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- flag564, on 10/12/2007, -11/+63You have to wonder why?
MS bashing and in the Apple category = front page in 30 minutes or less or it's free. - soogy, on 10/12/2007, -8/+51Yes, quite the "top" Windows developer who I have never heard of.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -10/+47Buried as Inaccurate...where does it say hes a 'top' windows developer, they just use that word to cause greater ms bashing, not suprising since its on a Mac site...why do mac users always feel like they have to use every oppurtunity to talk ***** about ms don't you guys have anything better to do, seriously.
- SonofMaug, on 10/12/2007, -3/+39I... don't get it. This guy is following what he wants to do, great. He can't do it at Microsoft, fine. But the tone of the article makes it sound like Bill Gates kicked his dog, punched his mom and threw his cat into the disposer. Jesus man, get some perspective!
I am a Mac user and I love the experience, so I'm glad he's found it too, but wow, he needs to switch to decaf. - foobarra, on 10/12/2007, -4/+37What, the paraphrased "news" article? whatever...
The link alexkehr posted should be to Pete's blog:
http://peterwright.blogspot.com/2006/09/good-bye-microsoft-pete-has-now-left.html - pupppet, on 10/12/2007, -6/+36Sorry, one guy quitting Microsoft isn't front page news.
- omghi2u2, on 10/12/2007, -11/+37I'm highly confused why Microsoft is being spoken of in plural form:
"Microsoft are the new IBM" vs "Microsoft is the new IBM"
"Microsoft don't innovate" vs "Microsoft doesn't innovate"
Is that some thing in the Microsoft employee culture? - rickcarson, on 10/12/2007, -2/+27So here's the deal.
If someone hates Microsoft, there's a good chance that they've actually used Windows. Usually for years.
If someone hates Apple, there's a good chance that they haven't actually used a Macintosh. (Or at least, not for years)
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Interestingly, it is the recent switchers who Microsoft bash the hardest. Probably because they're still upset about whatever
it was that finally did their head in (about Windows) and made them switch. You _also_ find this with people who've switched
from Windows to Linux recently.
What you don't see is the long term Mac users, the hard core fanatics who stuck with Mac through thick and thin (ie the 90s)
who haven't touched a Windows machine in a decade (if they ever have), bashing Microsoft. They don't, because they just don't
care. They often don't even have strong opinions about Microsoft, which makes them virtually unique in the IT landscape. - noahhoward, on 10/12/2007, -4/+29Ummm... buddy... not too many home users have a clue what Linux is.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -17/+41HAHAHAHAHAHA! I used to work for Accenture/Andersen Consulting and I remember when we partnered with Microsoft to form Avande too. Only the slugs went to work for Avande, definitely not our TOP personnel, and I am sure Microsoft did the same thing on their side of the table. What a ***** joke to label this guy as a "top microsoft programmer". HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
"Wright continues, "So, today I resigned my job, and completely ended my Microsoft career. I have taken a role as Director with a company at the leading edge of the “Web 2.0” curve. My team and I will write Ruby on Rails code, use Macintosh computers to do so, shun Microsoft technology completely, go to work in shorts and sandals and blast each other with nerf guns. My team is devoted to being the best it can be, to learning, to improving, to pushing boundaries. And it's not Microsoft." This quote is the best. Hey Pete, 1992 called, they want their bubble back!
Thanks for the best laugh I have had all day. Consultants. What a laugh. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -8/+31No kidding. This fanboyism... it's really irritating.
- otomo, on 10/12/2007, -6/+28omghi2u2: It is British English grammar versus American English grammar.
A corporate entity is referred to in the plural form. EG: Boeing are looking to cut costs in their Dresden facility.
Make sense? No? Learn another language like German, French, Portuguese, Russian then this will all seem trivial.
But honestly, learn British English. It pays off even for Americans. (don't look at me, my grammar is forever corrupted) - 7of7, on 10/12/2007, -7/+21So some tool changes platforms and that's suddenly a big story?
- serpico, on 10/12/2007, -8/+22Good article.
Unfortunately, most of us can't make a living off of cool technology and software from other platforms. We have clients that use Windows and we need to keep up with new Windows apps and issues. I enjoy and use all platforms but it involves a lot of my time that I wish I could spend on other things. As we get older, it gets harder to choose what is priority and we eventually need to give something up.
Trying to keep up with every technology behind every OS is time consuming. I myself working in the building industry, have Windows and Mac technologies to keep up with and it's hard for me to just pick one. Apple switching to Intel hardware does make it easier though to run both OSes on one PC. - pixelmixer, on 10/12/2007, -1/+14As much as I like Ubuntu I dont think your "1 word sums it all" approach works here my friend. Unfortunately Ubuntu isn't the answer to all of our wants and needs.
