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- flowctrl, on 02/03/2009, -8/+243It's a 3-day, non-credit course for Apple's System Administrator Certification, not a "university course". C|Net now officially publishes *anything*. Buried for lameness.
- nbluth, on 02/04/2009, -5/+118Because when Utah does it, it becomes mainstream
- HelplessSEAL, on 02/04/2009, -2/+48Still doesn't beat Cal's Starcraft class
- yohnkrb, on 02/04/2009, -4/+39Just my opinion but OS deployment isn't really a Computer Science topic
- blustax, on 02/04/2009, -2/+28What the hell does OS deployment have to do with Computer Science? Nothing. As the saying goes:
"Computer Science is no more about computers than Astronomy is about telescopes."
- E. W. Dijkstra
Course should be moved to this department:
http://www.business.utah.edu/infosystems/ - effoffpunk, on 02/04/2009, -14/+38 Just digg me up if you like ham.
- tflinton, on 02/04/2009, -0/+23I'm in the masters program in CS at the University of Utah. This isn't taught by anyone in the CS department and has nothing to do with computer science. If you look at the actual webpage it's taught by a 3rd party company for "non-matriculated" or continuing education which doesn't count to a degree and is not accredited. This isn't computer science.
- tama00, on 02/04/2009, -1/+23Unix class*
which in some cases applies to Mac OSX anyways. - wesw02, on 02/04/2009, -3/+22A bit strange this is thought as part of a computer science cirruculum. My experience with computer science is that it remains as neutral as possible when it comes to OS's. The discipline is not about how to use specific technologies, but rather how to write your own.
- mikesown, on 02/04/2009, -4/+22Wait, deploying an operating system is part of computer science? I thought that was IT.....
- LiquidSpark, on 02/03/2009, -4/+18That makes sense because a class on managing OSX deployments (enterprise?) is borderline ridiculous.
- CycloneTH, on 02/04/2009, -2/+15CS majors already have to take a Linux class.
- ucbmckee, on 02/04/2009, -8/+20Is the exclamation point really necessary? Is this news exciting to... anyone? Really?
- gontech, on 02/04/2009, -2/+14"Computer Science is no more about computers than astronomy is about telescopes." -Dijkstra
This isn't computer science. It's technical support. Just because it has computers doesn't mean it's CS. - ColeChampagne, on 02/04/2009, -4/+16IF I took that along with Under Water Basket Weaving, I'd have a pretty decent GPA...
- digitalpencil, on 02/04/2009, -1/+12it could be a thread about Goats having mastered the art of twitter and there'd still be an OS war..
- Kupon3ss, on 02/04/2009, -2/+13Mac OS, now worth less credits than starcraft at your local college
- SpeedSteamBoat, on 02/04/2009, -2/+13So? Don't most schools already have Linux courses? Since when does being in a classroom make you "mainstream"? There's no doubt Apple has been doing well lately, but this article is stupid. Much adieu about nothing.
- KibibyteBrain, on 02/04/2009, -1/+11Computer Scientists would study the algorithms relevant to server systems. Software Engineers would study the design and implementation problems for software deployment systems. Neither type of scientist should be studying the use of a specific implementation of anything except as a critical case-study.(i.e. writing a paper on the pros and cons of Apple's implementations or something of the like.) Sure most CS majors have to hit the books when coding up proof of concept programs on how to use packages, but this is done on their own time for no credit. Reading documentation is not Computer Science.
- tizzleG, on 02/04/2009, -5/+14Blogging at Starbucks 101
- douggmc, on 02/04/2009, -9/+18Any legitimate CS program at any legitimate university would not be offering a course in their curriculum on system administration of ANY operating system.
You go to ITT tech (or a high school vocational program) for that. - nofx1510, on 02/04/2009, -0/+8I use a mac but shut the ***** up. I am sick and tired about people being so smung for using a mac. No one ***** cares.
- tehWyman, on 08/19/2009, -0/+8Like Mormonism!
- nmanguy, on 02/04/2009, -5/+12I thought Macs just work....
- Trucidation, on 02/04/2009, -2/+9angry macibie alert. woop woop
- chakan2, on 02/04/2009, -0/+7University of Utah...bringing liberal arts to computer science since 2009.
- inactive, on 02/04/2009, -3/+10none of the above.
- Urkel, on 02/04/2009, -1/+7But you don't understand... It's Apple... APPLE!!!! OMG!
