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- aemaeth7, on 10/10/2007, -2/+25Vaporware, anyone?
- dansmeek, on 10/10/2007, -2/+16I really don't believe they have the software. I think the hardware hack made the headlines and these two websites tried to steal the thunder. It's not as easy to hack the iphone without the necessary hardware alterations. Or at least it may take longer to produce a workable hack. I also find it very surprising how they would manage to put together the resources to make a software hack without outside help.
meaning, all of this mod info is available for free. the guy that was working on the hardware unlock was blogging about it for months, asking for tons of help (to which he received) from the audience.
The hardware hack will also be mastered and made a little simpler. Hold your horses. When the software hack is working, it will be available for free. - edzilla, on 10/10/2007, -0/+12What's funny is they are already starting to announce the iphone for the french carrier Orange. And here, we have that little law that says that carrier have to unlock the phones, even on the sale day if you ask for it.
And they can only charge you for it the first 6 month, after 6 month, they legally _have_ to unlock it for free. - m3mn0n, on 10/10/2007, -1/+13"After all, there's no reason why everyone shouldn't be able benefit from this knowledge just because one company isn't able to sell it, right?"
Damn right. I say they make it public right now. - inactive, on 10/10/2007, -1/+11Sell the software to The Pirate Bay, have them write AT&T telling them it's legal for them to have their software in Sweden, and then release it for free for everyone to have.
Take that, bitches. - pyry, on 10/10/2007, -1/+11Finland is just like that-- cellphones must not be locked to carriers. It's kind of sick that the U.S. is like that, in comparison.
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -3/+13I want to let everyone know that I created a spaceship that harnesses zero point energy which will be able to take people on the moon for only $10. First spaceflight is scheduled for tomorrow.
UPDATE: I just received a phone call from NASA's lawyers. After bringing up alienisation issues, I will have to postpone the first spaceflight to the moon for an indefinite period of time..... - edzilla, on 10/10/2007, -1/+7Yeah, well, some countries actually protect consumer's rights.
- peestandingup, on 10/10/2007, -2/+7There is already a huge thread about this thats 2 days old.
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -3/+8Pussies
- thefirelane, on 10/10/2007, -7/+10Good, that will give you time to work on your sense of humor
- zephc, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3"evaluating what to eventually do with the software should they be legally denied the right to sell it."
Give it away?
Please? - ttllsr, on 10/10/2007, -1/+3Haha! How did I manage to overlook the irony of the Apple-AT&T pairing when the phone came out? Probably because I wasn't on Digg then...
- smacksaw, on 10/10/2007, -1/+3The fact is, we're too cheap to pay what a phone is worth, so we need a contract. We're too irresponsible with our credit to finance the phone. And lastly, we're too disloyal to stay with a carrier, but worse, they treat us so shabbily that we'd switch carriers weekly trying to not be abused. Digg me down if you must my fellow septics, but it's the truth.
- tinkafoo, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2"donate" it to bittorrent, like everyone else!
- HappyScrappy, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Just vaporware. They're covering for their own failure to have a solution.
- jonshipman, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Sadly so. but I have resolved to never buying subsidized again. Plus I hate all that branding crap on my phone. T-mobile isn't as bad as some (just ringtones, wallpaper and tzones) but it's still there.
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -4/+5Buried as inaccurate. It clearly doesn't exist so how can they possibly delay it?
- mrgreen4242, on 10/10/2007, -2/+3Engadget already tested one of the software unlockers and it worked. They haven't tested the one talked about in this article, but the other one has been verified working.
- iksnae, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1if uniquephones really has a software solution to unlock the iphone, they need to stop pussyfooting around + release the damn thing. it's annoying seeing all the BS sites trying to generate traffic from the iphone unlock craze. either ya have it or ya don't... and honestly i think the phonecalll was BS too... another way to hype sh*t up..
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1AT&T will sue the crap out of them......
- Amnesia10, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1I am waiting for the iPhone in the UK and if it is only available on the wrong network then I will have to wait until it is no longer exclusive. That might be a few years but I can wait, it will be even better by the time I get it. Though I can understand why Apple are doing this. They get a share of all revenue and as such they want to protect that income. If other networks agree to Apples terms then they will get access as well.