- netburnr, on 10/12/2007, -6/+18Front page in 2 minutes? Wow.
Tuesday, September 12, 2006 - 08:49 AM EST, Its not even a new story - drumnbass, on 10/12/2007, -7/+19@ elitexero -
Umm - I believe you forgot to add "in my opinion" at the end of your comment. Millions of people have an opinion of OS X which is very different to yours.
Your narrow-mindedness makes you an idiot, in my opinion. - strictnein, on 10/12/2007, -16/+25This reminds me why I had the apple section blocked to begin with. Worthless articles like this. Oh well, time to block it again.
- sirloin, on 10/12/2007, -7/+16I often spell in the queen's english but that is because i am a horrible speller
I think i gave up when i found out there was no "r" in colonel.
If google ever seems slow to you, it is probably because it is trying to figure out what the heck i was trying to search for. - ndonohue, on 10/12/2007, -3/+12Yay!!! Go Unix!!!
- Auxon, on 10/12/2007, -3/+12Inaccurate - and old news anyways. "Top Windows developer" implies that this programmer worked on Windows core code, but he was just an Avanade consultant. So was I. Big deal. I left Avanade too, for a small startup and couldn't be happier right now, and I'll still on Windows and .NET all the way.
- BlackKnight6, on 10/12/2007, -6/+14Funny how you say with Vista they will have to upgrade hardware (though if you can run XP well you don't have to upgrade to get Vista to run well, most notice improved performance, even with games; and you don't NEED a DX10 card) and have to re-educated to learn...Last I checked if they go Mac they will have to buy new hardware (and if you can build a PC or have a friend do it, which I do fro friends all the time, you save lots, I mean lots, of money on hardware compared to Mac). Then when you get your Mac, guess what, you still need to learn how it works. You act like Vista has completely changed the interface from what it normally is in XP and before, tells me you haven't even used it. So many damn anti-MS people that spout bs.
I love how people who like MS or one of their products is a mind slave and a Mac or Linux user is a free-thinking individual...gimmie a break. - Cink420, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8I can't see why this is front page...it really isn't that big of a deal...It's just another minuscule event in an ongoing argument over two separate OS's...
- hobophobe, on 10/12/2007, -4/+12"Nintendo and Sony's next generation consoles are a good example of how quickly market can follow opinion and topple what seem to be even the biggest monopolies."
The main difference is that console gaming is a consumer market whereas the OS/computer market encompasses a blurred consumer and business market.
"...Apple's presence in the market is not linear. There will be a tipping point..."
For the consumer market this is a pretty good bet. It won't be a cascade, but there will be a shift (peak around 3% in a year) for that market over the course of several years. The main facilitator that Apple can provide is financial. It will be interesting to see if they do so. They could release OSX for non-Apple hardware, but we all know they won't.
"...stealing many of the cool Apple ideas. But the media, always looking for an angle on a story, will hammer Vista for being a copycat, 6 years late..."
Unless you think that Apple is superior for being the first to implement something it's frivolous to criticize on those grounds. You indicate what matters to you is the best implementation, so stick with one standard of judgment in this area and you'll be better off. Second, it took Apple some time to perfect their OS, so again what matters is how good the product is, not when it became that good.
"The stock was $17.80. Now the stock is $32.50. Think about that. The rest of the market has been playing catch up with digg. In the next year, the same that happened to Nintendo is going to happen to Apple, At least I hope. I like apple products."
Digg and sites like it may predict a portion of the market's attitude. This is not something to bank on. Keep in mind the demographic Digg represents and what part of the OS/computer market that is. If you had written this comment about Nintendo before the Wii debuted you would have hit the nail on the head. Digg is a lot closer to the heart of the gaming market than the OS/computer market, especially when you consider that any digger that plays computer games does so on Windows (minor exceptions aside).
The home computing market will see some of the shift you discuss. Businesses are less driven by Digg, by the bundled software from Apple. They are driven by existing relationships with distributors and their experience with the products they've used. While a shift in the home market could translate to some long term, slower shifts in the business market it's still too early to tell.
