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- dagamer34, on 05/09/2008, -3/+18Games require upgrading a video card from time to time. Upgrading a Mac requires buying a new computer. See the dilemma?
- ferrariman60, on 05/09/2008, -5/+18Because it's an Apple thing. Most Apple fanboys will buy one sight unseen, remember?
- Dumbledorito, on 05/09/2008, -2/+15It'll happen, right after the Year of the Linux Desktop.
- weeman43302, on 05/09/2008, -1/+12Wooosh!
- Shadowgamers, on 05/09/2008, -1/+10" Well, we tried to have a conversation with Apple for several years, and they never seemed to... well, we have this pattern with Apple, where we meet with them, people there go "wow, gaming is incredibly important, we should do something with gaming". And then we'll say, "OK, here are three things you could do to make that better", and then they say OK, and then we never see them again. And then a year later, a new group of people show up, who apparently have no idea that the last group of people were there, and never follow though on anything. So, they seem to think that they want to do gaming, but there's never any follow through on any of the things they say they're going to do. That makes it hard to be excited about doing games for their platforms." Gabe Newell
- tnoy, on 05/09/2008, -2/+11Every other year there is a story about Apple making a breakthrough in gaming. Its not going to happen.
- GDOG5, on 05/09/2008, -0/+9The Wii consoles white enough to be made by Apple
- erickhill, on 05/09/2008, -3/+11At least according to the 2006 patent that they filed, it could be a part of an upgraded Apple TV (which, at the time of the patent, totally ripped off the Wii). Now that would be interesting if you ask me - especially with all of the Apple product integration possibilities.
- ajb2015, on 05/09/2008, -2/+10why don't you wait to see it first?
- evillawngnome, on 05/09/2008, -7/+14Didn't they make the wii?
- GorfTron, on 05/09/2008, -2/+9Gaming is a badly underrated reason why windows/PC remains popular. M$ owes more to gamers than they will ever know.
- Burn, on 05/09/2008, -0/+7Samba, CUPS and WebKit are proof that that's not (entirely) true.
- dzw120, on 05/09/2008, -4/+10I know that the article focuses on mobile gaming, but I think it is important for Apple to also look into gaming on its computers. The company's market share is increasing and you're looking at a lot of general consumers and college students making iMac and Macbook purchases. These new customers, unlike artists, do take into account gaming capabilities when looking at buying a computer. Things aren't too bad right now, with Blizzard and some EA titles being supported on the Mac, but it's important to keep the titles coming and not completely forget about Mac computer gaming while looking towards mobile gaming.
- inactive, on 05/09/2008, -0/+6Actually, that is not irony...
- aznhomig, on 05/09/2008, -6/+11Here, have some more Kool-Aid.
- focom, on 05/09/2008, -0/+5Closed hardware makes desktop mac gaming very unattractive.
PC gamers already complain enough about having to shell out $500 for a graphics card + CPU every 2-3 years. - inactive, on 05/09/2008, -1/+6You can talk, linux boy. It's not like linux is great for gaming either :P hehe
- deiphobus, on 05/09/2008, -0/+5You talk as if Halo were a success on a Mac. :P
- protium, on 05/09/2008, -0/+5Was steve job sticking his rod up your ass when you posted that?
- boomerang42, on 05/09/2008, -1/+6I own a MacBook Pro, and a Dell XPS. I use and love both systems. Thats why I love watching these fights.
Macs can DualBoot Windows as well as Mac, so Windows Fanboys are caught up there. I currently have Bioshock, Oblivion, Baldur's Gate 2, Call of Duty 4, and some others on my Mac and they work fine. On the other hand, Adobe programs such as Photoshop and Imageready are easier to use for me on my PC, same goes for text processing.
PC are great at some things that Macs suck at, and Macs are great at some things that PCs suck at. It's all about opinion and preference. In the end you're all just fighting over big, overpriced, chunks of metal. - waydee, on 05/09/2008, -0/+5Just... no.
- Avor, on 05/09/2008, -1/+6Valve wanted Apple to pay 1 million dollars to cover their development costs for porting to OS X. It wasn't Apple lack of cooperation; they just were not going to cover Valve's cost of business. Valve's offer was complete assbackwards thinking and I wouldn't fault any company for turning it down regardless of their size. If they had gone through with it, what kind of precedent would it set for Apples image from a developers standpoint?
- VinnieDaMac, on 05/09/2008, -2/+6Games are the single biggest reason why I don't own a Mac and why I don't really care to own a Mac.
- thenome, on 05/09/2008, -5/+9The main reason I hear (from friends) that they don't buy a mac is that there's no games. Although, this isn't entirely true; Apple needs to make a push into this market into a big way if they want to succeed in the long run.
- ucg1, on 05/09/2008, -0/+4Apple has also released as open source software that they created (not just contributed to), such as Darwin Streaming Server, Bonjour, and launchd.
- Avor, on 05/09/2008, -3/+7All I know is that Blizzard has been releasing games for Windows/Mac OS for over a decade. Part of the problem is just company laziness.
- inactive, on 05/09/2008, -0/+4A big push for Mac gaming... again.
Don't they say this EVERY YEAR?!?!!! - kris33, on 05/09/2008, -0/+3OpenGL 2 is already at DX9 level and OpenGL 3 is only a couple of months away.
