN COMPUTERS! - mbradbury, on 10/10/2007, -1/+11And effectively translates to "cease and desist" in Swahili.
- Gyp2, on 10/10/2007, -1/+11NBC has become like, RIAA stupid
- daworld, on 10/10/2007, -1/+11"He canned Norm McDonald. That's all you need to know about this Wurstsauger. They should have canned this douche bag years ago... he's dragged NBC down to 4th place."
Like Conan O'Brien said, NBC is making a Drive for Five - tech42er, on 10/10/2007, -1/+111. Don't use tinyurl's.
- redrock34, on 10/10/2007, -0/+10It certainly has nothing to do with their new venture with News Corp http://www.nytimes.com/2007/03/23/technology/23video.html?ex=1332302400&en=cf4406c18e1ac229&ei=5088&partner=rssnyt&emc=rss
- Shiner6, on 10/10/2007, -2/+11So for some reason my original comment ended up above this comment and not as a reply. Strange. So I repost, in hopes of the Digg Community understanding this was the comment systems fault.
- Well on iTunes, Apple does control the distribution. NBC can distribute their ***** programming anywhere they want, Apple clearly isn't holding a gun to their heads. Infact, it's quite the opposite. They simply said "***** you" - wbgo, on 10/10/2007, -2/+11Note to media company CEOs: Do what Steve Jobs tells you. The meteoric success of the companies he has run compared to the mediocre success of yours would indicate he's much smarter than you.
- 16x9, on 10/10/2007, -1/+10Holy crap, you're stupid!
- Urusai, on 10/10/2007, -2/+11Apple screwed up? NBC was getting suckers, ahem, iPod owners to PAY for content they could get for free off the air.
- gconway, on 10/10/2007, -0/+8Let's see, $1.99 an episode for a season of 22 episodes = $44, about the price of a discounted DVD box set from Amazon; but without the box, without the DVDs, without the extra material, without the higher-quality video and audio. Sounds like a deal to me! And wouldn't it be an even bigger deal to get buyers to pay $110 for a season without packaging, production, design and delivery costs? Awesome! As someone who's picked up only a handful of TV episodes from iTunes to sample shows I otherwise would've missed, I can't figure out why ANYONE would buy a show from iTunes as it stands now -- never mind how it would be if these morons managed to change the pricing. How do these idiots get and keep their jobs? Oh, I forgot -- this is television we're talking about...
- titlesaysitall, on 10/10/2007, -2/+10NBC is reeling from the shock that can't anal rape everyone with extreme pricing. I expect to see a lawsuit from this, particularly emotional loss and medical bills needing to be payed from Steve telling Jeff he can go (F)Zucker himself in the corner.
- oxymoron69, on 10/10/2007, -0/+8How much did they spend for a marketdroid to come up with "hulu" and then that little blurb they're using to try and sell it?
I don't think it's a fun name at all... - Shiner6, on 10/10/2007, -1/+8Well on iTunes, Apple does control the distribution. NBC can distribute their ***** programming anywhere they want, Apple clearly isn't holding a gun to their heads. Infact, it's quite the opposite. They simply said "***** you"
- Herolint, on 10/10/2007, -1/+8I just have to say, of all the combinations of taboo words with regular words to make a bland and uncreative insult (e.g. ass-hat, dick-lips, etc.), "*****" has got to be the most banal.
- jayhawk, on 10/10/2007, -1/+8conact jeff zucker
jeff.zucker@nbcuni.com - Shiner6, on 10/10/2007, -0/+7And by Mike I assume you mean Mark?
- Arramol, on 10/10/2007, -0/+7What actually got said in the board meeting:
"We need something trendy, something that's hip with all the latest fashions."
"Well, that Wii thing is selling a lot. We should come up with a gibberish name too!" - HunterTV, on 10/10/2007, -0/+7"Sooner or later (Probably the former rather than the latter)..."
You're confuszingz me. Please stop. It hurts real bad. - streak, on 10/10/2007, -0/+7hulu is fubar
- staticoranges, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6It's not that hard to go up to the button that says "Customize" and uncheck "Apple" from the list of things you want to see displayed on the front page.
- pixelbud, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6Amen to that. All this boils down to is Greed. NBC wants to control the content distribution model. Rape us with pricing. And in effect are shooting themselves in the foot. Much ground will be lost. Many torrents will be shared - in higher volume.
- pyro116, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5the kind of idiot who uses IE on Windows? just kidding. I really need to get around to fixing that, apologize for the rendering problems.
- Celeron, on 10/10/2007, -3/+8I heard upon entering Zuckerland, your soul gets sucked out of your body and eaten by Zucker himself.
- Gorrondonuts, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5"How much do you think I could get for making out? $50?"
- Shiner6, on 10/10/2007, -2/+7Just because you like it, that does not make it great programming. Whether they are with Apple or not, I don't watch the shows.
BINGO - you've got it. NBC gave a rediculously high price in negotiations to get press about the situation so everyone would go to nbc.com to watch their shows when they found out they were leaving iTunes. - saifatlast, on 10/10/2007, -1/+6If you're going to use tinyurls, at least use the one it gives you that tells the person where they're going first (it's like an intermediate page, in case the person is afraid of having their eyes burned out).
