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- xoineg, on 10/10/2007, -0/+64They can just update the iphone and ipod touch to support the 3rd part apps and create a few new ones themselves.
- bromac, on 10/10/2007, -5/+60So, instead of convergence, we now how THREE different versions of pretty much the same device?
Way to miss the point of an all-in-one device, Apple. - jdm7, on 10/10/2007, -1/+40Hopefully it'll have copy and paste functionality.
- BigGrant, on 10/10/2007, -3/+39Isn't this what the iPod touch / iPhone does?
- chawkie, on 10/10/2007, -6/+33Eat up Martha
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -1/+21screw Newton 2.0, give me a Macbook Tablet so I don't have to lust after the 21" Wacom.
- sickrubik, on 10/10/2007, -0/+17Why the hell not just build it into the iPhone? Now we'll have the iPhone, iTouch iPod, iNewton.... seriously, too much.
- habbofresh, on 10/10/2007, -2/+18They can extend their reach into the PDA market by adding Numbers, copy and paste and some goddamn file management on the iPhone or Touch. ***** carrying around another device, i thought one of the main selling points of the iPhone was to NOT carry around so much *****.
- TheZorch, on 10/10/2007, -3/+15This is great, the Apple Newton was one of the greatest PDAs ever made.
- minivanmegafun, on 10/10/2007, -5/+17lol. Not a snowball's chance in hell this is real. The PDA market is LOOOOOOONG dead.
- natenovs, on 10/10/2007, -0/+8yeh. now i would have to carry three devices. a phone, an ipod big enough for my collection, and a newton for a pda. i thought apple was trying to integrate, not separate.
- danielrh9, on 10/10/2007, -3/+11Watch out. They'll be resurrecting the Pippin next.
- bromac, on 10/10/2007, -1/+7Yeah, UMPC's are too small to be a laptop and too big to fit in your pocket.
PDA isn't dead, it just lost it's name in the merger with the cell phone. - Angostura, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6If so, why are so many people clamouring to have E-mail and Calendar input on their iPod Touches?
- mynameisjesse, on 10/10/2007, -3/+9The PDA is "dead" because it hasn't evolved in a very long time.
- directive0, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6Thats just it, the old paradigm of a PDA doesn't work. However installing PIM function on devices that are already integrated into our daily lives like cell phones and media players is genuis! This is why them crippling the iPod touch and closing mini OS X to third party developers boggles my mind!
- GregR, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5He also said that video on the iPod would never fly.
- michaelGregoire, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5Not at all... it seems dead because of a lack of innovation in the PDA market. Palm's OS has needed a major overhaul for years and all their "competition" is just as bad. There's still a demand for a modern PDA.
- slayerab, on 10/10/2007, -2/+7If they put a text editor on the ipod touch, wouldn't it serve the same functionality of a pda?
- directive0, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4Ha! Apple console. That'd be awesome! Launch titles would be all the best Mac games, redone! Marathon: Parabola, Escape from Zork, Radical Castle 2, Myst 10, Danger Inc. 3, and so on.
- serpicolugnut, on 10/10/2007, -2/+6Yeah, right. Apple already has its modern day version of the Newton - it's called the iPhone, have you heard of it? The Newton was a handheld device, slightly larger than a phone. What this rumor predicts is more akin to small form factor subnotebook with touch screen abilities. I don't think that product is too far fetched, but it would be more of a Mac than a PDA.
- CraigJ, on 10/10/2007, -2/+6Well, you got the buried for stupid part right.
- izzajoker, on 10/10/2007, -2/+6No where in this article does it quote Jobs as saying that this is still in development. The way I read it, he is proud that they DIDN'T ship it.
- zydeco, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4Man, did my browser just jump to Yahoo Finance?
- sremick, on 10/10/2007, -1/+5Far from it, actually. Of course, it's a common Digg user trait to base the entire "market" on that single user's preferences.
No one's making you use a PDA if you prefer to not do so or would rather have it in a smartphone. However, don't claim to preach the market to the tons of us who DO use PDAs every day. - TheZorch, on 10/10/2007, -1/+5Its better than being a Microsoft Zombie.
- PointAndClick, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4It's what they should do. That's the only reason I was excited about the iPod touch. I already have a 30g video, I'm not going to buy it for a different screen. I want to take it to class and write down my assignments without needing two separate devices.
The only reasoning I keep seeing is that "it's a media player, not a pda". I thought Apple was all about innovation.... that mindset seems to be a step backwards.
/rant - Avian00, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4I'm glad I wasn't the only one remember the Simpson's reference! That was great!
- crackedplastic, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4Yeah, Digg's been truncating URLs lately. Hopefully this will be relieved when the new (old) comments system comes in.
