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ThinkSecret.com: 13.3-inch iBook, Mac OS X 10.4.4, Plaxo for Mac

thinksecret.com — Apple appears on track to deliver an Intel-based iBook early next year, sources report, and in doing so will replace its long-standing 14.1-inch model with a widescreen 13.3-inch display. Meanwhile, the company releases a new build of Mac OS X 10.4.4 to developers while Plaxo readies the first release of its Mac client.

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  • sudoman, on 10/12/2007, -2/+0ok, just one question? what is plaxo??
  • Spawnofbill, on 10/12/2007, -2/+0@sudoman

    Well, maybe if you would RTFA, you would know....
  • Aynatix, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0^^Word.
  • Everen, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Am I the only person that doesn't like Plaxo?
  • mrfx, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1u guys are in your own little world thats all i got to say.
  • p0ZiXXX, on 10/12/2007, -3/+0spammers
  • Spencerocks, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Sounds solid, I don't like the concept of Plaxo.. but if people use it and they've taken the effort to make a mac client it's obviously got a market.

    I'm not digging the new iBooks, I always use a 12 inch, but.. it's gonna be the same as my G4, but without a firewire slot, which the new iPods have made redundant anyway.. Unless the price point is lower, and the processor spec is nice on the batteries then these iBooks will not do well with the previous mac owners.

    Obviously having apple mac with intel inside will make hundreds of mothers around the world go out and buy their kids these things because intel is a household name and middle class parents follow that kind of shizzle.
  • NidStyles, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0SO anyone wanna sell me their used 12" G4 for relatively cheap? It has to be in pretty good condition at least though.
  • jarcoal, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0i'm gonna be pissed if the ibook makes it to intel before the powerbook.
  • scotsman, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Won't that just suck to see the 12" powerbook go to the wayside? It's a perfect size powerbook. Who wants to lug around some oversized slug?
  • Spencerocks, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0The consumer models WILL go to intel first jarcoal, sorry buddy but power macs and powerbooks are going to be last, now the eMac has been cut expect intel iBooks and iMacs at the same announcement, then the prosumer models within a year later..
  • wheels999, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Plaxo is evil.

    Interesting article on the subject written by Sydney University Lecturer;

    http://www.anu.edu.au/people/Roger.Clarke/DV/ContactPITs.html
  • abstractia, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I hope they dont get rid of the 12" Powerbook. I'm on a 12" iBook right now and I couldn't love the form factor better. I like my desktops huge and my laptops tiny. But I'm considering upgrading to an intel powerbook when they come out, and I won't buy a laptop bigger than 12" - I love the form factor too much!
  • abhibeckert, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I'm really digging the idea of a 13.3" iBook, the 14" iBook is a bit of a joke (both 12" and 14" run at 1024x768), but a widescreen would be very nice. And there's no way they're dropping the FireWire port btw.

    As for the 12" powerbook going away, I'll believe that when I see it. The 12" PB is a *really* nice computer. It's smaller, lighter, faster and more popular than the 12" iBook. Apple isn't going to drop the 12" unless they come up with something better (13" widescreen maybe?) Not having updated it in a while is far from a good "source".
  • karenin, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1"ok, just one question? what is plaxo??"

    plaxo is a paid-for advert masquerading as 'rumour'. An interesting advertising technique.
  • zodieman, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0My 12" iBook is up for sale while I can still get a decent price. I've already got a buyer but we'll see if he comes through. If the 13" model is true that fits the bill well for me.
  • filovirus, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0The iBook is going to be adopted by a greater number of casual users. This will allow Apple to continue the OS X intel beta test using real users. It is going to take time for power apps to port over. I suspect a couple of years before this is complete.

    I recently helped a coworker reload OS X on a G3 iBook. I thought it would be a dog, like a Pentium. Despite it being a weak machine, it ran remarkably well for every day internet, mail, quicken.

    Ramonnnne, bring me an intel Powerbook.
  • dougieb, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Here's another one... kind of the same... http://www.gadgetell.com/entry/251
  • dracula, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0nononononno intel based POWERbooks

    (please)
  • Brutusfly, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0First Weatherbug, now Plaxo. Used to be, you could download almost anything for your Mac and trust it. Crud.
  • dknighton, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Plaxo for Mac. Oh GREAT! Up until now the Mac platform has been relatively virus-free. So much for THAT!
  • Misos, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Plaxo? Is that something to prevent tooth decay?
  • justdarick, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I don't know what you people are smoking, I have used Plaxo for over 2 years. I have never had a single piece of adware/spyware/malware/virus come from it. I have also never had a piece of spam come in from the address that plaxo know's me by.

