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- aurifex, on 10/12/2007, -12/+65Greenpeace is a radical activist group, and from my experience they never play by the ruels of others. They always cause problems.
- Ganpachi, on 10/12/2007, -9/+36"The problem came to a head when one woman complained that they had placed an apple in her child's pram and were taking photographs of him without her permission."
Those bastards! They deserve everything they get. Personally I think ejection was too soft! It's criminal what these guys think they can get away with. - mistergosh, on 10/12/2007, -5/+31Well, think of it as a bunch of weirdos taking photos and playing with your baby while he's in his pram, without asking for permission.
It is very creepy >_> - Quinadal, on 10/12/2007, -6/+27I thought they were peace loving rational protesters...like PETA..lol
- locnguyen, on 10/12/2007, -2/+21I donate my money to other groups, eg. Sierra Club, Yosemite Fund etc. Greenpeace is the worst thing that ever happened to the environmental movement.
- PAJK, on 10/12/2007, -3/+21Na, hippies at least know what they're fighting for. Greenpeace fight for the sake of fighting.
- inkswamp, on 10/12/2007, -2/+14I'm all for peaceful expression of your views, but when it starts to get into other people's faces, that's where you lose me. It's like that old saying: your right to swing your fist ends at my nose. These guys need to examine their tactics, because I agree with their basic ideals, but (if this report is true) then they were completely out of line on this and embarrassed themselves. That does their cause no good at all.
- inkswamp, on 10/12/2007, -8/+17> Those bastards! They deserve everything they get. Personally
> I think ejection was too soft! It's criminal what these guys think
> they can get away with.
I'm surprised at how many of you downplay the severity of a bunch of strangers using your child for their own political purposes. Clearly you have no idea what a violation it is for anyone to approach or contact your child against your wishes. Please get some perspective before commenting. You just make yourself look cold-hearted and thoughtless and unable to empathize with other people which is all very immature. - cyberdork, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9In my opinion Greenpeace has hurt the enviromentalist cause much much more than they have helped it.
They are one big reason why most people believe nowadays that helping the enviroments is only for dope smoking radicals. - Celeron, on 10/12/2007, -6/+14Greenpeace are like children.
- pgtourdotnet, on 10/12/2007, -2/+10Recently someone I know who was working at Apple was listening to a webinar and one of the people attending asked why Apple is so low on the "Greenpeace" list. Jobs replied with stating that Apple has contacted them multiple times and have failed to get any response back / they're doing it just for the name.
He also stated the new IPod packaging saved over a 100 flights while shipping because of the reduced sized.
And that's your random fact of the day. (Hopefully it was coherant) - goatrandy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7@straxus - Yep. You're right. Digg me down boys, this one has point.
- straxus, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8goatrandy, I'm as sick of the 'think of the children' argument as anyone, but that isn't what this is. This is a parent directly protecting their child from an unknown person who was directly interacting with them in a very strange manner. The 'think of the children' argument is used when parents don't want to do their job. This one did. Most likely, the Greenpeace person snapping the pictures was going to use those pictures in a 'think of the children' propaganda piece.
- shakin, on 10/12/2007, -13/+19I can only assume that "pram" is slang for "butthole".
- spidoman, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6"I'd say the Boston Tea Party might be a good example."
Lol you had to go back 300 years? - dpknc84, on 10/12/2007, -5/+10"where were the parents of the kid"
Probably oogling some new Apple gadget. Come on, you know you've zoned out too when you see some cool new piece of hardware, then nearly drowned in your own drool. - goatrandy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5@caliform - Please, don't feed the trolls.
- caliform, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7So the first amendment was amended to:
"Freedom to spew out irrational crap."? - mrmatchgame, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5I truly hate Greenpeace. To them its either their way or the highway.
- NSResponder, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4"Greenpiece fight for the sake of fighting"
Not exactly. They fight to gain publicity, so that people will send them money that they would otherwise have contributed to legitimate environmentalist organizations.
-jcr - inkswamp, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4@goatrandy,
It's a rare thing to see someone admit they're wrong (assuming you're not being sarcastic) especially on the Internet. That's very respectable. I may have misjudged you. - gmerin, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5when one of the primary founders of Greenpeace (if not the sole founder) quits the group because (in his own words) "the group has lost sight of it's mission", Greenpeace also lost it's credibility. they should have first been been barred from the event because they're simply no longer relevant.
- goatrandy, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5 Why did Gryfft get modded down? That was funny.
Ohhh, I know! No one got the whole FTL = Faster Than Light thing. - rosshettel, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4One time it has worked? Hm. I'd say the Boston Tea Party might be a good example. But that was just to prove you wrong. Greenpeace went way out of hand when they didn't need to and didn't accomplish anything.
- there, on 10/12/2007, -3/+5
I can't speak about the details of this particular incident but some dude's blog opinion is hardly proof that Greenpeace is a violent movement. Ouuuu... they placed flyers and stood were they shouldn't have. Quick call the NSA and send them to Gitmo.
Arguing Greenpeace are violent extremists is like arguing Ghandi is a violent extremist. It's absurdly ridiculous to even suggest it. There are always members of every group that are rude or even extremist but you need to look at the bulk of individuals to make fair assessments.
IMHO those that call Greenpeace violent are typically far far more likely to support violence and usually the reason they say it is to justify their own violent polical agenda. - inkswamp, on 10/12/2007, -5/+7> this may be a stupid question...but where were the parents of the kid?