- cleverboy, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4Steve Jobs himself already CONDEMNED the PDA. In a New York Times article that heralded the first mentions of the iPhone (many many years ago), Jobs said that PDAs would go extinct, and that phones were the way to go. To come back and say PDAs rock, would be a bit silly. --However, that said... the new iPod Touch is certainly something of a question mark. Apple seems hard pressed to distinguish its feature-set from where the iPhone is going... and to justify any split in that direction.
- macslut, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3Apple's PDA is the iPhone, no doubt about it. It's what the Newton would've become. But...
I do believe that there's a market for a UMPC that Apple could come up with, and that's what this sounds like. - diggAddict, on 10/10/2007, -2/+5I used the first Newton back in the 90's when I worked in an Australian collaborative research lab working with Bell Labs on advanced shared electronic Apple-backed rear projection whiteboards.
It was a fun toy at the time. But this new one has more promise.
For the first time ever - I am considering buying a Mac!!!!
This could be the lightweight tablet device with wireless that Ihave been waiting for - cool.
Cant wait to see it. This could be the new IPOD style device if they put WIMAX/GSM Data/ and WIFI in it so its truly mobile! - systemghost, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3Sure, makes complete and total sense... I mean seriously, output comes before input, right?
- DeFex, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3but you can only play apples own games on it and the warranty is void if you try a third party one.
- thebigmatay, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3Wait... AppleTV still exists?
- Yuusharo, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3I don't buy this story. The fact is people don't want PDAs, they want their cell phones to act like PDAs. The only reason Palm is still in business is because of the smart phone market. What we're going to see next year is a second-generation iPhone with true PDA functionality, including third-party apps, while still keeping the interface clean and slick for users who like the phone the way it is.
Newton is dead. Just the name alone wouldn't get through Jobs' approval. Newton sounds too much like a 1980s product. - crackedplastic, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3Exactly. Just slap the "add events" functionality to the calendar (instead of making it handicapped), and the iPod Touch becomes a PDA.
A separate PDA device from Apple seems needless at this time, unless it's the rumored ultraslim MBP. - insomniac8400, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3There you have it, the reason they don't want 3rd party apps on the iphone.
- llsethj, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3I kinda think this is just speculation.
- grapesofbaath, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2I agree it sounds implausible, but it would explain why the iPhone is so crippled compared to the other smartphones on the market.
- geminitojanus, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2No. The iPhone/Touch is the new Apple PDA. This device would sit between laptops and the PDA, think UMPC. Could very well explain the reason for the price slashing in the iPhone arena.
- sremick, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Maybe you don't, but countless other people do. HP keeps coming out with new models. Too bad Palm is dragging it's ass, they used to own the market. Plenty of Palm users are STILL waiting on Palm to make a decent new non-smartphone PDA.
- bromac, on 10/10/2007, -1/+3They want to sell more hardware, I get it.
I'm talking about convergence. All in one data devices that do PDA, phone (conventional and/or voip), wifi, and still be a decent media player. Being a decent media player means having enough storage to make playing videos on that nice widescreen viable. It's like there's an inch away from the finish line, damn it! - norman619, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2What about the iGotGame console?
- centerblack, on 10/10/2007, -1/+3AppleInsider making up headlines for ad revenue.
- centerblack, on 10/10/2007, -2/+4 I talked to Steve Jobs three months ago. His words were "Less than 10% of users want to put data into a device, they want to get information out of it".
- bjbollinger, on 10/10/2007, -4/+6it seems silly that apple would further confuse things by adding a 3rd handheld with itouch...I'd rather them just stick to improving the iphone or the ipod touch, giving it more PDA-like functionality...instead of semi-bricking them in order to sell yet another device...
- basye, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Sorry fan boys, but this is hooey.
- Cyber_Akuma, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2How about a PDA phone?
- MacParrot, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2They discontinued it because in 1997-9, something had to give. Apple was losing money hand over fist and had to make some hard choices. Continue to innovate with a product that was out of touch (price-wise) with the rest of the market and watch more money go down the tubes, or cancel it and put that back into the core of what Apple's business was at the time, the Mac. Love or hate Apple, the Newton was an mazing device with many features that didn't appear in other PDAs until much later.
in 2007 and beyond, Apple is in an entirely different situation. The company has a high recognition factor for new tech gear. They have not had a money losing quarter for a number of years, the Mac is in a solid product cycle, the iPod continues to be a huge money generator, and the iPhone has the potential to not only make them a lot of money from hardware sales, but from revenue sharing from the telcoms. If not now, then when?
Apple can afford to take some chances. It seems worthless at the moment, but the AppleTV is one of those things they're doing to test the waters of different product areas. It's a solution in search of a problem. The Newton (or whatever they might call it if it even exists) is another area where they can see what the market may want. Instead of trying to shoehorn a MacBook into an even smaller package, release a touch screen PDA with a 7 to 8-inch screen, handwriting recognition, touch screen/ stylas, flip-out keyboard, whatever. Give it 32gb of flash-ram and mini-apps with office (iWork and MS Office) compatibility and see what happens. -
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