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- PhantomBantam, on 10/12/2007, -3/+12"The apple computer was made for stupid people to do stupid things with, easily."
I think you've proven stupidity is cross-platform. - PhantomBantam, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6They are advertising to low end users who are thinking about upgrading to Vista, just because it's new. They're not advertising to geeks, because geeks know enough about computers to choose their religion. Most windows users are not offended by the "get a mac" ads. The only people who are are those who decided "macs are teh suxxorz! F@g!" after finding out there is no counter strike for mac (sorry if thats incorrect).
- noahhoward, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5This is an ad targeted towards users who don't know what they're doing enough to know how to upgrade. It's called marketing.
- J0SHzy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4wow keyboardduder calm down it's an ad, don't get all worked up because your stuck with windows, in due time...i'm sure you'll be able to afford a mac
- noahhoward, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4"Windows runs on computers that are esily upgradable. People will go out and buy an introductory computer package for about $600. It comes with a tower, a printer, and a monitor. After you bring it home, you can add things to it. like memory, a new video card, a new heatsink. All kinds of companies make these computers and their parts"
An probably 80% of the people who buy them don't know how to upgrade them so the difference is pretty much useless. When something needs to be upgraded, they simply buy a new computer, if something breaks the pay some other company to fix it or call the neighbors kid.
Now, as for not being able to upgrade a Mac, you've proved your ignorance just like everyone else who has never touched an Apple computer but has some sort of inbred hatred for them. You can upgrade your memory, Macs use PC memory, readily available in stores. You can upgrade your hard-drives, Macs use PC harddrives. You cannot, as of yet, upgrade your processor and I think there are issues with upgrading your video card, however I have no issues at all with my current video card and I've yet to tax my dual-core processor. I honestly don't see what your issue is. If you want to be able to upgrade the few things you can't with a Mac, don't get one, why do you have to start spreading ***** about how crap Apple is?
As for legacy support, universal binaries are compatible with Intel and PPC platforms. Apple users will be able to use any Mac as long as the hardware specs meet up, which with memory upgrades would be a long time.
The iPod, well I won't go there, it's obvious that Apple raped your mother and killed your father using an iPod, why else would you spew such *****?
*nix is easier to hack than windows ha ha ha!!!! Truth is they probably aren't all that different, until you get into how quickly problems are found and fixed.
"The apple computer was made for stupid people to do stupid things with, easily. If it were up to me, mouses wouldnt even exist."
??? I'm sorry I was too stupid to understand that. Are you upset that they made things simple and convenient. Or are you implying that smart people do ***** the hard way for no good reason?
BTW My Mac helped me get my work done so fast I had time to write such a long comment to an obvious idioit. Oh well, it saves me time it doesn't help me use it. - keyboardduder, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4actually, for arguement's sake, you can play WoW on mac.
- Gatesophile, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3While I hate Apple, I think their ads are pretty good. I enjoy seeing ads that are actually entertaining (like the Mac vs. PC ones) as opposed to the more serious commercials. The thought of sending an email out to all iPod owners was a good idea.
Good marketing, not-so-good (to me) product. - Lukevesque, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Hey! I found where all the vista users are!
Hope you like your new OS.
Keep your eyes open this spring.... - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4i went and went hard these past months I've purchased two and i love my imac and macbook!
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4i used to say that to until i bought a mac!
- noahhoward, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2That is an issue for marketing to decide isn't it. Apparently plenty of people seem to feel otherwise lately.
If it was all about the prices and there was nothing you could do about it, under your logic, we'd all be driving around in Yugos or Geo Metros or some other cheap crappy car, seems to be plenty of higher end cars going around though. Wonder why that is? - noahhoward, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2You know I'm not sure why people get so pissed about Apples ads, they do the same things many other ads do on a regular basis, but people seem to think it's a horribel offense. Are you all from Boston?
- goodbyegalaxy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Why are people digging this? It contains no information at all, it's a 4-sentence advertisement.
- estvir, on 10/12/2007, -8/+10Well, since you 'probably' (More Apple lies, see http://blogs.zdnet.com/Bott/?p=126 ) have to buy a new PC for Vista why not do so ? You save money compared to getting an Apple product and you will not have as many problems/issues (Games and so on).
Way to go, Apple, still lying, spreading FUD and insulting your competitors like you have for ~15 years. - D3koy, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3It's time to get a Mac. If you're thinking of upgrading to Vista, you'll probably need a new computer*. Why not get a Mac? It's simpler**, more secure***, and way more fun****. And it works with the stuff you already have*****, like printers and cameras. So before you upgrade anything, you owe it to yourself to check out a Mac.******
*I don't need a new computer, because Vista really isn't THAT demanding...(the average consumer only gets a new OS when they buy a new PC, they don't upgrade; and those that do already have PCs that can run Vista)
**Simpler, really? Vista(like XP) has been so dumbed down that a chimp who learned from mistakes could figure it out...
***Secure, really? Yeah, Ok..I'll give you that, but only because hackers wouldn't write a code to hack 5% of a market share...