- Hockey13, on 02/04/2009, -1/+7Depends on what OS the goat is using.
- CycloneTH, on 02/04/2009, -1/+7It's actually mandatory that you take semester-long intro to unix course at the U of U if you want to be a computer science major.
- uclaith, on 02/04/2009, -1/+7OMG my lil icons at the bottom of my screen stopped bouncing! better call sys_admin
- scottstevenson, on 02/04/2009, -1/+6Stanford actually does offer a Cocoa course:
http://www.stanford.edu/class/cs193e/ - Auzy, on 02/04/2009, -1/+6I've done a few OSX certifications, and here in aus, they are held at RMIT. Apple/Prometric does them though, not RMIT (they simply borrow a classroom, and labs for the prometric exams).
Dugg down as majorly inaccurate/deceptive. My mates Wing Chun Kong fu class borrows classrooms all the time to perform kong fu... That doesn't mean everyone knows kong fu.
Furthermore, the certifications are a bit of a joke. Entirely multiple choice, and you can redo them 16x in a week if you wish (it just comes down to money). I've seen people pass the exams who I'd say weren't even that competant. - th3wiz4rd, on 02/04/2009, -0/+5I've taken several Apple trainings over the years including most of them in that list. Notice that they're (the university) not giving college credit for these classes -- they are charging $1500.00 for a 3 day course taught by a 3rd party company (this is just like taking an apple training from any "Apple Authorized Training Center" http://training.apple.com/locations -- notice that university of utah is included here ...) This has little to do with the university other than the fact that the apple trainers are using a few of their classrooms.
- djbon2112, on 02/04/2009, -2/+7@douggmc: Um, no they don't, they look for degrees from colleges or universities. ITT tech won't get you *****.
- izolutionz, on 02/04/2009, -0/+5It's a technician's job.
- izolutionz, on 02/04/2009, -0/+5Why would you want to support more than one woman? Many women lovers I would understand, but wives.. get real.
- Dalrek, on 02/04/2009, -0/+5Maybe my CS major is failing me -I don't believe it is, but out of curiosity I ask this-, but what exactly is taught in a Unix or Linux class?
- MasterGrief, on 02/04/2009, -1/+5***** yeah, I'm getting on this boat
- Disillusion, on 02/04/2009, -1/+5They already have had OSX classes for years... it's called art. ;)
You know, because according to any art major you can't use anything else. What else is capable of photoshop?! - kihadat, on 02/04/2009, -3/+7I'm a diehard Mac user and even I thought that was really funny. Maybe it was too obvious of a joke?
- damack, on 02/04/2009, -2/+6This is interesting because compuer science is neutral when it comes to operating systems so if their making a computer science course aimed at OSX it probably means they sense a big departure in the way current operating systems and the upcoming versions of OSX operate which would correlate with some rumours. Either that or Apple paid them off lol.
- mrBitch, on 02/04/2009, -0/+4RABBIT SEASON!
- ry4nsm1th, on 02/04/2009, -2/+6I will buy anything shiny that's made by Apple.
- Dalrek, on 02/04/2009, -0/+4Talon, same with my university (GT). That's why I was really curious. The most I've learned about Linux/Unix in my CS degree is the OS design class I'm in, but everything is still taught away from specific OS's first. After a general knowledge is laid down, we'll gladly discuss what all OSs do, but it's easiest to see/learn about Linux/Unix because it's open source.
The reason I asked was because I was really curious as to what you could cover in a straight Linux/Unix class. It just seems like a waste of credit hours to spend it directly on a specific operating system instead of algorithms and whatnot relevant to all operating systems. - mwalker05, on 02/04/2009, -0/+3if anything, a university having to offer a class so that its retarded students know how to use that shiny macbook they just spent $2000 on is bad news for OS X. Isnt the selling point of the OS supposed to be ease of use? they suggest businesses looking to switch to macs should attend, but once they see how much of a pain in the ass it is to get macs and windows machines to play friendly on a network they might change their mind.
- plunderphonics, on 02/04/2009, -5/+8Give the people a Linux class.
- TommyTSquared, on 02/04/2009, -0/+3Here at Texas Tech we had an entire class on Ubuntu...
- jakobmakob, on 02/04/2009, -3/+6Fanboygasm! Seriously, is this really a big deal?
- nukeleearr, on 02/04/2009, -0/+3epic
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