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- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -6/+58I agree. iTunes doesn't work in Vista. The title of this story is biased and incorrect as well. ITUNES doesn't support Vista, not the other way around. Read the fricken description as well:
"...the iTunes application does not currently support Windows Vista."
Wtf? Why would people write a title with that kind of sensationalism.. - MoreTimeNMoney, on 10/12/2007, -0/+21To get it to work [go] into the iTunes folder in Program Files and the right click on iTunes and Run as Administrator. Then go in an Authorize. It Worked . ..
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=3993445 - swimmingbird67, on 10/12/2007, -1/+21People who have iPods?
- estvir, on 10/12/2007, -3/+22Stupid title, it should be "iTunes does not support Vista" like in the freaking description. Damn anti-MS morons.
Also, iTunes works fine. In the RTM version I just installed it like I did with XP, no problems. Reported. - sfmman, on 10/12/2007, -1/+20Restating the above:
1. Open C:Program FilesiTunes
2. Right click iTunes.exe, then go into properties.
3. Finally, under the Compatibility tab, check 'Run this program as an administrator'.
4. Done!
*BONUS STEP*
5. Control Panel --> User Accounts --> Turn User Account Control off --> TURN OFF! - Shorties, on 10/12/2007, -0/+18I have had Vista for months (First the Betas and now I own the final) and have never had a problem with iTunes I use it every day and I authorised my computer with no problem, I even had no problem deauthorizing my beta Vista iTunes and authorising my retail Vista iTunes.
- estvir, on 10/12/2007, -4/+21WMP, Zune, Songbird, MediaMonkey and a ton of other apps can and do compete.
- wafflez, on 10/12/2007, -0/+16umm...is something wrong? i'm running itunes fine on windows vista ultimate >_>
- podgey22, on 10/12/2007, -1/+16I'm just chipping in. All this "Vista doesn't support this hardware" or "Vista doesn't support this software" is just *****.
Apple and nVidia (my problem vendor) are the people that have had access to Vista for almost a year now and have released crumby support. - moisie, on 10/12/2007, -3/+16I'm no vista fan but it's just as much, if not more or even entirely, that iTunes doesn't work in vista. That said, if you run software that isn't supported on a particular OS then you can hardly be surprised when it doesn't work.
- MikeCerm, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8Microsoft did provide a legacy bridge in the form of a year long public beta test period. I don't know what the hell the third party developers were up to during that period. Nothing apparently. Nvidia and ATI got working drivers shipped just days before the consumer launch.
When OSX came out, Classic sucked ass. - wastern, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7@panique
Now, I'm an Apple fanboy, but wtf are you talking about? MS didn't move to a new architecture, they didn't need any kind of Classic environment or Rosetta layer for anything.
In reality Apple is the one that leaves behind its old software and forces the developers to upgrade their apps to work with it, just because they provide ways to ease the switch doesn't mean they don't make everyone change over. Look how many people are already saying their new versions will only work with Leopard...and its not even out yet. This is in part because they know so many people will upgrade, in part because the new versions offer some great features they want to put in, and in part because its just easier to program.
Apple leaves things behind and doesn't worry too much because of security. Part of Windows' problem is legacy support and the security problems it causes. Mistakes of the past are carried into the future. Part of the reason Vista took so long was for legacy support and to make sure they supported as much as they could, they know Windows users don't like buying new ***** like Apple users do.
However, there comes a point where Microsoft will have to leave the past behind and force an upgrade and make everyone migrate, like Apple did with OS X. They could have done it with Vista, but chose not to for whatever reason. It will catch up with them at some point. They are building bigger and bigger castles on eroding sand.
As for this issue, its Apple's. They need to see why people are having these issues, fix it, and release a new version of iTunes, and possibly Quicktime that offer support for both XP and Vista. - pintomp3, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7the irony is that "the iTunes application does not currently support Windows Vista" is quoted in the description. way to spin things.
- sfmman, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5digg deleted my slashes in step 1...but, you know what I meant!
- MikeCerm, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5So far, I've found that if you turn off UAC, everything works. I don't know if that applies to iTunes, but I've found it to be true of several third-party apps. iTunes is notoriously bad for Windows (though not as bad as Quicktime), so who knows what the problem could be.
Once people learn to write apps that don't require administrative privileges all the time, UAC will be much less problematic. - JeffH, on 10/12/2007, -3/+8Misleading topic title. The ***** quote in the description says that it's iTunes that doesn't support Vista, not the other way around.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -4/+8who cares, itunes is *****
- gravis86, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3sfmman:
Kudos for the bonus step. That was the first thing I did after I installed Vista RC1. But now the security center keeps telling me to turn it back on. Does anyone know how to turn off the reminders, too? Or has this changed for the RTM? - ldavid, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I think the best thing to do would be to wait until their is support for iTunes with Windows Vista. Let's just hope that support isn't too far away...
- ElectricSoup, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3"WMP, Zune, Songbird, MediaMonkey and a ton of other apps can and do compete."