****Fun, really? Can you play Doom on a Mac? No? how about Counter-Strike, Unreal, WoW, and Battlefield? No huh? Wow, that IS more fun...
*****Works with stuff I have, really? What about my non-iPod mp3 player? No? Wow, how about my ancient Scanner and Printer? Really, It works for those? Ok, I'll believe you....
******I owe it to myself? Wow, and here from everything that you just told me it sounds like the only thing better about Mac is security...and I have really good anti-virius/spam/spyware software...Wow, I'l stick with PC thanks... - noahhoward, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Oh yeah, I forgot, your point about working with the stuff (hardware?) you have. I'm writing this using a virtual keyboard, the packaging says that it only works with Windows and certain mobile devices, however, I'm using it with my Mac, when I paired the bluetooth device, Apel told me it wasn't sure what it was and asked me what to treat it as, I told it 'keyboard', it worked fine. It also works great with my HP PSC no drives to install, nothing. I don't know how far it goes, but it seems to be doing great so far.
- GawtMilk, on 10/12/2007, -4/+5Agreed. People who've spent more than $800 or more within the last three years on a computer do not have to upgrade.
Those who've spent less than that on a new machine need more RAM.
Simple as that. The $1500 price for Apple isn't as justified as a $80 purchase of more RAM, maybe $100 on a new Video card if you want to look at Aero. Users who know what they're doing (or users who don't mind learning something new) don't have to get sucked into Apple's "Only-through-us" upgrade regime. Mac OSX? I really don't find very many faults with it. Apple's limitation and hardware monopoly on Macs? I definately care about that. I don't want to spend $1500 on a new computer every time I want more juice, yet that is exactly what Apple wants me to do... - noahhoward, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2"*I don't need a new computer, because Vista really isn't THAT demanding...(the average consumer only gets a new OS when they buy a new PC, they don't upgrade; and those that do already have PCs that can run Vista)
**Simpler, really? Vista(like XP) has been so dumbed down that a chimp who learned from mistakes could figure it out...
***Secure, really? Yeah, Ok..I'll give you that, but only because hackers wouldn't write a code to hack 5% of a market share...
****Fun, really? Can you play Doom on a Mac? No? how about Counter-Strike, Unreal, WoW, and Battlefield? No huh? Wow, that IS more fun...
*****Works with stuff I have, really? What about my non-iPod mp3 player? No? Wow, how about my ancient Scanner and Printer? Really, It works for those? Ok, I'll believe you....
******I owe it to myself? Wow, and here from everything that you just told me it sounds like the only thing better about Mac is security...and I have really good anti-virius/spam/spyware software...Wow, I'l stick with PC thanks... "
Seriously, go use a Mac, for your own sake.
Your first point: You answered it yourself, the average user thinks upgrade means go buy a new computer. This is, therfore a marketing line.
Your second point: Simpler means less steps to get things done, less searching for yor files, less input required to get output.
Examples: When I put a USB stick into my Mac, it pops up as a drive on my desktop, ready for use immediately, no window pops us asking me what I'd like to do, no interruption at all, it is just there and ready to go. When I put the same USB stick into my PC, it is hit or miss whether the computer will know I did anything, I have to click on 'My Computer' (fortunately I have that in an easy to reach place) then, I usually have to refresh (sometimes replacing the USB) then click on my drive. On the off chance it does work right away, a nice window pops up asking me what I wanted to do with that USB (perhaps I wanted it do stay where it was until I asked for it?) which is an interruption to my work flow.
Your fourth point: This should start changing sometime soon, now that games manufacturers are dealing with Intel chips than PPC chips, and now that the number of people using Apple is growing. In any event, this is more of a problem with the Software companies than Apple.
Your last point: This is more of a marketing line really. However, I personally am really happy with my switch because I have noticed how much easier it is to interact with. - cityscape, on 08/01/2008, -1/+2Have you ever used a Mac? You don't sound too bright based on your comment. All but one game you mentioned is available for the Mac platform. Most scanners like HP, Canon, Epson all work on Macs. Look at your driver CD and you will more than likely see a mac driver. As for mp3 players, why would you want a non iPod mp3 player?