- cyssero, on 04/18/2009, -1/+2Here in Australia we too have the 6 month rule.. it's free after 6 months. Or if you spend about $50 on the phone in pre-paid credit, they'll unlock it.
I think it's fair to customers and businesses. After all, they are making a loss on a lot of these phones; they rely on your top-ups to make that money back. But what Apple/AT&T are doing is pretty sad, they should really unlock it for a fee and make it available to a much wider audience. - MWeather, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Here in the US, it's perfectly legal to unlock your phone. (DMCA exemption) The company doesn't have to help you, though.
- MWeather, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1If only phones were like computers and the cell networks were like the internet. Pay for your connection, send all you want. God I hope Google wins. We'll finally be able to move Aamerica into the 21st century.
- meatmcguffin, on 10/10/2007, -1/+1I don't think Apple care as this can only lead to more sales. AT&T, however, must be crapping themselves
- dansmeek, on 10/10/2007, -1/+1yeah, i saw the video. but i wont be convinced until i see the source code. they may have been hardware alterations (in hopes that they could get the software only working w/in days). regardless, that version may be true. and this version may be not. either way, the open community should have a working version available soon. so, these sites are hoping to cash in on (desperate) users who want it *NOW*.
the open mods are more aimed at creating software that can be used by even novices to shell commands. and because everything is explained so well, people just pick up where others left off.
the hardware hack was just a really quick attempt to make the first unlocked iphone (excluding modding a sim chip). it was quite a hacked up effort, but, i commend the kid, at 17 for pulling that off. it's a great thing to have on his resume at that age. - rfhayes, on 10/10/2007, -0/+0The DMCA does not apply to unlocking cell phones (at least through 2009).
Whatever legal mechanism that ATT&T and/or Apple use to try to stifle these guys, it WON"T be the DMCA. Late last year the Librarian of Congress made a specific exemption to the DMCA for removing carrier-locks on cell phones. Here's the copyright office page on the exemptions to the DMCA put in place last year:
http://www.copyright.gov/1201/ - misbehavior, on 10/10/2007, -2/+01. Apple isn't even the one threatening legal action in this story.
2. You need to learn what "monopoly" and "strongarming" actually mean.
3. "they have complete exclusivity to any software for their PCs" - makes no sense. - llsethj, on 10/10/2007, -5/+3Apple was founded on the ill-gotten money from phone phreaking - now they want to sue the modern day equivalent. Absurd!
http://9to5mac.com/steve-jobs-hacks-phones-234556455 - hillie, on 10/10/2007, -3/+0I don't believe this is true. Geohot said that what he did is perfectly legal. I know for a FACT it's the law that carriers MUST give you the unlock code for your phone if you ask for it. There it is. IF you ask for it. They don't advertise the existance of an unlock code or that they can give it to you.
I don't see what Geohot did as being any different. He may have had to hack hardware but he still "unlocked the phone." which is legal. It's different from say, modifying your PS2 to play backup copies. That promotes software piracy. There is no piracy here because the customer bought the phone fair and square from the maker.
Do you think that Geohot just slipped under Apple's radar? No, I bet there's people at Apple that have known about him since the get go. How interesting that these people get a phone call from Apple's lawyers "in the middle of the night" and they don't really detail what happened.
This is a hoax that probably was perpetrated by Engadget themselves. You see that Engadget was the only site who wrote about them, and I know that Engadget has lied on several occasions about crap, and they've also apparently tried to "steal the thunder" from other sources as well, by stealing images from bengalboy.com and claiming they were the first to give the scoop on secret prototype phones etc.
Don't trust Engadget. Trust the truth. - superpixel, on 10/10/2007, -8/+1yeah, there's no keeping this down. I dunno if selling this tool is legal, but doggone it, free the Springfield 2! or something (I don't get T-Mob in my area, and AT&T service is crapola with huge dead zones, but whateva)
- lex0429, on 10/10/2007, -13/+0i understand that ATT probably kicked in alot of money towards the development cost of the iphone and they deserve to reep all the benefits but you would think Apple would want to open this up to T-Mobile and maybe other carriers if they can make it CDMA compatible. They should of done what they usually do, give exclusive rights to a carrier for 6 months or so then distribute it to all carriers...As for the "unlock hack", release it to the world and deny deny deny
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