However, that doesn't mean they do what people want. Windows Media Player still hasn't got RSS support. Songbird seems intended more for browsing music websites and, in any case, is not on release yet -- it's at 0.21 developer preview.
And the only thing the Zune is competing for is most DRM-crippled and derided product of the year. Now it seems even three days or three (partial) plays is too much for some of Microsoft's partners:
http://www.htlounge.net/articles/2202/1/Sony-and-Universal-have-done-a-big-fat-smackdown-on-Zune
It makes the Zune's most touted feature even more useless than it currently was.
Live and let live. Be content that people use what applications and products they like and that fit their purposes when other applications and products don't. - Shorties, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Yeah gravis86 go into the security center (In the control panel) then on the left below the globe "Change the way security center alerts me" and hit Don't Notify and Don't display the icon and no more bothersome messages. But I dislike doing that because I like to see if something has gone wrong with my firewall or if I need an update for AVG, so I just tolerate the messages.
- Cougaboy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Someone on Digg suggested musikcube in the comments, and I decided to check it out. Honestly, it's a great piece of software. It has everything I need and only uses like 2mb of memory when playing music. Seriously, check it out: http://www.musikcube.com/
- aldenhg, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2IMHO, someone should figure out how to get iTunes running under Linux. iTunes, besides native support for Photoshop and Illustrator is the reason I don't run Linux full time.
- iamjaredc, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2You guys use computers right?
iTunes isn't supported for Visa yet.
Kind of like Photoshop CS3 or Boot Camp aren't supported.
I don't get what everyone doesn't get. Tons of software doesn't support Vista yet. Give it like... a few days? Wow. - aknowles5139, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I had the same problem with iTunes... i tried it again and it worked. I've also been having major problems with QuickTime..... its VERY slow. I was trying to play DIggnation and it froze the entire computer for like 10 mins:S. iTunes works fine accept for importing and the Store has been acting up for me, but thats about it... anyone else havent weird problems like these?
- SkeletaLlama, on 10/12/2007, -6/+8Not being able to run iTunes is the #1 complaint I had about using Linux. It's the whole reason I stopped using it. iTunes is simply the best music management software out there. Nothing else even comes close.
- MikeCerm, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Not that it's all that hard to install FFDshow, but Microsoft really should get off their ass and build in support for MPEG4 video, and probably AAC audio into WMP. I would say "add Ogg support" but I'm sure that's not going to happen any time soon.
WMP11 is definitely slick, but the inability to add anything other that MP3 and Windows Media to the library, even after installing directshow codecs, is a bit of a let down. - jrbrewin, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2apparently, iTunes is good a managing libraries of music. I've never used libraries, and i have a _huge_ collection of music. I have, however tried to use a library in iTunes, WMP9, WMP11, winamp.. and to be fair, WMP11 worked out best for me, and did a better job at finding album art.
- Gizza, on 10/12/2007, -12/+14Could you imagine if it was up to Microsoft to make their OS compatible with every piece of software out there. It would be like trying to use Linux.
- panique, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Well, it appears that iTunes has morphed into a trojan horse, which via a new social engineering vector (DoSing music libraries), is getting people to disable all the new security features built into Vista.
Ok, that was a joke, but seriously, it looks to me like this is XP all over again. Certain apps and drivers insisted that the user have local admin privileges. Wonder how many other vendors are going to allow these kinds of "workarounds" to persist on their user support forums, rater than bite the bullet and support Vista properly. BTW my money says Apple releases a new iTunes before May that works properly under Vista. - justnick, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2If you're using Linux, use amarok. It has all the functions of itunes plus some extras that are cool. It also handles getting cover art better.
If you buy music from itunes then your only two options are to either strip the drm and use another music manager or use cedega. Cedega installs itunes 4 though.
Linux is a big competitor to the Mac and apple will not make itunes for it. Just how it is. - neko, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4@Nitrodist:
"I agree. iTunes doesn't work in Vista. The title of this story is biased and incorrect as well. ITUNES doesn't support Vista, not the other way around. Read the fricken description as well:
"...the iTunes application does not currently support Windows Vista."
Wtf? Why would people write a title with that kind of sensationalism.."
Why is it I only see sensible reasoning like this in defence of Vista? When people start their rhetoric about Linux, it's always "lol, Linux doesn't support Photoshop, Linux doesn't support games, lol" - when it's really Adobe's or the game publishers' problem. The community is even going to insane lengths to make otherwise incompatible things work - wine, ipod support and so on.
I'm sure iTunes will make it to Vista soon enough. It would be insane to think otherwise - unless it's somehow not compatible with DirectTunes10.1c ... - prodaea, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1wait wait! oh yeah, that's right vi$ta sucks.
- wassim2k, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1iTunes works fine on my Vista Ultimate. Sorry for your troubles buddy.
- ih8apple, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Kinda unrelated....but I am just curious if others agree with me...I WANT AN ITUNES SUBSCRIPTION MODEL!!
- pabster, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Yeah, iTunes works fine under Vista x64, but no go on syncing with my iPod. Have to run XP through a VM.
- alexeiz, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Basically iTunes like many poorly written apps requires to run as admin.
