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- Pattyo13, on 05/14/2009, -4/+50while neat, people will want this then complain about battery life of their constantly vibrating phone
- aserer511, on 07/23/2008, -10/+39this is nothing new; the competition has had haptic for months now
- mediaphile, on 07/23/2008, -1/+22Practice? Not even. The key is just to trust the auto-correction and let your fingers fly. You can completely obliterate a word and it will get it right 90% of the time, provided you were trying to spell it correctly. I mean, you can miss every single key while spelling a word and it will still guess right. My problem is just with the device not tracking my finger movements fast enough to register all the taps.
- dmourati, on 07/22/2008, -6/+23Cool trick to make the keyboard a little easier to deal with.
- P3NGUIN8, on 07/23/2008, -3/+16Cool, ya this stuff has been around for years its in all of verizons phones (touch)
- xsecretfiles, on 07/23/2008, -4/+15I actually love the keyboard,
once it learns all the words and phrases you've typed, you can even use two hands - sw1ft, on 07/23/2008, -1/+10The Samsung Instinct for Sprint has it.
- lysdexic, on 07/23/2008, -1/+10The LG Dare has it. Only has one vibration pattern though.
- Badandy127, on 07/23/2008, -1/+9Anyone who thinks the iPhone keyboard is unusable either hasn't used one, or is a technological idiot.
I have rather large thumbs and type 50 WPM on it. The key is to trust the keyboard, and I know plenty of people who have discounted the iPhone's keyboard because they couldn't understand that concept of how to type... - skeletorcares, on 07/23/2008, -4/+11my voyager has this. I still like the real keyboard (on the inside) better. There is no substitute for the real thing.
- dbz253, on 07/23/2008, -2/+8for example?
- slaverynin, on 07/23/2008, -2/+7like it was stated earlier, all it takes is practice i have no problem at all with it now but sure the keyboard was a pain at first.
- phoomp, on 07/23/2008, -0/+4So, there are a couple of factors when it come to muscle memory and touch typing.
Centering on F and J, as you mentioned.
But, you also need to position the rest of your fingers after centering. Try doing that without being able to feel the keys.
Try centering without being able to feel F and J keys.
I think this would be alot harder than you think. Hence the failure of all those projected keyboards a few years ago. - nickspohn, on 07/23/2008, -4/+8Then people who have no clue what tactile feedback is will complain about the vibrations and 5 minute decrease in battery life.
- lacreme, on 07/23/2008, -0/+4Or you could just, you know, use the iphone for a few days.
I was very skeptical of the keyboard at first but it's really easy to type on after you practice. - Snakedal337, on 07/23/2008, -1/+5***** stupid comment system.
- earnjam, on 07/23/2008, -0/+4I actually have a harder time on the landscape keyboard. Probably just because I never use it, but still. I don't think portrait is difficult at all.
- tripledjr, on 07/23/2008, -3/+7@highPhone: You do realise that the QWERTY keyboard was designed to slow people down when typing, original typewrites had an alphabetical layout but people would type so fast they would jam, so they moved the keys around to make it harder to type.
A valid argument would of been it doesn't have DVORAK but neither does the iPhone. - tripledjr, on 07/23/2008, -0/+4@highPhone: Re-read what I posted cause you make no sense. Unless you think you can mechanically jam electronics in which case it would explain the apple fanboyism.
A more valid example is going into a mercedes dealership and paying full price for a CLK and getting a GEO. Ill spell it out people type faster when used to alphabetical keyboards then qwerty ones. - inactive, on 07/23/2008, -2/+5Um isnt Apple now stealing from the INSTINCT and Samsung i900 ?
Samsung i900 is basically does everything the iphone cannot aside from maybe headphone jack.
If you want the actual keyboard the HTC touch pro will probably do for ya. Again having everything the iphone doesn't.
But I'm about to get buried for not saying that the iphone is the jesus phone... - MxM111, on 07/23/2008, -0/+3I thought the actual benefit of actual keys is to be able to feel them BEFORE you press it or even without pressing at all, just touching. How does vibration can emulate that?
- MxM111, on 07/23/2008, -2/+5Because they take space when you do not need them?
- maxgoedjen, on 07/23/2008, -2/+5The Wii does this same sort of thing when using it's keyboard. Don't know that it would help that significantly, but can't hurt much(as long as there's an option to disable it).
- holyreality, on 07/23/2008, -1/+4clearly, most of you haven't even used the iphone keyboard. it might be a little tricky at first but the keyboard's ability to correct and predict words is phenomenal and it quickly becomes very easy to use. and why the hell would I want some vibration feature that will a) kill my battery and b) annoy the hell out of me?
- jamdownboi, on 07/23/2008, -0/+3my thoughts exactly, its gonna drain the already poor battery life.
- Protoss, on 07/23/2008, -0/+2*****? Clever...
- earnjam, on 07/23/2008, -0/+2Definitely nothing new, and the competition has had haptic, but has the competition had haptic feedback WITH the impressive multitouch that Apple includes on the iPhone? No.
