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- HerrEisenheim, on 10/24/2007, -10/+149No. The tipping point was at Macworld in January '06. The tipping point was moving to Intel which cut the performance gap between Mac and PCs to zero, and cut the cost premium of owning a Mac from 25%+ to 5%+. That's what really got the Mac rolling again. Leopard is just icing the cake.
The Mac is finally recommendable. No longer do you have to say yes to, "But aren't they slower? Don't they cost more?" The answer is now no, and not really. - KSUdesigner, on 10/24/2007, -3/+64"I just cannot emphasize enough what a game-changer this could be. Every single day I connect with someone that wants to show me something or have me show them."
The new iChat does look promising, but keep in mind that this feature will most only work from one Mac to another, both running Leopard. - axle, on 10/24/2007, -8/+60The tipping point happened a long time ago when they moved to a unix based OS. Since that time, things have gotten better and better for Apple.
- MidgetMadness, on 10/24/2007, -16/+58If anything, Vista was the tipping point.
- Reaktor5, on 10/23/2007, -17/+57Leopard is the biggest reason that I'm switching over to a Mac.
- moofer, on 10/29/2007, -4/+43latest developer release... Finder is taking up 1.2% of one cpu on a quad-core system, and 22 MB of memory. That's hardly resource hungry.
- MrBlue999, on 10/24/2007, -5/+39What? No.
It's the iPhones and iPods that've drawn people to the Macs. On today's Apple investor conference call, they said over 50% of the people that buy Macs are new Mac users. Many of them know about the Mac because of the iPhone and iPod. It's well known in the investment community and they termed it the "halo effect". Leopard is just another piece of the puzzle that might facilitate the growth in market share but it's not the "tipping point".
This halo effect strategy extends overseas by first penetrating the European market with iPhones and iPods then following up with Macs. Yeah, yeah, no one bothers listening to these "useless" investor relations calls anyway. - Animal, on 10/23/2007, -12/+45I think the majority of consumers who don't know jack all about computers ask themselves basically two questions when they are buying a computer.
1. Does this do X? (X can be a single need or multiple needs)
The answer to this for a Mac is basically yes across the board except for games.
2. Is this one the cheapest?
The answer to this for a Mac is no.
So what does regular consumer decide? "I'll get that cheaper PC that does everything the Mac does and also plays games."
I'm afraid the subtleties of OS usability are lost on your basic consumer. - superalamar, on 10/29/2007, -17/+50No mention of the highly improved (an no doubt resource hungry) finder, which will wow entry level consumers as they shop.
Still, a very good article though. - aaronm67, on 10/23/2007, -4/+30How about you spend $40 on RAM and enjoy having a usable computer?
- superkendall, on 10/29/2007, -3/+28The new finder appars to be much more multi-threaded, and therefore consuming many light snacks instead of your whole system waiting for one &*($%&$%*( network drive gone sour!
- Ireland, on 10/24/2007, -16/+39I prefer the Mac @ home, Mac @ work one. Windows are to look out of, nothing more :P
- FireSlash, on 10/24/2007, -14/+36As a developer, OSX has always had me at "low memory use". With adium, xchat, firefox, and itunes all open and running, I'll burn around 250mb of ram on OSX. The same machine with the same programs on Vista is around 500mb-- Twice as much.
I blame part of the memory consumption on the fact that so many windows applications have felt the need to associate themselves with additional hidden process and services that do practically nothing but waste resources (See: Adobe speed reader). While OSX itself may not move forward very quickly, I feel it may be gaining momentum. We sell macs at my store, and sales have been taking a positive trend. People are seeing and hearing more about macs since they went apple, and bootcamp is a major selling point. Hell, we're selling macs to run XP because nothing else we sell will run it anymore! Try finding XP drivers for pre-built vista machines; not a fun task.
Apple's product changes in the next couple months will be a large factor in what happens though. If they make positive changes to their machines while considering all of their market segments, things will go well. If they ignore the new segment they're starting to build and cater toward the diehard mac fanboys only, they will simply fall back into the corner they came from. - NeoRicen, on 10/29/2007, -10/+31I've been playing the Call of Duty 4 Demo on my new iMac for days now (in XP in BootCamp), Runs VERY well, World in Conflict Runs very well, BF2 works great also. They are fine for playing games out now and coming out in a few months but long term since you can't upgrade they aren't the best.
