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- rawg, on 06/04/2008, -3/+89I hate the slideshow player at Forbes. Here's the list:
1) Macintosh (1984)
2) iMac (1998)
3) iPod (2001)
4) iPod Nano (2005)
5) iPhone (2007)
6) MacBook Air (2008)
7) 3G iPhone (2008?)
8) Safari Tablet (2008?)
9) Television (by 2012)
10) Clock Radio (by 2013)
11) Picture Frame (by 2013)
12) Remote Control (by 2013)
13) Free Starbucks Coffee (2010)
Stupid list IMO. Where's the iTunes Music Store, Apple Retail Stores with Genius Bars, Airport Wifi, Powerbook, Newton, etc? and "Free Starbucks Coffee" - WTF? Most of the items on this list seem recently ass pulled by the author. - ahhell, on 06/05/2008, -5/+35Not a single one of those is an innovation. They simply improved on already available technology.
Buried for being *****. - inactive, on 06/05/2008, -2/+26Buried for thinking Apple will come out with a clock radio by 2013.
- dondara, on 06/05/2008, -6/+25The Macintosh -Changed everything
iMac -Fantastic design
iPod -Simplicity and great function
Nano -same but really tiny
iPhone -yeah, cool phone
MacBook Air -cool design not what I was looking for
3G iPhone -Where? I don't see that in any store
Safari Tablet -Really? They are planning that?
Television -Umm, that would be neat
Clock Radio -Wait, What?, a clock radio? I don't see why they ...
Picture Frame -Ok, now you're just ***** with me.
Remote Control -Uh huh, for what the clock radio?
Free Starbucks Coffee -No thanks, I've wasted enough time. - inactive, on 06/05/2008, -1/+18***** dumbest article ever – clock radio? who the ***** uses clock radios?
- mizarone, on 06/05/2008, -0/+1615) iCarumba! (2016)
- MacParrot, on 06/05/2008, -0/+16This WAS a stupid list. Add in the slideshow and it goes beyond fail.
The Mac...sure
The iPod...of course
They left out the Newton which really was amazing for its time though a failure in sales. iTMS should have been included, perhaps the Airport WiFi. I would include FireWire and USB, not because Apple created them (they didn't) but because their using it in the iMacs really kick started USB and FireWire as used for Video Transfer was what restarted the home video market.
I would also have included iMovie, iPhoto (though not GarageBand or iWeb), and iDVD as proof that really complicated software doesn't have to buried with obscure and difficult to use menus and buttons.
I agree with the iPhone choice though I've yet to buy one. Even if you hate Apple (and I'm guessing the usual crowd of trolls will be here soon), the iPhone has started a revolution in easier to use interfaces for cell phones and that means we all win whether or not you ever buy one.
I dislike the fact they included multiple versions of essentially the same product (iPod, iPod nano or the iMac and the MacBook Air) and included stupid predictions in future Apple products.
Sloppy writing meant mostly for page views. Dugg you up for including the list so no one else has to read it. - zimsters, on 06/05/2008, -6/+20last i check apple doesn't innovate. they just rip off other people's ideas but market them well.
- gr3yn3t, on 06/05/2008, -3/+16buried for forbes.
- ThankTheCheese, on 06/05/2008, -3/+16Clock Radio? Jesus tapdancing Christ give me a break.
- e3winter, on 06/05/2008, -3/+13No Newton?
- arjie, on 06/05/2008, -0/+9Woah, those are innovations! I can just see it happening in 2013, "Behold! The Remote Control!"
- suprxtragrav, on 12/09/2008, -8/+16yes! another fanboy circle jerking article!
- fezzasus, on 06/05/2008, -2/+9The future ones are so crap. Why would apple introduce a digital picture frame when you can have a apple TV displaying your photographs? Why would they introduce a complicated remote when your itouch/iphone can (read: will be able to) control your apple products.
- ncc74656m, on 06/05/2008, -2/+9This must be a joke. Even Apple wouldn't bother reinventing the wheel, unless they could sell it for $500 over value.
- lukak, on 06/05/2008, -1/+8screw you forbes.
- savagesteve13, on 06/05/2008, -4/+10I wouldn't say Apple is innovative, but they do make hardware thats easy to use and stylish.
The achilles heel of most technology companies is that the human interface portion of their products are never well thought out. - revjustin2, on 06/05/2008, -1/+7While I can only digg you once on the site, I dugg you three times in my brain.
- abbathdoom, on 06/05/2008, -0/+6iHate articles which are picture slide shows. Just write the stuff down on a single page FFS
- Cyber_Akuma, on 06/05/2008, -0/+6The Macintosh, the original iPod and original iPhone I agree with but.... but....
iPod Nano, Macbook Air, 3G iPhone, Clock Radio, TV, Picture Frame...... they consider THESE innovations?
Please tell me this is a joke article.
I don't see how taking an existing product(iPhone), and adding a faster method of wireless access that everybody else who purchased a phone from that carrier 3 years ago already has is considered an innovation, especially since everybody was complaning about the lack of 3G.
