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- Wisgary, on 10/12/2007, -7/+124Yeah, I sure do hate a format that lets me ACTUALLY SELECT A POINT IN TIME IN THE VIDEO WITHOUT PROBLEMS, EVEN WHEN NOT YET LOADED, UNLIKE YOUTUBE.
- Cytranic, on 10/12/2007, -17/+133Will it blend?
- ZorboMan, on 10/12/2007, -22/+135How can you hate Google video? The video technology is far superior to YouTube's. YouTube does have better content and really nice profile options, though.
- macgabriel87, on 10/12/2007, -18/+87i love the zune but i find it difficult to put it through my garbage disposal, its too big to fit in.
- zip22, on 10/12/2007, -3/+58you're just jealous because you can't find anyone to squirt.
- fanboydcs, on 10/12/2007, -4/+54wow that was awesome, I love leo.. He scared me a couple times! :-)
- jj00, on 10/12/2007, -7/+50Link to Google Video: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6955826509104949255&q=leo+zune
- garyc83, on 10/12/2007, -3/+36I can't get over the fact that MS pays Universal for the hardware itself.
Too bad, looks like Zune is missing some common sense relative to its features. - ubergmr, on 10/12/2007, -5/+32The link to the youtube video would of made a reasonable comment, there was no need to submit a new story
- strikerK, on 10/12/2007, -6/+32holy heck of a hockey stick
- IceDog, on 10/12/2007, -7/+33Yea, I like Leo too, but he seemed almost out of control at times there. I hadn't seem him that worked up before. Little over the top there. He's still ok in my book and I was never going to buy this anyway. Not a MP3 player type person.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+27Thats what everyone is missing, including those ppl who think that Leo is bashing the Zune.
Hes not! Hes bashing (and rightfully so) the DRM limitations which have effectively crippled the player.
Go back to before this little rant, and you'll come across MANY instances of Leo actually praising the hardware. What isn't good is the DRM that has crippled the wifi aspect and the stupid point system the zune marketplace store uses.
Get rid of those 2 things, or make them as transparent as the competition (you know who I mean) and you have a very good product
I'm sure MS would have loved to release it with unfettered wifi (so you could sync etc) and without the 3-play system (or limit it to only zune marketplace songs) but I think they basically had to bend over for the music labels or say 'goodbye' to a whole heap of content!
Its just unfortunate that by bending over and taking it cold and deep, they also bent over their customers by proxy as well :(
When it comes down to it, thats really the only negative thing about the Zune, and was probably something MS didn't have complete control over.
Having said that, I have no plans to buy one. My cheapass little 2Gb $60 player from china does everything I need an MP3/4 player to do.
AS for the click wheel thing, well since apple has trademarked/patented it NOBODY can legally use it! - readme, on 10/12/2007, -5/+28I'm glad Leo took a stand on this. He was flip-flopping on TWIT and Windows Weekly between supporting and canning it outright. The Zune Reviewer's agreement was the first thing that pissed him off, then the Universal payola. On Windows Weekly Paul Thurrott tried to brainwash him with the "multi-year strategy" angle that Microsoft fanboys are using to defend the Zune.
Looks like in the end he saw the Zune for what it is. A me-too device with crippled WiFi. It's good a public figure like Leo is telling people not to buy it. RIAA kickbacks set a bad precedent for the entire industry. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -3/+26I want my brown Zune to have the squirts
- JorgeGonzalez, on 10/12/2007, -7/+30I bought a Zune last night for my father as a Christmas present and I've been loading the ***** out of it with music and movies. I own an iPod myself and if I had to start over, I'd go with the Zune. Leo kinda spells it out at the beginning; hardware-wise, it blows away the iPod video. The only thing the iPod has is a slimmer body. The interface blows away the iPod. I didn't understand Leo's "18 clicks" complaint because it's not like the iPod is any better.
Leo's complaints are with Microsoft's backdoor shenanigans, not the device itself. If you know what you're doing when it comes to downloading music and videos, a Zune is the best choice in my opinion. - RevoltPuppy, on 10/12/2007, -1/+23It's strange to see him in the ranting role of John C. Dvorak. I'm glad to see this, because he always seemed kinda wishy-washy on the topic when it came up on TWiT.
- OBKenobi, on 10/12/2007, -1/+23Steve Ballmer is a very disturbing individual.
- SwabTheDeck, on 10/12/2007, -5/+22The Zune must really be as bad as he's saying for him to get so uncharacteristically worked up about it. One of my friends at work bought one and since then hasn't mentioned it at all. Another one encouraged his mother to buy one for his brother and I asked him if he hated his brother. His response was, "No, but Steve Jobs is a communist." The irony of his statement is that he's Chinese. Clearly, the Zune causes unpredictable behavior in people who otherwise behave normally. Is this a bug or a feature?
- metalhead3767, on 10/12/2007, -5/+21yea well, the hardware is nice because Toshiba made it. If Microsoft could only figure out how to make decent software....
- zip22, on 10/12/2007, -2/+18no, he hates it because:
-the clickwheel doesn't turn
-the wifi can't do much
-squirted tracks have drm
-microsoft pays universal.
the ipod does not have those issues. - OBKenobi, on 10/12/2007, -2/+17JeffH, you really ought to ditch that MS Office logo from your avatar. It makes you look a bit obsessive.
- hexix, on 10/12/2007, -5/+20Huh? Did you listen to the video. Everyone critical of the zune has very good reasons.
1.) One of the most-advertised features is WiFi, but all you can do with it is let it wrap your music in DRM and give it to someone else. Don't put WiFi as a spec if your users can't actually use it as they do with other WiFi products.