    So thanks anyway, but stop spreading rumors about a good product, especially since it's obvious you have never used it.
  • dignon, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I agree with the others, Plaxo is completely evil.

    If you're stupid enough to store all your personal information with a company that *promises* to never do anything bad with it, that's fine. But when you store *MY* personal information with said company, I have a BIG problem with it. This is what Plaxo does. They seruptiously collects everyone's info by suckering stupid people into posting their friends and collegues information for them. Usually, said stupid people are too dumb or just too arrogant to actually ask for permission to post their contact's information online. So, they are basically sacrificing the privacy of all the people they know, often without letting those people know or without the opportunity to object. Evil, evil, EVIL. Be good to your friends, Stay far away from Plaxo.
  • test5477, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0thats a huge letdown about the 12" powerbooks being phased out. I love the one i have and looks like i'll be keeping it a little longer than I thought. I like the size and weight, I don't want anything larger or need anything larger.
  • h2d2, on 10/12/2007, -3/+0Four words: Who gives a *****?
  • ForbesBingley, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Plaxo just sounds like a chuckier .Mac account...
  • ForbesBingley, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Note: chunkier, would be the correct word I was looking for.

    While the name Plaxo sounds suspiciously like a brand of chicken stuffin'...
  • diggnationdevon, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Plaxo is stupid, I downloaded AIM Triton the other day and I found it absolutely pointless.
  • cliffosj, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I think they will release a ibook version first, mainly so they can release a powerbook with a big increase in speed. Remember it is aimed at the more demanding users, i guess the'l want to make it a pretty decent improvement over the new ibook. I hope the 13 inch format comes to the powerbook as that would be awesome, no one seems to have mentioned that a 13 inch wide screen should be a smaller form factor than the 12 inch. You measure the diagonal size of a screen, 12 inch is squareish widescreen is rectangular do the math.
  • cakefart, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Personally, I have no doubt Plaxo will do EXACTLY what they say with the data. I bet they're completely sincere.

    That said, when the owners of Plaxo decide to cash in and sell their service to the AOMShoo!... the next owners of Plaxo will absofreakinlutely not honor any of the prior privacy and licensing policies and the users who've been gullible enough to pack away that much private data in the care of Plaxo are going to be 100% hosed and have zero recourse.
  • nicepants, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Does anyone else find Plaxo just a *BIT* suspicious? It's collecting personal information from anyone it can...makes you wonder what they're going to do with all of that information.
  • kittynipples, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0All my contacts are synced with my .Mac account, so what exactly is the difference?
  • PlaxoPrivacyGuy, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Despite the mouth-freshening name - Plaxo is an online contact management service. Plaxo is about a better way of staying in touch with people by keeping contact details updated automatically, even as details change.

    The concept is simple - people manage their own contact details as well as who they would like to share those details with. When they update their details (new cell phone, new email, etc...), Plaxo automatically updates the Plaxo Address Books of other members the person has given access to. There is no need for email, no need manual entry, - Plaxo keeps people in touch automatically. Plaxo does this automatically when two members are both Plaxo members. Ideally, if everyone on a member's address book were also a Plaxo member, the member's address book becomes a 100% self-updating address book, and they would never lose touch with any of their contacts.

    There are two primary components of Plaxo - the Plaxo Service which is where the member's Plaxo Address Book is maintained, and the optional Plaxo software. The Plaxo software integrates into a person's local address book keeping it synchronized with their Plaxo Address Book. The Plaxo software ensures the member always has the most current information within their local address book. It also enables them to access their address book information remotely through Plaxo Online and keeps a current backup of their contact details that can be quickly restored should a person suffer a system crash or lose their laptop.

    These are just a few of the benefits provided by Plaxo. Please feel free to contact us if you have any further questions or comments.

    Thank you,

    Stacy Martin
    Plaxo Privacy Officer
    privacy @t plaxo.com
  • PlaxoPrivacyGuy, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0There was a comment earlier that Plaxo is evil because as a member, you are storing the details of others within a 3rd party company. People can decide for themselves, but it should be noted that managing information with Plaxo is similar to maintaining the exact same type of contact details of others within the online address books of services such as Yahoo!, AOL, Hotmail, or .MAC. I'm unsure if the commenter also feels similarly about these other services because they also allow their users to maintain online address books. I realize that because our service is focused on Address Book management the privacy and security issues become very evident, but these issues are really the same for any such service.