- inactive, on 10/28/2007, -7/+26BAWWWWWWW IM 15 YEARS OLD I NEED MY PC GAMES WHICH ARE ALL THE SAME AND ALL CRAPPY AND FULL OF SPACE MARINES AND ORCS
- loneraven, on 10/24/2007, -11/+30The main reason why I refuse to consider an apple computer is the limited opportunity for upgrade. Apple is largely a laptop company, and that's great, but I don't really need a laptop. I have a laptop for work, and I honestly have no use for it outside of work.
Many people have said it before, Apple needs to release a mid-range desktop before I will even start to consider purchasing an Apple. Sure, I could buy an iMac, but then I'd be locked into the same size monitor and the same components for the life of the system. And the Mac Pros are out of the question with their huge price tag and nearly server grade parts. Granted, I'm not your typical computer consumer, I don't buy dells, gateways, or whatever; I rather build and take apart my own computers that way I have complete control over what I have in my computer.
But, with Apple, I'm pretty much locked into the same hardware configuration, and if I want to upgrade, I have to plop down another $1200+. I don't want a laptop, I don't want a dead end iMac, and I surely don't want to pay for a Mac Pro.
With all that said, I have messed with a couple of macs, and the OS is pretty stable, but it's not something I would spend a huge amount of money on. Then again, I love to solve problems should they arise on Windows or Linux... but maybe that's just me, I'm weird like that. I can also never endorse a company that forces me to constantly buy new computers everytime I want to upgrade (which is fairly often). I'm sorry, I just don't have that disposable income.
So, until then, Apple will never be a MAJOR force in the computer market, that is unless they decide to let OSX work on non apple computers, but we know that won't happen anytime soon. - enicholas, on 10/29/2007, -3/+22Have you actually used Leopard?
I'm running the latest developer seed, and as far as I'm concerned you are the one who is full of crap. Finder is indeed dramatically improved. - NanoHelix, on 10/23/2007, -1/+20Time Machine has nothing to do with keeping devices in sync. Why are they mentioned in the same paragraph?
- CJUNIT, on 10/23/2007, -16/+34I like the "Mac at home. Windows at work" mantra. Apple has definitely poised itself to take over the domestic front.
- loneraven, on 10/23/2007, -1/+19Sure, the Mac Pro uses PC components, but that's Apple's ONLY product line that has any true upgradeability, and you pay a huge premium for that.
And even then, I can't swap out the motherboard with another one. - yichen, on 10/23/2007, -3/+20Leopard is the biggest reason that I'm upgrading to a new Mac. For most of people living in Windows world, Leopard is not enough to switch.
- Shiner6, on 10/29/2007, -5/+21Yes being able to organize, find and store your files faster isn't an important part of using your computer. I assume you don't use file cabinets either?
- Spoomeister, on 10/23/2007, -23/+38Time machine = restore points.
iChat = Like a bazillion other chat clients, but only for talking to other Macs.
Parental controls = already in Windows OSes. And moderately pointless, because...
Boot camp = Acknowledgement that NO ONE SIGNIFICANT writes games for macs.
Dashcode = The flavor of the month to convince people that widgets / applets / rich web applications are the wave of the future.
BFD. - CanadaMan87, on 10/29/2007, -2/+17Call of Duty 4 and World in Conflict are "old *****"?
gtfo the internets. - slothlovechunk, on 10/24/2007, -28/+43Top two reason why apples will still be relegated to hold a minuscule pc market share:
1. You have to buy their 'cute' hardware to get their operating system.
2. Windows PCs are still cheaper, more plentiful (and because of (1) more diverse), and the differences in the operating systems do not make up the difference.
I don't care how good their operating system is. I will never buy an apple because I have almost no control over the hardware it will run on. Until the day apple sells their operating system without the hardware, they can suck my balls. - ChromaVita, on 10/26/2007, -2/+16I think he meant the screen sharing option...
- Dumbledorito, on 10/24/2007, -7/+20Just like the others, yeah.
- natenovs, on 10/23/2007, -1/+14thats what everyone is running vista on and complaining about performance.
- tracydanger, on 10/23/2007, -2/+14Leopard may be the reason you're switching to a Mac or upgrading to a new mac. For me, Leopard is simply the biggest reason I'm switching to Leopard from Tiger.
- natedouglas, on 10/23/2007, -8/+20Job's didn't say that. That was actually a quote from M. Dell... about Apple 10 years ago.
- mynameisjesse, on 10/23/2007, -1/+12I make a living off of my Mac as well, but hey whatever makes you feel better.