- Kelmon, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1This is a fair statement. If the software that you want to use isn't supported for a particular operating system (particularly one that has only just been released and therefore has a market share lower than OS X) then either don't use the software or don't use the unsupported operating system. It's as simple as that. We're all used to reading system requirements for software so I fail to see why "because it's Vista" should be a suitable reason why iTunes should magically work on it.
Yes, Apple probably should have released an update to the Windows version of iTunes that supports Vista but they haven't, so tough. - Philodox, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2I especially like that it's phrased correctly in the short summary. Way to troll for diggs!
- tavisjohn, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Yet another reason to NOT rush out and upgrade to Vista.
Why would I want to run an OS that is soo new, many apps do not run properly on it!
Wait for MS to fix it up (Should take about a year).
Wait for software developers to make their apps Vista compatable. - jrbrewin, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1"Part of Windows' problem is legacy support and the security problems it causes. Mistakes of the past are carried into the future. Part of the reason Vista took so long was for legacy support and to make sure they supported as much as they could,"
firstly, i would say that whilst you're technically right, vista's delay was not the fault of backwards compatibility. Feature creep, bad management, usability studies, and waiting for the rest of the windows / office eco-system to catch up, are more likely scapegoats.
Yes, vista can run very old 16bit and DOS applications, but that's always been the case with windows through the ages, and for the most part the technology that allows that has been in place since windows 98, and then more so in windows2000.
On windows backwards compatibility is an issue. Hence why microsoft proclaim the extraordinary compatibility it has with very old apps. Unfortunately there are people out there that want to run DOS and 16 bit windows apps.. although they are a dying breed. The point is they can.
With OSX it is totally different. Apple all but force you to upgrade, even though you have pay for what are essentially service packs, let alone new major releases of an operating system. And then seemingly forces their development eco system to move too, and cut off support for previous version. Apples support functions themselves do not even support legacy apps and operating systems to the extent that microsoft does.
Odd then, that after one of the longest, and most accessibly public betas for an operating system, where developers have had unprecidented access to community builds, documentation, and support from microsoft, do we see Apple, one of microsoft's rivals seemingly failing to update support of their most widely used application, which brings in most of their revenue.
Dare i say it, almost as if they wanted to cause bad press for microsoft. - JamesShiell, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1[Speaking as an Apple fanboy] Apple should take the heat because Microsoft have made available test versions for months in order to allow vendors to locate such problems - just as Apple have with Tiger patches and Leopard. Even the best of compatibility layers will have problems in certain situations.
iTunes on Windows is hardly a beacon of speed and efficiency in any case. I love my Mac, but they do need to up their game and sort out their Windows offerings. - MikeCerm, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I don't think that many people are smart enough to figure out how to turn off UAC. That's a good thing, because those are the people who need it. After a few months of morons saying, "This ***** don't work!!", you'll start to see more UAC-friendly software.
- methodshop, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1If you've already upgraded to Vista and are having problems with iTunes, you might want to check out a utility called iTunes Repair Tool for Vista. worked for me
http://www.apple.com/downloads/macosx/apple/ipod_itunes/itunesrepairtoolforvista10.html - weiran, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Works for me.
- ldavid, on 10/12/2007, -6/+7iTunes is fantastic at organising your music. It can handle large libraries of music (even multi-libraries). And to boot just like 'swimmingbird67' said...it's great with iPod's.
Nothing can compete with iTunes...well for now anyway... ;) - jrbrewin, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1"Why should Apple take the heat because Microsoft neglected to provide backward-compatibility for legacy apps?"
it would appear that iTunes on PC requires administrative rights to authorise correctly.. if you'd read more comments you'd know that. Thats kind of ironic, don't you think, given apple's view of security on PCs. If everyone ran as normal users we'd have next no worms and viruses.. just like on macos. - ArcCoyote, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Yeah... Apple has had plenty of time to fix this. iTunes misbehaving under Vista has been known since RC1 and hasn't changed since.
In summary:
- Some machines cannot be authorized for Fairplay content. This doesn't affect everyone: I personally didn't have any problems. The workaround appears to be to run iTunes as an administrator once to authorize.
- The bigger problem is with that damn iPodService. You have to set your iPod to "enable disk use". Otherwise, after it updates and goes "OK to disconnect", the iPodService freaks out and the "Removable Disk" icon will disappear and reappear in My Computer every few seconds. This slows down your computer and will eventually cause iTunes to crash. - MikeCerm, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Yeah, Quicktime sucks... it's great in OSX, but the Windows version is really bad. Make sure you have 7.1 or newer. I was using 7.0.x and it was kicking me out of Aero. I upgraded, and now it's functional, (but still crappy).
- allmineonlymine, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0i just recently got a new comp with vista and am having problems importing video's to my ipod, now i also have another comp with xp on it and have no probs, on vista i have turned off my UAC and also tried re-installing it but i still can't import. the program shuts down, now i can however still put songs on my ipod, just not movies, but besides that everything works fine, if anyone has any advice please help. thanks heaps,
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