    IMHO, the bottom line is what these services do with the information people maintain the service and is the service trustworthy. Our service is built on trust and Plaxo follows some of the most consumer protective privacy practices around. Our public Privacy Policy states:

    - Your Information is your own and you decide who will have access to it.
    - You maintain ownership rights to Your Information, even if there is a business transition or policy change.
    - You may add, delete, or modify Your Information at any time.
    - Plaxo will not update or modify Your Information without your permission.
    - Plaxo will not sell, exchange, or otherwise share Your Information with third parties, unless required by law or in accordance with your instructions.
    - Plaxo does not send spam, maintain spam mailing lists, or support the activities of spammers.

    But I will be the first to admit that Plaxo is not for everyone. But for people who are looking for a better and easier way to stay in touch with friends, family, and business associates, Plaxo may be worth considering. Our focus will continue to build a valued service that people trust and find useful.

    Stacy Martin
    Plaxo Privacy Officer
    privacy @t plaxo.com
  • PlaxoPrivacyGuy, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0> the next owners of Plaxo will absofreakinlutely not honor any of the
    > prior privacy and licensing policies and the users who've been gullible enough to
    > pack away that much private data in the care of Plaxo are going to be 100% hosed and
    > have zero recourse.

    Cake - We are not looking to sell, but I can certainly not predict the future. But I would agree with your comments. I also wanted to add that IF Plaxo were to be acquired by a new owner, the new owner would be LEGALLY bound to follow our existing Privacy practices for existing information. The FTC Act requires that companies honor privacy promises, which also covers changes to privacy policies. Section 5 of the FTC Act declares unfair and deceptive practices unlawful, which would include having one set of privacy practices to collect a wealth of information, only to change those practices later on after the information has been collected. Companies can change their privacy practices, but it would only apply to new information collected. Under the law, previous information would continue to be handled under the privacy practices in place at the time of collection.
  • JasonHD, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0How did this turn into a Plaxo sales pitch? Get out of here
  • Boondoggle, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1@JasonHD:

    "How did this turn into a Plaxo sales pitch? Get out of here"

    Because people were bitching wholesale about Plaxo. I don't think it is unreasonable for someone from the company to counter that. Or maybe you just like bitching.
  • cakefart, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Like an FTC rule will stop anyone from doing exactly what they want to make a buck. The next time the Bush FTC acts in the interest of consumer privacy will be the first. Last time I checked, broadcasts using the public airwaves were supposed to be in the public interest, monopolies were illegal, and it was unlawful to start a business enterprise for the sole purpose of wrecking another companies' business.

    Enforcement fantasies aside, all has to do is change their terms of service on a buried page and give you an opt out phrased in the most deceptive manner possible. Then their change in ToS is completely statutorily legal and has considerable precedent, especially in financial and information service customary practice and case law.
  • PlaxoPrivacyGuy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Actaully, there are a number of cases where the FTC has stepped in to protect the privacy rights of consumers and brought action against companies that have failed to honor their privacy promises (http://www.ftc.gov/privacy/privacyinitiatives/promises_enf.html). While there may be companies that try to circumvent their privacy practices in the manner you described, obviously I do not believe Plaxo is one of these companies. I feel we've published our ToS and Privacy policy in a very clear and straightforward manner. Users are encouraged to read through these prior to joining Plaxo in order to make a well-informed decision (http://www.plaxo.com/privacy/policy). This allows people to judge our actions against our words to determine if Plaxo is worthy of their trust.
  • dignon, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0How is it that nobody can mention Plaxo anywhere on the Internet without a Plaxo representative showing up within 24 hrs? Seriously. *That* scares me.
  • PlaxoPrivacyGuy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Interesting, but what is it that scares you? Do you prefer companies that do not understand the power of blogs, aren't willing to listen to the feedback of users, and refuse to participate in a public discussion about their product or service? Scary or not, I think for companies to be successful today, they need to be reaching out and listening closely and responding to the feedback of users - good or bad. Blogs are a perfect way to do so, and participating in forums like these has helped us to improve our service. I've written about this on our own blog at: http://blog.plaxo.com/archives/000073.html.
  • ssocket, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0"if" you really believed in the power of blogs and listening to people you would have had an official plaxo for mac a year ago
  • windowsrookie, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I'm teh 900th Digg. I feel special. :)
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