- craig4, on 10/23/2007, -9/+20Do you have any proof of this? I'm pretty sure your just talking out your ass, I have never had a problem with any game and am using an almost 2 year old Macbook pro.
- ramo13, on 10/29/2007, -2/+13i'll have to disagree on that, the new finder is so much slicker and faster on my mini.
- OdinEye, on 10/23/2007, -6/+16Do we have to rehash this old argument? Comparably equipped machines are comparably priced. Yes - if you want a very cheap beige or black box with windows, it will cost you less than an apple. Match them up on specs and the difference disappears.
- swoopdog, on 10/23/2007, -13/+23buried as more markoff story nonsense
"(disclaimer: I own a fair number of shares in Apple)."
well heehaw - inactive, on 10/24/2007, -6/+16Tipping point? Not until Apple starts shipping a product the masses can afford.
- enicholas, on 10/23/2007, -1/+11If you're going to troll, could you at least not be quite so stupid about it?
- dnields, on 10/23/2007, -6/+15I actually use my computer to make my living... and I use a Mac.
- salmonmoose, on 10/23/2007, -2/+11I run Vista on a 4 year old computer it's fine - invariably people who have trouble have bought budget machines and they're getting what they paid for.
- one1plus1one, on 10/23/2007, -2/+11I actually like my Windows-XP-Media Edition too much to make the switch to anything else for the moment.(Vista or Leopard just don't hold the sway for me that XP media edition does.)
However, having said that, I'm considering getting a second machine into my home, and might just make it a Mac. I wonder how many others out there like me, just might go dual at home, and have 2 machines. (That might be how the switch is made -- a gradual phasing over and accostomization of the population to Mac, rather than a "revolution of abrupt change"). - yabos, on 10/29/2007, -0/+9It comes out Nov 5 you idiot, it's brand new
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Call_of_Duty_4:_Moder ... - edicius, on 10/23/2007, -12/+20That's why people prefer consoles.
- inactive, on 10/29/2007, -2/+10This is the year of the desktop OSX!
- IndigoMoss, on 10/23/2007, -12/+20I'm a Windows user and none of those things that are mentioned in the article make me interested in purchasing a Mac. The only thing that makes me consider purchasing a Mac is their Macbook Pro line, but that's way out of my league as far as price is concerned.
- enicholas, on 10/25/2007, -3/+11Every message you've posted in this discussion is the same stupid *****. You're obviously a troll and you have obviously never actually used Leopard.
- NerveBand, on 10/23/2007, -17/+24I really want to see how Leopard performs on 512mb of ram and run Vista on the same mac just to see how they perform. It would be quite the battle, thats for sure ^_^
- terath, on 10/23/2007, -6/+13And does your Vostro have a motion sensor that halts the hard drive heads when you jar it? Does it have an integrated camera? Does it have a light sensor that dims the screen automatically when the ambient light drops? Does it have an illuminated keyboard that turns on based on the ambient light? What about a power cord that automatically breaks away if you trip on it? Does it wake from sleep and get to a usable state in 2 seconds or less? For that matter, can you leave it in sleep mode for days and not have the battery drain to zero? Is your burner a slot loader? What about the battery life? And for that matter does your battery have an external readout so you can tell its charge even when the machine is off?
And on the topic of firewire. It may be a minor irritation to you, but to musicians it can be a killer. Even for others, you're aware that a firewire external hard drive is actually much faster than USB because firewire is far better at sustained transfer rates? Now, add to that the bigger and heavier part and you can see why what you have is not equivalent to a mac book pro.
You just used the "well I don't need those things" excuse. - msc20, on 10/23/2007, -1/+8ahahaha.. my Thumbs up of the year! Great response senor!!!
- Kazbaeden, on 10/23/2007, -11/+18http://usa.autodesk.com/adsk/servlet/index?siteID= ...
"The 32-bit version of Autodesk® 3ds Max® 2008 software is supported on any of the following operating systems:
Microsoft® Windows Vista™
Microsoft® Windows® XP Professional (SP2 or higher)
The 64-bit version of 3ds Max 2008 software is supported on any of the following operating systems:
Microsoft Windows Vista
Microsoft Windows XP Professional x64"
"Note: Apple® computers based on Intel processors and running Microsoft operating systems are not currently supported."
As far as I can tell, 3ds max does not run on OSX or Apple hardware at all. Congratulations though; you're well on your way to becoming a true apple zealot! - derrickgossman, on 10/23/2007, -2/+9It is people like you that make us Mac users look bad.
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