@noahhoward: They may not, but they likely will learn in the coming years. If there is a shift in general consumer attitudes toward Windows linux will likely become a stepping stone for those who want something different but can't afford the Apple hardware. You can run linux on anything. Anything. - SpacedCowboy, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9@sirloin
If you think 'colonel' is bad, try 'lieutenant'... In British english, this is pronounced "leff-ten-ant". In english slang (possibly northern England, I don't know), a 'loo' is what Americans call a 'restroom'. It always amuses me that American officers are "restroom renters" (loo tenant). Given the connotations of public restrooms, it's an easy jump from "loo-tenant' to 'rentboy' :-)
@mfhughes
The reason for corporations has nothing to do with plurality, it has to do with legal process - a corporation has legal rights in and of itself, completely orthogonal to the rights of those people who comprise it. For example, a publically-traded corporation may own property, but if none of the staff were to own shares, none of the staff would own any compensatory share of that property.
We use the plural for a body of people because there is more than one person involved. You choose to treat that body of people as a single entity. Only grammar-nazis really care.
Simon. - Spanktacular, on 10/12/2007, -4/+10I've found that people in the UK refer to Microsoft, not as a singular business entity, but as a plural. Why? I really don't know.
- Dotnetsky, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6Jeesh! Good riddance. Now, back to Visual Studio 2005 on Vista and my Windows Presentation Foundation app I was working on.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6STOP THE PRESS!!! A single MS employee is now using a Mac! MICROSOFT IS DOOMED!!!1!1one!!
Marked as inaccurate for the "Top developer". That guy is a John Doe. - deviateX, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7Fishy. This article is very old and if you look at the guys blog he seems to have always been a Mac user and always a Microsoft basher. See for your self
http://peterwright.blogspot.com/2006_03_01_archive.html - noahhoward, on 10/12/2007, -5/+10I think when you are excited enough about something enough to make your career out of it, you should have every right to feel upset when it is allowed to go to hell by the people above you. The guy was working with them for years. It may not seem like a big deal to most, but it wasn't an OS, it was his life.
- codemeister, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7Who named him a "top" dev?
- Intellex, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6Since when does a random "consultant" constitute a top developer?
I like macs too, but calm down fanboys. - vintechsys, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5What horse-*****. The reason Apple is so popular is because it is a niche product. People really need to be careful what they wish for. If Apple became the bigger player we would all be running the same hardware with few choices, because if Apple could run on all hardware with developer support, you could just as well call them Microsoft. I personally don't own a Mac but would like to, ONLY because it is a niche product. I really wish people wouldn't write articles about this crap.
- Shilov, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4I thought the same thing while he babbled about shooting nerf guns in his socks. Looking at PayPerPost did little to convince me that such thoughts were misplaced.
- h2d2, on 10/12/2007, -4/+8Regardless of how this guys will pay his bills or his previous record of writing pro-Apple stuff (which really is all over his blog), I can't seem to find the reason why he's being called THE "top Windows developer". What piece of code qualifies him for this title exactly?
- ElectricGrandpa, on 10/12/2007, -3/+7Yeah, especially considering that here's an article from March where he raves about his MacBook Pro... : http://peterwright.blogspot.com/2006_03_01_archive.html
I have my doubts that this guy was EVER a Windows fan at all... This really does seem like Apple Digg mafia stuff...
If you read the comments on that article page, they all sound like mindless zealots - it's insane! - joe90210, on 10/12/2007, -7/+11OSX is unusable on anything less than 512mb
- pwrighta, on 10/12/2007, -8/+12Ummm, thanks for the comments I think. I'm not entirely sure why this got dugg either - I posted the piece up months ago and it exploded at that point in time as well.
I'm also not entirely sure why I've suddenly been labelled Top Windows Developer. Author would have been more appropriate (more than a dozen books and counting), but ho hum. My comments about Microsoft at the time I wrote this all come from my history with them as an author and speaker, and there's more to it than I dumped on the blog post. At the time it was something of a rant and I switched. Again, not entirely sure why it got dugg (again - I think it got dugg when it first went up). - phaed, on 10/12/2007, -7/+10Im a windows/ubuntu user. i've had nothing against microsoft til the day i installed vista rtm. since that day ive actually started to listed to these microsoft bashers and their complaints, and even though they sound like trolls to me, some of their arguments are starting to make sense.
i myself found vista infuriating. not the new fangled features most users are finding hard to adopt, but the continued statement vista makes to me that i am a complete utter idiot who cannot be given any power over anything on his own computer. take for example being unable to copy a file without having to click at least three confirmation buttons on three different dialogs. not to mention vista runs on my dial core system like windows95 ran on my 386. the straw that broke tha camels back however was Peter Gutman's Cost analysis of Windows Vista (http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut001/pubs/vista_cost.txt) after reading i deleted the vista partition and now i can pretty much tell u i will not use vista again except when, five years from now, some genre-defying game comes out that exclusively runs on directx10.
and so, as i used to be an avid and gleeful hater of apple and their os, now i am ACTUALLY begining to open my mind a bit and giving apple a chance,. soon i wil be creating a partition on my pc and installing osx on it just to see what its about.
my new point of view on it: it has a unix core and it sure CAN'T be as bad as vista.
tho i doubt i will ever love apple like its current fanboys do. those apple commercials with the young prick and the lies against the PC guy i will never forget. - dlsspy, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4@drumnbass
Who are these millions of people who've tried OS X and decided it was too hard for them to use? That seems somewhat contrary to my experience.