Put those two together and you've got something pretty nice in your hands. - xoineg, on 07/23/2008, -2/+4nice, another way to LOWER my battery life :(
- zephc, on 07/23/2008, -3/+5Not look at the keyboard? Aren't you looking at it (or have it very near your center of vision) when typing on it anyway? I dont know about other people, but "touch typing" on my keyboard (MBP) is done by positional muscle memory, not feeling around for the keys.
- Andrwmorph, on 07/23/2008, -0/+2Those gosh darn kids with their wireless telephones are polluting my air with sounds!
- deadmoo, on 07/23/2008, -0/+2The point isn't to run your fingers over the keys. Its to get tactile feedback that you actually pressed a key, similar to using a physical keyboard. You feel that the key was pressed.
- noreturn, on 07/23/2008, -0/+2He probably meant voice dialing. No phone has voice recognition texting because it's a ***** stupid idea, as you pointed out.
- Goallie11, on 07/23/2008, -1/+3I downloaded but it doesn't work on firmware version 2.0 yet. I think it would be pretty cool, but unnecessary, I find typing on the iPhone quite easy.
- phoomp, on 07/23/2008, -0/+2By overlaying clear nubs onto the screen, you will be adversely affecting every use *other* than keyboard, thus defeating the purpose of using a touch screen for text entry.
- shank2001, on 07/24/2008, -0/+2Funny enough, he was right. Despite it being hard at first, now I can type amazingly fast on it. You just have to learn to trust the auto-correction and practice a bit.
- diggdiggerid, on 07/23/2008, -0/+2ugh, so instead of people quietly tapping keys next to you in the bus or train they'd be talking instead. and the worst part is text messages are usually worse in terms of content than when people actually care enough to talk about something in person.
- cmorriss, on 07/23/2008, -1/+3I honestly don't see why this is needed. I just got my first iphone a few days ago. I can type faster on it than I ever could on my TREO 650 or even my AT&T Tilt. The big advantage is that you don't have to press in on the button. A light tough is all that is needed. That coupled with the auto correction makes for VERY fast data entry. People who get all bent out of shape about tactile feedback clearly don't own an iphone.
- ryleyleckie, on 07/23/2008, -2/+4should be able to use two hands right away, like blackberry. what would really help is if the keyboard would rotate to landscape like safari.
- apotropaic, on 07/23/2008, -0/+2Yea not only does the instinct do this but so does the glyde and voyager. So saying "Researchers are using tiny vibrations ..." means they are looking at other phones that do it. There's some great research for ya.
- jmon3028, on 07/23/2008, -1/+2Why not just have actual buttons?
- joelav22, on 07/23/2008, -0/+1I am no apple fan boy and do not own an iphone (no plans to get one any time soon either), but a lot of my coworkers have them. After about 10 minutes playing with it I could type as fast as I could with my Q9M (probably the best smartphone keyboard I have ever used). It is surprisingly accurate and I leaned to just trust my instincts as to where I thought the keys were. All of the doubters and haters need to spend some time with the iphone's keyboard before they bash it as useless.
- Elranzer, on 07/24/2008, -1/+2Because Steve Jobs hates buttons (especially the right-mouse button).
- sakuraz, on 07/24/2008, -0/+1This is downright idiotic.
My laptop keyboard doesn't vibrate every time I put my fingers on it.
And vibrating doesn't tell me which letter I am pressing.
Wii implemented haptic feedback to its controls, and it works.
But this is a totally different environment.
Haptic works with Wii because while pointing the controller at the screen, my hand is not pushing against anything, making my hand prone to drift, and move around.
Our hands are ALWAYS on the phone when we're typing.
Our thumbs do not drift.
What they really need is to create grooves on the screen.
I can't foresee any other improvements that'll help with the iPhone's keyboard otherwise. - Cygnus666, on 07/24/2008, -0/+1thats the first thing that came to my mind!! It will take more battery power to keep that little motor constantly vibrating! especially if your a habitual texter like myself. But I like the concept.
- jackieboy37, on 07/23/2008, -0/+1Apple needs to buy the rights to the shape-typing used in the WritingPad app by ShapeWriter and at least have it as an option for the iPhone keyboard.
- zephc, on 07/23/2008, -1/+2Sorry that i have to spell it out explicitly for you: the keys on a MBP have a very small push distance, as opposed to most desktop and PC laptop keyboards which now feel awkward and clunky to me. About the only feedback I get from it is occasionally centering my index fingers on the F and J key nubs, but most of my typing accuracy comes from being used to placing my wrists in certain spots on it relative to how the machine is positioned in front of me. As such, I rely almost exclusively on hand and wrist muscle memory, rather than feeling a key depress. I suspect I, and most other people, could do just as well if computer keyboards were LCD screens.
- Thoku, on 07/23/2008, -1/+2Even the normal iPhone keyboard is far superior than the Windows Mobile one.
- inactive, on 07/23/2008, -1/+2looks like Apple is coming up with a new line of " iVibrators"
- ionblue, on 07/23/2008, -1/+2i tried it out and it really wasnt that great, I couldnt see myself touch typing any better than when I try to do it now
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