Here are links to the games you were interested in on the Apple website:
Doom 3: http://www.apple.com/downloads/macosx/games/demos_updates/doom3.html
WOW: http://www.apple.com/downloads/macosx/games/demos_updates/worldofwarcraft.html
Unreal Tournament 2004: http://www.apple.com/downloads/macosx/games/demos_updates/unrealtournament2004.html
Battlefield: http://www.apple.com/downloads/macosx/games/demos_updates/battlefield1942.html - cityscape, on 08/01/2008, -2/+3I switched from Windows/Linux dual boot to Mac last year and never looked back. I enjoy many of the naive apps that are bundled with the Mac like iMovie, iDVD & iPhoto. I also love that Adobe Photoshop & Microsoft Office have Mac versions, something that always fustrated me on LINUX. Open Office is a great product but it isn't without flaws and I have been burned more times than not when someone using Word opened my Open Office file to ask the question if I was smoking crack with all the bullets and formatting jumbled to hell. Macs aren't for everyone, but after a year of using mine I would never go back to Windows or LINUX. My latest problem is that I have to use Windows at work. Now if I could only convince my company to buy me a Mac laptop when my Dell laptop lease expires.
- aussieNickuss, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I think Photoshop started out as a Mac app and was only ported because windows started to take over the marketplace.
- 35chililights, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1what if i've already switched?
does that mean i get to buy another?? because i've been thinking that 4 year old dell laptop of my wives needs to be replaced.... - NoTreason4, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2
Macs are cheaper than PCs, and have been for a bout 17 years now. Dell is in the crapper, the company is failing and revenues are down. The Mac is selling %30 more than the year ago quarter. HP/Compaq quality sucks and nobody likes them anymore. Sun is trying to turn itself around. Gateway 2000 is MIA. IBM is owned by some chinese company (IBM Pcs anyway) and Microsoft has, with Vista, just shown itself to be completely irrelevant--- 5 years and all they could come up with was poorly implemented copies of long term Apple features?
This is why all the Windows Weenies on Digg are having coniptions--- Apple is suceeding because with the ipod, people are seeing what a higher quality product they put out, and they are switching in droves. I understand it drives you guys up the wall--- but you need to understand that the real core of your frustration is all the money you wasted on overpriced PCs. I know, you spent $200 to get your bare bones starter PC and then upgraded it to the tune of $3,000 and now you STILL can't run Vista.... we both know if you'd just spent $500 on a Mac Mini in the first place, you could still run Leopard (Macs have much better backwards compatibility than Windows) and you'd have saved $2,500. I understand this really hurts.... but hear me-- now is the time to get of the cheap PC hardware treadmill-- now that you realize it costs you more and does less-- just break free. Get yourself a Mac and you'll have a lot less stress in your life. - noahhoward, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Because their marketing group figured out that humor works better than, "see we have two buttons too."
- aussieNickuss, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1"Can you play Doom on a Mac? No? how about Counter-Strike, Unreal, WoW, and Battlefield? No huh? Wow, that IS more fun" - I'm sick of the "Macs don't play games." argument. If you play games....you buy a PC. If you do anything else....buy a Mac.
"Yeah, Ok..I'll give you that, but only because hackers wouldn't write a code to hack 5% of a market share" - I'm also sick of the market share argument. Wake up to the fact that Mac OS X is so robust and secure, that its pointless a hacker even bothering to try and penitrate it. It has nothing to do with market share.
"the average consumer only gets a new OS when they buy a new PC, they don't upgrade; and those that do already have PCs that can run Vista" - I don't think Apple are targeting those that are going to go out to buy a retail box of Vista and upgrade their existing PC. They're targeting those in the market for a whole new PC.
"and I have really good anti-virius/spam/spyware software" - OK if you want to spend the extra money that you shouldn't really have to....go ahead. - D3koy, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1Can you? Ok, I'm going on old information and I know for a while you couldn't...One point for Mac Gamers, so the score is PC- 4 billion... Mac-2 (love that breakout game...)
- GawtMilk, on 10/12/2007, -5/+4Precisely, flag. By choosing to say not that Macs are better, but why Macs aren't worse, they are cutting down on the number of people the ads apply to. If they instead started saying talking about WHY Macs are better, they'll open their Ad's effectiveness. Instead they include such ***** reasons to switch to Macs, like "it takes a tech support guy to plug in your webcam".
- autoy, on 10/12/2007, -9/+8When something 90% of worldwide users have is crap there has to be someone that gives you an alternative and usually some kind of comparison has to be made. The Apple "get a mac" campaign is largely based on the idea that the PC geat to do the boring stuff, which is perfectly fine but boring. If there is something else in the market that offers you a fun way of doing things without worrying about malware or manteinance I'm glad there's someone telling me there is an alternative.