I've met plenty who didn't want to try it because they were afraid that it would be too difficult to learn when they consider the effort it took them to get to the comfort level they achieved in Windows that requires them to ask for minimal help from their friends and families. I don't have experience with people who tried OS X and had issues navigating.
I suppose this thread has a couple people who claim such people exist, but it's still contrary to my personal experience. - joe90210, on 10/12/2007, -6/+9give me a break, at no time in history has the equivalent Mac OS been more stable than the Windows counterpart, windows has been stable since NT, apple only got it right with OSX
- lysdexia, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4I use both macs and windows pc's - the lather mac users get themselves into over an os is hilarious - as if it matters to anyone but nerds, geeks and other social inadequates.
They are only computers for jings' sake! - Dadfather, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3If you want to switch to a Linux distro and make a statement about how elite you are at using computers, you should go with Gentoo at the very least. Otherwise you sound like a whiner who just wants a free knockoff of Windows.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3 I really wouldn't mind switching to OSX, but one thing that holds me back is that Windows is the standard throughout many buisnesses and for consumers. Apple is begining to take a share to in part to its simple UI and the sales of iPods may also part. Windows is dominating the market right now, like PS2 did. Nintendo and Apple have lots in common. Thats where this generation is heading. Apple and Nintendo HAVE to work together to get full potential. Mac + iPod compatible with Wii + DS. Possibilities are endless.
ANYWAYS, I would not doubt that Apple or Linux based OSes will dominate in the next 10-15 years. Why? Windows Vienna, I for one see Vienna as their downfall, because in a way it will not be Backwards compatible with Vista, XP or Fiji. This would mean that long time Windows users would have to stick with Fiji, XP or Vista to stay compatible with Buissnesses and other users and the industry standard would most likely at the time be Fiji. Apple or Linux could push in and woo Windows users to make the leap to their OSes. People would be willing to make the move because they would face the same issues upgrading to Vienna as they would switching to Apple or Linux. Either way they will probably end up buying a new computer unless they choose Linux or have a Powerful PC.
MS knows this... This is why they are implementing .docx files in Office 2007. The suite of .x files on Office 2007 will work with Vienna and the Office of the time. MS also will work their best to make sure that Apple and Linux OSes cant open .x files. - brundlefly76, on 10/12/2007, -10/+13"My team and I will write Ruby on Rails code, use Macintosh computers to do so, shun Microsoft technology completely, go to work in shorts and sandals and blast each other with nerf guns. "
Since when does any of the above require the use of a Mac?
This post sounds like a bunch of sour grapes. - steven401, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3"My team and I will write Ruby on Rails code, use Macintosh computers to do so, shun Microsoft technology completely, go to work in shorts and sandals and blast each other with nerf guns."
The part about nerf guns, with OpenGL 2.0 and not DirectX 10? - pierik, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5Are you saying that you never have heard of Accenture, or are you sarcastic?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accenture - sicapitan, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5Mac users mac users windows users etc. Sometimes you just want to create or get your work done without all the crap, that's os x. Nothing more nothing less. Windows used to be like that. Now it's not. So well, if your a person who wants to get work done, feel free to use os x.
- newbill123, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3@CrazyZ
I haven't worked for Anderson (though my sister has), but I have worked for a number of consulting teams. The rule of managing consultants is to always make them feel important. A good consultant won't stick around if they don't think they're important. If you're speaking to the group that's working with a high profile customer, they're incredibly valuable to be placed working with that customer. If you're working with a lesser known customer, you're the fellow that's going to turn these people into a new powerhouse. For the most part, it doesn't matter to the consultancy itself.
I think that perhaps you and he were told (even though you're working on different projects) "You're on an incredibly important job." and "You're one of the most valauble assets to our company."
Consultants are the best at being able to shift gears and start over. You don't want to give them the feeling they're just a cog in the machine. - deviateX, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5The Article was posted in September 2006 (3 months ago) and therefore guy is complaining about a Vista beta – this should have been made clearer.
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