The parent(s) could have been standing right there, but that wouldn't have stopped them. Two people could ambush them easily enough, one placing an apple in there and another snapping a shot in a matter of seconds. - rocketryguy, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4Does anybody know when they went over the edge?
I used to volunteer for them, when I was very young, and they were ok folks then(Ok, this was the late 70's or so). It seems like they've slid as an organization into some odd directions that don't include a lot of critical thought.
Bummer. - Clearz, on 10/12/2007, -10/+12Well everybody knows that Greenpeace are a bunch of tree-loving freaks that smell and don't know how to act in a normal civilized environment.
Now mod me down you god damn hippies. :D - CodenameEvan, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3That seems to be the essence of the problem with groups like Greenpeace. Ultimately, the success of their mission requires that they convince the public at large of the rightness of their cause. Generally, they try to do with by, in some way, shocking people out of their complacency, but they don't seem to understand that there's a fine line to be walked there and all too often just end up coming off as a pack of mean-spirited exhibitionists only succeeding in further alienating people from their point of view.
- inkswamp, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Dunno why you're getting buried because you're one of the few who seems to understand that these guys are *not* hippies. Everyone has mindlessly swallowed this post-Reagan propaganda that anyone on the left is a hippie. These people are not peace-n-love types. I wish people would get this straight.
FWIW, I'm no fan of the whole idealized hippie image (usually propagated by Hollywood and baby Boomers longing to put more shine on the turd of the 1960s) but Greenpeace is not about being a hippie. - NSResponder, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2They're not terrorists. They're attention whores, and to the best of my knowledge they have yet to actually hurt anyone or provide funding to terrorists. (Compare to PETA, which gives money to the "Animal Liberation Front".)
-jcr - inkswamp, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Why do you think they're hippies? Does that term mean anything to you or are you just using that as a catch-all for anyone on the left?
These people are anarchists. And I mean that as a philosophical viewpoint, not as the trendy punk rock thing. They hate hippies themselves. Seriously, look into it and stop the knee-jerk anti-hippie thing. - pgtourdotnet, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Your reply intrigued me, so I decided to ask Google. Though I agree with you for the most part, I like how almost every website says "which uses non-violent" in the description of Greenpeace..
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=is+greenpeace+violent%3F&btnG=Google+Search - goatrandy, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4 The Sierra Club isn't as bad as Greenpeace, although I'm forced to agree that they jumped the shark years ago.
It really makes me sad. I used to give to both of them, as well as PETA. Now I would feel ashamed to donate to any of the bastards.
Does anyone know of an enviromental orginization that isn't filled with looney militant whack-offs? I believe in taking care of nature so that my brothers kids (I sure the hell ain't having any) will still know what an otter is, but I don't want to do it at the expense of human lives/dignity.
I think Teddy Roosevelt was the last one who had it right. Compassion, caring, and an understanding that humans will always be human so the parks had better be entertaining, or no one will care. - WackyT, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Thought the crowd that adores Apple is against rules and regulations? Isn't that the whole premise behind "Think Different"?
- whackaxe, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I don"t dislike greenpeace. but there is a time and place for everything. and apparntly MacExpo was the time and place for making dicks out of themselves by trying to push their message down everyone's throat.
- Modulo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1oh, we got it.
- NSResponder, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Well, second worst. The worst are that repugnanlt little band of arsonists who call themselves the "earth first movement".
-jcr - penneyisok, on 10/12/2007, -8/+9this may be a stupid question...but where were the parents of the kid? If there were with there kid I'd doubt that it would have happened
- rtini, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3Haven't you seen Monty Python and the Holy Grail? Remember the wacky musical scene in Camelot, the final verse was sung by this dude with a deeper voice:
"I have to push the pram a lot..." (rhyming with "camelot")
It's a cart, buggy or carriage. - whiteguysamurai, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Hippies vs hippes with money?
- nutkracker, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0
Well I queued up this morning waiting to get into the show and they we're outside handing out leaflets and 'green' apples.... - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2nvm.....
pram1 /præm/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[pram] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–noun Chiefly British Informal.
perambulator. - Arnos, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Anyone pause to consider that the head of these radical organizations may actually be under the Republicans payroll? Think about it.
Instead of being a group that the common folk can identify with, they are mostly thought of as "on the fringe". Instead of sending money to good organizations (i.e. the Democratic party) Liberals are now splitting their donations among several ineffective/radical groups instead of concentrating it to take on the Conservative Machine.
Hmmmmmm. - KingMoses, on 10/12/2007, -3/+3They're watermelons; green on the outside, pink on the inside.
Don't fall for hidden-agenda wackjobs like Greenpeace. They only want to stand in the way of economic freedom. - ultimathule, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2What the ***** is up with this guy's grammatical competence?
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- gb506, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0@Arnos:
eehhh, shhhhaaaaddddaaaappp, moonbat. - nanabite, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1I hate hippies.
- there, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Rather than call others illiterate why not try and pay attention to details yourself. Take for example this final statement..
"So there you have it. Radical activists taking the peace out of Greenpeace."
I sure as hell would say your "objective" blogger is inferring Greenpeace is violent.
News at 11:00: Peace hating Greenpeace radicals were caught inappropriately handing out flyers and I heard from a friend of a friend of a friend on some Internet blog somewhere that one of them was drunk or pushy. Someone should call for a cruise missle strike on those violent peace haters.
Com'mon bro. Do you seriously think these types of ridiculous stories make it the front of Digg purely as a humor or tech story? It's obviously politically driven. -
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