Ditto with the nano and air, I actually consider the air a step backwards.
.... and a clock radio? Seriously?
Even if they wanted to add a method to load your music on it such a thing also exists, just because a product that has already existed for a while now has an Apple logo it is now innovative? - DeFex, on 06/05/2008, -2/+7don't forget that they put them in nice looking packaging.
they took the "mp3 player" and made a nice version of it. back then most other choices were pretty crap. they did not invent it though. - ivantalboys, on 06/05/2008, -0/+5Forbes are saying 100 to 1 that the 3G iPhone is announced on the 9th June? I think their tech writer needs to have a word with their sports writer.
- ftx437, on 06/05/2008, -1/+6I agree!
- bradleyland, on 06/05/2008, -0/+5They have a motto in the "lists" department at Forbes:
"The straws, we must grab at them." - LocalScope, on 06/05/2008, -1/+6Exactly what I was gonna say. Those are apple products not innovations.
- MacParrot, on 06/05/2008, -1/+6I would agree that the article was poorly worded. It might have been more accurate to say that the Steve's (Jobs and Woz) have been around since the dawn of Home Computing.
I would have dugg you up except for your last statement. Apple has made some amazing products but rarely does anyone invent anything entirely new. - revjustin2, on 06/05/2008, -1/+6I agree with all your points, but as someone who has worked with a lot of different audio applications, I think GarageBand isn't so bad. It's not an innovation, you're right, but it's a rather powerful app that runs quickly and smoothly and is easy to get into. I've had fun playing around with it at least.
- evolutionium, on 06/05/2008, -0/+4Why I the following products are not mentioned in the list:
1) Newton
2) QuickTake
3) Power Mac G4 Cube
4) Lisa
5) Macintosh Portable
6) Macintosh TV
7) Apple Interactive Television Box
8) Pippin gaming console
Lesson of the day: "every company phaaaaailz, at sometimes" - Lockhart, on 06/05/2008, -0/+4LOL, they were pretty much just mentioning Apple's entire product line.
Clock radio? PICTURE FRAME? I used to think that Forbes was a no-***** news source. This article makes it sound like the ***** Daily Mail or People's Magazine. - hamobu, on 06/05/2008, -0/+3Apple has made some good products. The problem that I have with Apple is that I always feel that they are somehow trying to target more ignorant consumers and scam them. I have had this sentiment since mid 90's when Apple hardware cost three times as equivalent PC hardware and Mac Floppies could not be read in PCs. To be fair, competition has forced Apple to adopt PC hardware and the costs are similar, but i still see examples of Apple dishonesty. Things like pushing Safari trough iTunes, and charging customers for iPhones, and then charging developers for customers. There was even one mac vs. PC commercial that implied that PC will not be able to talk to that "New Japanese camera". WTF!
- hamobu, on 06/05/2008, -8/+11In the first frame: "Steve jobs has been around since the dawn of computing"
Good thing computers came out in late 70's. Imagine space program without computers! I know that COBOL for example has been around since 50's, but I am not sure what the used it for since Steve Jobs hadn't invented computers yet at that time.
Also, most things on that list are not Apple innovations. Only thing Apple is good at is marketing overpriced products. - Cyber_Akuma, on 06/05/2008, -2/+5Just how much of Apple's Magic Kool-Aid did Forbes drink?
- Nomad83, on 06/05/2008, -0/+3Um...what about the Apple II?
- fezzasus, on 06/05/2008, -3/+6I agree it should be there. It's an innovation regardless of it's failure.
- inactive, on 06/05/2008, -2/+5Why the ***** would I own a clock radio when everything I've bought in the past 5 years has an alarm function?
I have my laptop and cell phone both set up to wake me up with whatever sound/music I want, and they both operate on the same weekly schedule.
I could set up roughly 10 alarms using devices in my bedroom alone. - tupperbacharach, on 06/05/2008, -0/+3***They left out the Newton which really was amazing for its time though a failure in sales.***
The stylus PDA first appeared two years prior to the Newton, in the form of the Sony PTC-300: http://www.sony.net/Fun/design/history/product/199 ...
***I would include FireWire and USB, not because Apple created them (they didn't) but because their using it in the iMacs really kick started USB and FireWire as used for Video Transfer was what restarted the home video market.***
The subject is Apple "innovations". I would actually give Apple credit for originally specifying the guidelines for Firewire, however, the guidelines for a high-speed serial bus qualify as a "standard", not as an innovation. - l800LEMMINGS, on 06/05/2008, -0/+3http://images.forbes.com/media/2008/05/29/stevejob ...
PRICELESS! - MacParrot, on 06/05/2008, -0/+3GarageBand is an amazing program and I use it all the time in various ways. I'm not condemning it, I just don't think it was a game changer in the same ways that the iPod or iMovie is. Apple has (or had) Soundtrack that did many of the same things in a more complicated (yet more powerful) way. GarageBand in some ways is a victim of its own success. They've added more features to it instead of trying to find a way to simplify which is one of almost all of the iLife's programs best features. Add to what's there without mucking up the interface. In that regard, they've failed with GarageBand.