- Hangly, on 05/09/2008, -3/+6The main reason I don't buy a mac is because I never have that much money at one time. If I could buy macs a component at a time like you can a PC, I would have switched long ago.
- bjs3171, on 05/09/2008, -0/+3I really don't understand why Apple doesn't just put a decent graphics card on a few of their normal computers. You can now duel boot windows onto these things, and then you could play any game you want on the windows side of your Mac.
- badnewsblair, on 05/09/2008, -0/+3Don't they revive this rumor every year?
- serif69, on 05/09/2008, -0/+3...so you use virtualization to play games on Linux, which proves the OP's point that linux isn't great for gaming. Macs do virtualization and dual-booting, too ya know...
- bigandy, on 05/09/2008, -5/+8I guess the well rounded API that is OpenGL doesn't count?
:rolleyes: - MacParrot, on 05/09/2008, -5/+8Ah, the 12 year old contingent speaks. Thank you for your input, however until you can actually grown facial hair (assuming you're a boy), hold down a job, actually purchase consumer goods (you know beyond what your mom buys for you), or otherwise contribute to society at large, no one really cares what you think. But it's SO cute when you try.
- Hangly, on 05/09/2008, -1/+4The other thing is I don't want a mac all that badly. Much easier to continue upgrading parts of my PC.
- fuzed, on 05/09/2008, -1/+4Mac Gaming = Oxymoron
- MacParrot, on 05/09/2008, -2/+4Yeah good thing those consoles that so many developers are starting to move to over PC gaming is so easy to switch out hardware for...wait
- MacParrot, on 05/09/2008, -1/+3Apple is dependent (for now) on the good graces of Microsoft to give us Office for the Mac and a few other technologies that would make the platform weaker without it. Since Windows is at the core of Microsoft's business model, how much co-operation would Apple get if they openly contributed to the WINE project?
- MacParrot, on 05/09/2008, -0/+2No that's right and Bungie actually had a working demo they showed at a Macworld conference. Within six months, Microsoft bought them out. A lot of people hated Bungie for that, but if I owned a company and someone came along and offered hundreds of millions of dollars beyond what the company was worth, I'd sell it too.
In the meantime, remember that even in the bad days of the 90s when it looked very bleak for Apple and the Macintosh, Bungie gave us Mac users Marathon and the Myth series amongst others and I thank them for their hard work over the years. - SteveMax, on 05/09/2008, -0/+2"with an overclocked Intel CPU and an nVIDIA 8800M GTS under the hood, the new iMac" would burst into flames in a few seconds. The case is too small to dissipate that much heat.
- digitalpencil, on 05/10/2008, -0/+2Ok, i've run macs for years and love them but you clearly have no idea what the ***** you're talking about..
Firstly, Sony have been in this game for years and up until recently, were the veritable leaders of the console market. If Apple were to penetrate the console market, it'd be a mean feat. That's not to say it's impossible, Sony did after all take the crown from Nintendo all those years ago with fresh hardware but this is by no means a simple task, especially considering Apple's background.
As for the PC argument.. no chance. Like it or not, DX is King and devs aren't going to adopt OpenGL on good faith alone. When you consider that Apple failed in this game previously in offering OpenGL ports of EA titles (BF2142 etc) it's easy to see why content providers are going to be more than reluctant to play the same game twice.
Thirdly, Apple's hardware is notoriously expensive. Personally, i think you pay for the experience, same way many cars are more expensive than others.. they may not offer any more horses, but you're paying for the ride experience, the design, the aesthetics. Lots of people can't seem to wrap their heads around this, but lots of people drive Volvos (chunky, powerful, yet some how heavy and sluggish)
All in all though, Apple aren't going to break the console market with a cheap alternative.. equally any offering on their behalf isn't goign to be dramatically more expensive. This is after all, a closed market with few competitors and pricing yourself out of the game is dangerous.. a lesson Sony learned with PS3. - MacParrot, on 05/09/2008, -0/+2Ah, sounds like you're a happy Mac user then and you enjoy writing code for it...unless that was your really bad attempt to make a point.
- bokep, on 05/09/2008, -0/+2Ah the 17 year old speaks. Acting all condescending on the internet to make himself feel good and powerful, two things he can't feel in real life.
Cute attempt though. - Aryding, on 05/09/2008, -4/+6OpenGL for the win! Seriously though, this could mean that OpenGL has the chance to once again fiercely compete with Micro$oft's DirectX. While I love my DX10 games, I would rather play them on my linux box, or even a mac. Vista for the suck, go open source!
- Parastie, on 05/09/2008, -0/+2I think there's an important point being missed here. If (and it's a big if) Apple got into gaming, even on a mobile platform it would in no way cater to the hardcore gaming groups. You can forget about Crysis running on your iPhone, we're talking something more along the lines of the DS or Wii. Mass gaming for the Mass Market, hardcore users need not apply.
- Namco, on 05/09/2008, -0/+2Don't hold your breath fanboys. This tune has been played many times before and all you have to show for it is the charity of Blizzard.
- darlyn, on 05/09/2008, -0/+2Idiot.
There, I have contributed a (partially) thoughtless and infantile comment of my own. - inactive, on 05/09/2008, -1/+3you don't understand the meaning of the word do you?
- aznhomig, on 05/09/2008, -0/+2'Cept the PSP can do all those things you mentioned.
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