Also, it would help if you didn't link to something so goddamn stupid that I wanted to beat you with a 2x4. - saifatlast, on 10/10/2007, -1/+6I've occasionally bought a TV show on iTunes.
1) I had a gift card.
2) I couldn't find a decent torrent, and it was the one episode of the season (BSG season 2 I think) that I was missing.
3) I don't have a dvr, but even if I did, I don't have cable. Even if I had cable, I didn't start watching BSG until long after the episode aired.
Dumbass. Lot's of people buy TV shows.
Edit: thanks for the extra whitespace, ***** up digg comment system! - Herolint, on 10/10/2007, -1/+6I don't think you've ever used iTunes to download a TV show. There simply isn't a better distribution method of its kind out there that I've seen. Especially when you buy a season pass. When a new episode is out, it just automatically downloads to your machine for your viewing pleasure. Pirate Bay has a fairly easy distribution method, but I think iTunes still has them beat (not on price, of course). TV is probably the easiest method, but it doesn't magically get onto your iPod.
Of course you are correct, it is NBC's content and they can do whatever they want with it. Apple, being the owner of the iTunes distribution system can, of course, tell NBC to jump in a ditch too. And I, as the owner of my money, can tell NBC to go zucker themselves if they think I'm going to pay $5.00 to watch a TV show. - DeflatorMouse, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5"It is clear that Apple's retail pricing strategy for its iTunes service is designed to drive sales of Apple devices, at the expense of those who create the content that make these devices worth buying."
Then why do I find myself pressing the YouTube button on my iPhone about 856 times more often than I ever download an NBC product off of iTunes? - euphemizeme, on 10/10/2007, -2/+6touché
- Drewjames, on 10/10/2007, -3/+7NBC has just made a powerful enemy.
Think: Pixar vs. Disney when Eisner was in charge. - TiMMY8765, on 10/10/2007, -1/+5I think of Barry Zuckercorn
- streak, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4Zucker's elf in this endeavor is Jeff Gaspin.
- babble, on 10/10/2007, -6/+10"NBC owns their content, they can sell it or not however they want. End of Story."
Ah, how utterly inconvenient, the modern age with its digital communications technologies, enabling consumers to actually speak their minds when greedy media companies make monumentally stupid decisions...things were so much better back before this interweb thing. Just imagine how much simpler things would be for poor, besotten NBC if they didn't have to actually deal with pesky Apple giving them free money and a new distribution channel; how much more lovely the world would be for NBC if people simply bought NBC's ***** instead of calling them on it.
The anti-apple trolls have (as usual) got it wrong. Quelle surprise. - streak, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4And the illegal content doesn't come from iTMS.
NBC Uni is just using this as an excuse to create their own web site. I guess it will make them feel hipper than the rest. Unfortunately, video content with ads is not as hip as content without ads.
Hola, hulu, it was nice knowin' ya. - 1ofMany, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4It will be fun to watch how this plays out over the next few months
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4That's just L.A.
- jer2eydevil88, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4It'll be a year at least before they pull the plug on this little venture...
- jer2eydevil88, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4Be polite if you email this guy! He's a pencil pusher not a visionary so don't lambast him for being who he is.
- cleverboy, on 10/10/2007, -1/+4Let's be even MORE fair. gconway, MOST people shopping iTunes do not buy 22 episodes of anything (sometimes they do, but not always). They buy an episode here or there.
They decide if they want a particular episode to see again, and they buy it. That's the whole flaming point isn't it? If I had to BUY the Season on DVD everytime, I wouldn't. Moveover, in some cases its cheaper, but the two formats ONLY compete when the DVD has an iPod ready version on the DVD-ROM (not often the case). People are paying for the convenience of the format, NOT simply for the content. While I wouldn't buy the South Park season on DVD, I've purchased two episodes that made me laugh my ass off. If I do buy the DVD later, I don't mind that I'm double-dipping. Moreover, I refuse to by Avatar on iTunes, because the series is so god, I really want to just get the DVD. I don't care about indidivual episodes. Believe it or not, because one is immediate gratification and the other is quality and extra conent... some people... some, even double dip.
Make more sense now? - pixelbud, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3It has everything to do with Apple, if you would do your research. They wanted *Apple* to charge $4.99 an episode on TV shows. Now if you would read the articles before actually commenting, that would be great. Thanks.
- yobkeeg, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3NBC and Universal really outdone themselves this time. This Jeff Zucker got to rethink this one, how can you be charging $5 US a pop per episode when you are selling the darn season for about $50. With Tivo and Internet, they are lucky to be getting 2 bucks per episode, let alone $5, good luck zucker!
- Gabberwok, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3Okay, not that it's a real e-mail address or anything, but this is the public e-mail for the CEO of Hulu.... "jason.kilar@hulu.com" Please feel free to let him now how displeased you are about NBC's plans to abandon iTunes for Hulu, and make sure to include something to the effect of "I will boycott your website and make sure that all of my friends agree never to go to it as well." And for the hell of it... "I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul..."
- tech42er, on 10/10/2007, -1/+4It was a convenience charge. You'd have to record it, rip it, and convert it to get it on the iPod.
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