2.) Money goes to Universal, regardless of whether you already paid Universal for the music you own (or you don't and will not own Universal music). That's insane, and people should not support it.
Microsoft will probably fix these things and then people will complain that Leo was paid by Microsoft because he likes it. - bigtrouble77, on 10/12/2007, -13/+25That was a friggin' brilliant review.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+11No, what's lame is what Leo already mentioned..that Microsoft started with a decent little me-too player but after the committees got done with it, it was so crippled it never should have been released. Squirted songs time out in 3 plays or 3 days? WTF? What if I just squirted someone a podcast that's freely available on the web? ***** DRM, don't buy any products this crippled. Send the message.
- chazsmith, on 10/12/2007, -2/+13Since when does disliking one story source allow you to post a duplicate?
- kfconme, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9Just hope Zune doesn't squirt any viruses.
- OBKenobi, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10That's not a problem, because no one is buying it.
- Agret, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9@geekee
The iPod doesn't have wi-fi, you must be thinking of some cheap imitation iPod. - SilentSpyder, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8There's this podcast called inDigital.
- peregrine, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8Leo seriously needs to be on more tv. I miss the guy.
- macedes, on 10/12/2007, -4/+10muhahaha that was funny ;)
- mark_in_bc, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6I think he's looking for an invite to Cranky Geeks.
- cavicster, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5That slogan makes me feel embarrassed for them. Really bad idea.
- commandar!, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5@chicken101
No. It has far more to do with the fact that the player only spins up the drive to cache songs to RAM, then stops the drive and parks the head away from the platter.
This means that the head is over the platter only for a few seconds every few songs, minimizing the chance of shock causing impact. - Optimus, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6Your mother wears combat boots!
- laserone, on 10/12/2007, -6/+11I totally LOVE Leo. And this rant is hillarious. :)
- TheZorch, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Oh please, oh please, oh please let the Zune spell the death of DRM and the RIAA's *****.
That would be my favoritest Christmas present of all time.
I hope and pray it happens because this crap has gone way too far already. - SgtCrispy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Preach it brotha! Nice to see Leo speak his mind.
- imagine, on 10/12/2007, -3/+7...and for every overpriced song you buy off itunes, Apple pays the record companies how much? Even if I took a wild guess, the percentage would be more than 5x what Microsoft is paying Universal.
How does that somehow make Apple different? Because they pay MORE they are LESS supporting of DRM than microsoft? - wvdavis, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6That wasn't Leo... That was Sam Kinison impersonating Leo.
edit: I loved the Tech TV Sweater. - chicken101, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4The ad campaign was centered around the slogan "Welcome to the social".
- kfconme, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4I'm sorry, but there wouldn't be a Zune if Apple hadn't made iPod. Napster made Mp3 a household name, iPod made Mp3 Player a household name, that's the reality of it. Microsoft just thinks they have a chance in beating them at their own game, Apple's iPod is the leader, whether you or M$ likes it or not.
And you are wrong with the licensing agreement. the iTunes store is in the top 5 Music/Media sales on the web, all of Apples licensing parties aren't getting NEARLY as much as Universal will be getting from M$. It has been quoted at $1 peer device. And the reason being is due to Zune not having a music store... and it having zero popularity.
look before you speak. http://aapl.bloggingstocks.com/2006/12/11/report-no-many-ipod-owners-use-itunes-store/ - imagine, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5They didn't 'revolutionize' anything. Other companies have (and did already have when the ipod first came out) superior products. All they did was give it a prettier face, so little girls could beg their mothers to buy it.
But apple did revolutionize one thing... adding little features every 6 months, making it seem like a HUGE revolution!
They make it seem like they are making superior products, and "not" paying the record labels licensing fees, when really, they ARE, they just call it 'wholesale' music buying. They still pay licensing fees, they just have it all on one bill. - TenebrousX, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3"well, it is a microsoft product..."
are you saying Microsoft makes software that is difficult to hack? - persecuted, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Leo, for the love of god and all that is holy, please just swear! We all can tell you want to! Just do it!! Please!! Yes... you do have 12 year old fans! But they have heard it before!! Please Leo, just let it out. You will feel better after you do.
- jmann, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I think I'll just wait 'til they have a product that is a PDA/cell phone/MP3 player/calendar/USB stick/etc that is as convenient and simple to use as the Ipod.
- JPresEFnet, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4This just reminded me of something, Leo LaPort MADE TechTV the great network it once was. ***** YOU G4!
- MeThePeople, on 10/12/2007, -3/+6i dont get why the zune is always compared to the ipod, like the ipod is the definitive mp3 player that all others should copy just not to much or youl get sued. who would use the fm radio on a mp3 he ask? i dont know maybe someone who dosent want to carry 2 device to listen to music. why dosent the button spin? i don't know maybe cause its not an ipod. why is the wifi restricted to sharing mp3s? because who the hell would surf the web on a mp3 player with no keyboard. why is shared music have use restrictions? well hes complaining that some of the proceeds go to universal, well imagine if everyone was just walking down the street handing out pirated music. Microsoft would be sued into the ground. the facts are its an mp3 player, it has a screen, plays music, it does the job it was meant to do plus some. he has no real reason why the zune is a bad player, hes a ipod fanboy. and before someone says well your a zune fanboy i dont own a zune or ipod. i have used both and yes even the great and mighty ipod has its flaws.
- genconkeeper, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Leo dude take a ritalin.
- gotamd, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Digg has a video section now...
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