- keyboardduder, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1Dont take it TOO seriously kid, i was merely making a joke that stupid people continue to stupid things easily, as far as legacy support, i would like to see you try to run old hardware/software (system 7, 8, maybe SOME 9) on a newer mac. I used to use macs for years, i know a decent amount about them. and also for the "The apple computer was made for stupid people to do stupid things with, easily. If it were up to me, mouses wouldnt even exist." it was a joke, of couse its great things are done easier now, however i think some people dont deserve an opinion if they dont know enough. So as far as your expertise goes on your side, im glad you bought a computer for double the price of what mine costs and only does 10% of what mine can (in terms of software) :)
- TravisG5, on 10/12/2007, -5/+2Seriously Apple, stop pointing out and attacking Windows and look at what good you have. When I tell people I use a Mac, a lot of people say stuff like "Wow, that is so stupid, like using a mouse with one button... it won't even work with a real mouse." Why doesn't Apple advertise good stuff, like Spotlight (which Vista has caught up to), Exposé, and stability.
- nitewing98, on 10/12/2007, -3/+0What IS it with Apple-haters? Geez, you'd think Steve Jobs came over and keyed your car or something.
As for "comparing to the other guy"...let's see, you're the "little guy" and you want to compete with the "big guy"...doesn't it make sense to point out the flaws in the other guy's stuff to sell yours?
Now that Macs run Windows (if you want) - makes sense to try and scoop a few converts from those that may have to upgrade or buy a new computer, if you ask me. Just good marketing, not EVIL.
If Apple isn't your cup of tea, why even read this article? Go on to something you like rather than trolling and flaming. - estvir, on 10/12/2007, -5/+1noah, I assume that was an attempt to negate what we both said but it fails miserably.
Right, they don't know anything except they need to upgrade, well, than people like cheaper prices and familiar brands so they'd probably pick a Dell, AGAIN. - matt0507, on 10/12/2007, -9/+4It is not about what they did, it's how they did it. I think the approach Apple took in those ads are very funny, witty and very light hearted :)
- flag564, on 10/12/2007, -20/+14So again Apple, a company that supposedly makes such "superior" software and hardware has to yet again resort to talking about the other guy in order to push their wares.
When will Apple actually start selling their stuff by telling us all the wonderful things it supposedly does? - keyboardduder, on 10/12/2007, -10/+1BTW, im bored at work and i felt like telling people why macs suck, who wouldnt?
- keyboardduder, on 10/12/2007, -14/+1(huff puff)
- keyboardduder, on 10/12/2007, -20/+5 Apple sucks-straight-up. Apple is a company who was competition with windows in the 80s, hell, i think it was better in the 80s and the early 90s. Once the Pentium processor came out and windows 95 came out, windows became much better. Who the hell would design computers so that they dont have legacy (backwards compatibility for all your noobs) support? Apple has come back because tools like you are buying their music devices.
The IPod sucks too! Who else than Apple would design a music player that wouldnt let its users to share music? They created a huge "market" because they suck people in with these "retro and in style" stupid commericals with sillouttes and ***** bands like "the white stripes" playing in the background. Oh, everyone who buys an IPod or a mac is so artsy and sophisticated. The reality is that you buy ***** because people tell you to then you dig into their stupid itunes store just because you have the damn IPod. Buy yourself a real MP3 player and buy yourself a real computer.
Apple's new operating systems are buily on UNIX structure, which means that it was drived from open source software. As far as i know, open source is open, and wether its UNIX or LINUX, its easier to hack than windows. The problem is, people like windows machines better because they are better for office stuff, gaming, upgrades, price, maitainance. Theyre also in high competition with applications like photoshop and other media editing. (BTW, Im not really being biased, macs are better for MOST media apps but not by much). The apple computer was made for stupid people to do stupid things with, easily. If it were up to me, mouses wouldnt even exist. Only people who deserved to use computers could use them, not people who make dumb articles like this.
Windows runs on computers that are esily upgradable. People will go out and buy an introductory computer package for about $600. It comes with a tower, a printer, and a monitor. After you bring it home, you can add things to it. like memory, a new video card, a new heatsink. All kinds of companies make these computers and their parts, all these computers are called "clones"(back in the day termonology for a computer not made BY THE OS THAT SUPPORTS IT). Apple doesnt let people sell "clones" all their computers only come from them. So theres no competition! They give the price and people buy them. The only reason for people to buy one is for strict media usage/editing. Buy if youre dumb enough to buy one, its gonna cost you at least AT LEAST 1,200 for a decent model.
The reason people buy macs nowadays is because they got away with so much of YOUR MONEY frmo the IPod sales and accessories, they can market macs AGRESSIVELY. if you didnt watch so much TV, you wouldnt want one. And who in the right mind changes their company name from "Apple Computer" to "Apple Inc." Nutjobs. - keyboardduder, on 10/12/2007, -17/+2bury me will you? I speak the truth!
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