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- davdav, on 10/12/2007, -0/+11Why would you call someone from iTunes?
There is enough cross-pollination going on with the applications. (Movies in iTunes or video clips in iPhoto, Syncing photos to iPods in iTunes rather than iPhoto, iPods not syncing in iSync, etc.) - gmillerd, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6With iChat supporting Jabber/XMPP and iChat using SIP components already. Its not a stretch to assume that it would be very interporable.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5"Apple fan boys to the rescue!"
Uh, excuse me? You asked a dumb question, and I gave you the dumb answer. There's nothing inherently wrong with bundling closed programs. However, when you're recognized as a legal monopoly, the rules shift a bit. But, by all means, ignore the obvious and continue calling me a fanboy, you ***** *****.
"where's the history of apple adopting, and sticking to open standards?"
Safari is very compatible with open standards. The iChat client supports open standards. OS X's entire networking framework supports open standards. H.264 video? Open standard. Obviously, Apple has tons of proprietary stuff, but you're also ignoring the obvious.
Maybe if some of you dudes spent a little more time researching and a little less time calling people fanboys and spouting out *****, we could have a more civil conversation. Until that time, suck my ***** *****. - wastern, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6it sends voice over an internet protocol, how is that not voip?
it doesn't have computer to phone service yet. skype didn't have that when it first came out either - flump, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Skype is closed technology though, it doesn't use the SIP standard - so you can't call anyone with it.
- gunnmjk, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3iChat already has the ability to do voice AND video chats with anybody using the windows AIM client. So the ability to "call" mac AND non-mac computers is already available. The important thing here is that this new feature will supposedly allow you to call phones.
- picaman, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Is it just a coincidence that the Digg story about creating your own fake Leopard screenshots (http://digg.com/apple/Create_your_own_fake_Leopard_screenshots!) uses this added feature as an example?
I wonder if Dustin MacDonald is the source for AppleInsider ; ) - chesterton, on 10/12/2007, -6/+7More importantly, will you be able to call non-Mac computers, or will this be Mac only? It's one thing to be able to talk to Mac users, which I like with iChat, but the value of something like Skype is that I can just talk to anyone.
It would make more sense to integrate VoIP functionality into iTunes for the ability to talk to anyone. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -4/+5"If Microsoft does it they are "not playing fair" but if Apple does it it is good?"
Microsoft controls 90% of the desktops on the planet. Apple? What is it again? 3%? That's why there's a double standard. If you can't understand why, then you're beyond hope. - Aero1, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2when is leopard coming out? i want to get a macbook but rather wait.
- Bhima, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2All I have to say is that I truly hope that someone comes up with a skype-in competitor. I've used Skype for a long time and while it's better than it was, and generally worth the money... their Mac support sucks.
Also I'd love to get another skype-in number for here in Austria - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3How so? I can't think of too many operating systems with built-in VoIP capabilities.
- rocketpocket, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1would it be free or dot mac users only?
- Jugalator, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Hmm, speaking of this, it's surprising that MS didn't add this to Vista, when its release is quite appropriate as VoIP is getting popular. Strange.
- drunkenoaf, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Perhaps you can call land-lines and mobile phones with it...?
- IQ70, on 10/12/2007, -3/+4Just wait till Apple is >20% of the PC market. They will open themselves up for antitrust cases too.
- chadu, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2it most likely won't acutally be released until at least January, maybe next Spring according to all the Mac rumors sites.
- skidooer, on 10/12/2007, -3/+3Historically, if Microsoft were doing it they would only half-implement the standard and implement features not included in the standard, so that it's not entirely interoperable with the competition, forcing others to use Windows and their software in order to communicate with other users of the software.
Historically, Apple will follow the standards as close as possible and it won't matter what system your friends are using.
And that is why there is a problem with Microsoft bundling it, and not Apple. - jrbrewin, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1i guess you go read up on what VOIP, other than the acronym definition.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voip - Z_Man, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2that's not really voip in a sence like skype or the gizmo project is.
- jrbrewin, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1the best bet is to build the platform to plug in VOIP services from any platform, and give the user the choice about which operator to use - in much the same way integrated search does in ie7. by default it would use apple's preferred supplier, or even their own, but allow the user to easily select from a list of other industry leaders.
that would be ideal, but apple have a long way to go before being as open, and as ideal as we'd like on many fronts, but here's wishing. - sophiaperennis, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1This is great! Let us hope that the VOIP application is better than iChat.
- nbnz, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1It will be previewed at WWDC in August, when they will probably announce the release date.
- wastern, on 10/12/2007, -4/+2because every other OS on the market already has this feature integrated into it? how are they late to the party.
it would just take a tweak to iChat. I've been doing voice chats with it for years now.
i hate that the keynote is still month off and the rumor mill is already starting to kick out a few new ones every couple days. i think digg needs a separate category called "leopard rumors". they are going to get old quick - jrbrewin, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1where's the history of apple adopting, and sticking to open standards? for everyone you can point out there's at least one of them taking a standard, adopting it, modifying it, and calling it their own - in exactly the same way you claim microsoft does. A changed standard is not a standard.
- jrbrewin, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1then apple will probably utilise a similar strategy; all their technologies are closed.
- bradbeattie, on 10/12/2007, -4/+2Strictly speaking, this is already integrated into iChat.
- jrbrewin, on 10/12/2007, -4/+1the rumour on the streets is that steve jobs is going to upgrade his wardrobe, to iClothes 2.0...
- RBasil, on 10/12/2007, -9/+4"Microsoft controls 90% of the desktops on the planet. Apple? What is it again? 3%? That's why there's a double standard. If you can't understand why, then you're beyond hope."
Apple fan boys to the rescue! - RBasil, on 10/12/2007, -9/+4If Microsoft does it they are "not playing fair" but if Apple does it it is good?
- Jarda, on 10/12/2007, -12/+4Apple once again late to the party
- Mirag3, on 10/12/2007, -13/+2But can you call 911? And hope they don't get sued by Vonage, AT&T, etc. :/
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