- batmanz, on 06/05/2008, -2/+4Apple TV? An innovation? Microsoft had a better system way before they did, Apple TV just sucks.
- timalmond, on 06/05/2008, -1/+3I count 1 innovation there - the Macintosh, a truly groundbreaking machine for the market.
The rest? Improvements on the implementation of existing technology. - pudds, on 06/05/2008, -0/+2Buried for being an annoying slideshow.
I wish I could bury it again for inaccuracy, and once for for being lame. - samuelcotterall, on 06/05/2008, -0/+2Can I have that two minutes back please?
- Niomi, on 06/05/2008, -2/+4Fapfapfapfapfapfap
- tupperbacharach, on 06/05/2008, -0/+2Like all of the other items on the list, the Newton was not an actual innovation.
The stylus PDA first appeared two years prior to the Newton, in the form of the Sony PTC-300: http://www.sony.net/Fun/design/history/product/199 ... - celkin, on 06/05/2008, -6/+814) iEye (2015)
- torgreed, on 06/05/2008, -0/+2"Mac Floppies could not be read in PCs"
This was very much true for the GCR-encoded 800K floppy drives in early Macs. The ones that used DSDD 3.5" floppies. These drives actually used a zoned-CAV technology to vary the disk speed based on the track the head was positioned at. Since the controller could only cope with a constant bit rate, it couldn't read MFM floppies from a PC.
There was a Mac emulator for the Amiga, and to transfer files, it used the portion of the Mac floppy that used the standard speed (600 RPM, IIRC). So you could only transfer 200K at a time.
Amiga floppies couldn't be read in a PC either, because they used track-at-once instead of sector-at-once writing, and there were no inter-sector gaps. PCs couldn't cope. But Amigas could write PC MFM diskettes, because all they had to do was put the gaps in (and drop down to 720K from 880K).
The original Mac SuperDrive was the DSHD drive that could handle 800K Mac floppies and 1.44M Mac and PC floppies. I don't remember if it could also do 720K PC floppies, or if the lack of the HD hole on the diskette put the drive into zone-CAV mode for the 800K Mac format.
Reading 1.44M Mac floppies on Windows was possible with 3rd party software, because the data format was the same, just the filesystem was different. (FAT just doesn't have all the information needed.) - pyrates, on 06/05/2008, -1/+3Firewire and USB do not count because It is supposed to be Apple Innovations, not things Apple adopted from third parties. Get it right. Apple is not the be all end all of computers.
As for the iPhone, it is easier to use for tasks that always bugged me about most cell phones. Being able to put people on hold, switch calls if you have call waiting, change to use your blue tooth audio headset instead, indicating if the person's home or cell phone line was calling you, and being able to flick my fingers through contacts because it requires a lot less effort from me to find someone then. This is what I like about the iPhone. On any other cell phone doing those things except the last 2 was hard to figure out by just looking at it, and the last 2 were just features I appreciate to have. One more thing I do wanna say, I like the decision that Apple made to not use a push sensitive touch screen and instead is a heat sensitive touch screen. This kind of touch screen is much more responsive compared to the other cell phones that have touch screens that are push sensitive.
Now I'm waiting for the android OS to come out on a good cell phone that is similar to the iPhone just so that I can hack it even more then I have with my iPhone. I gotta say that if I could have never hacked my iPhone, I would have never gotten one. - tupperbacharach, on 06/05/2008, -1/+3***What about OSX? What about the iMac? What about the Apple II? What about the multi-touch interface of the powerbook, macbook and iPhone? What about "Mail", "Addressbook", iChat, (I wont say iTunes because it is Soundjam MP repackaged), Garageband? What about a simple TCP stack?***
All of these Apple items are derivative. Apple did not actually originate nor innovate any of them. - Diganta, on 06/05/2008, -0/+2As someone who enjoys Apple products this Forbes list is beyond lame. No mention of Newton, Hypercard ...etc.
I also don't understand how the iPod (maybe) and then the very next thing listed is iPod Nano. Shrinking your so called innovative device is not another innovation. - MacParrot, on 06/05/2008, -0/+2Well I won't argue about price. That is a strawman and has gone on for a long time. Played out.
I found this remark interesting:
"Mac Floppies could not be read in PCs."
Did you know that Macs had the ability to easily read and format floppies for PCs? So where does the fault lie in PCs not being able to read Mac formatted floppies? Apple had it in their OS to read Windows floppies. Why didn't Microsoft have it in their OS to read Mac (or any other OS) formatted floppies? Moving on.
I agree that having Safari automatically checked for download on Windows computers for iTunes updates was wrong. Apple was chastised for that nonsense and now it's changed.
I'm not entirely sure what you mean by charging for iPhones and then charging developers. Can you explain that better please?
As far as the Mac/PC commercials go, look at them carefully. They aren't really intended to sell Macs but Apple as a brand. As such, they've been very successful (though in many ways dishonest or at best misleading). I find them amusing, but don't concern myself with it any more than I did the Microsoft "Where do you want to go today?" ads. -
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